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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    Yes and I misread what you had originally said that is why I just looked at indifferent.

    And also your calculations also ignored the remain swing to leave.
    That assumes Remain voters will act the same as Leave ones. This isn't necessarily true - it could be argued, for instance, that some remain voters still don't think it's a risk worth taking but are pleased at the patriotism, bravery and anti-establishment values the result has shown, or are simply delighted Cameron's going. This doesn't mean they'd vote Leave next time.

    Just to be clear, my point isn't that a second referendum would see Remain win - I actually expect Leave would win by even more right now. But that doesn't mean people are liars for saying many leave voters may regret their vote at least somewhat and would re-consider now, especially since the poll didn't directly ask this, follows on from incorrect pre-referendum polling, is only one poll, and has no base to work with due to the lack of exit poll or confirmed demographic breakdown after the referendum. They're not lying, it's just a matter of opinion you can argue either way and which we'll never know for sure.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Whereas I've done it at degree level, so I suggest you stop being so rude and presumptive, let everyone have an opinion and quit making a fool of yourself
    Alright you can join my gang but the rest of those guys should still stop! Everbody cant have opinions because they arent statisticians but try to do statistics like wtf? I can do it better than these guys.
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    Over a million Leave voters are unhappy or indifferent with the result? Strange world.
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    (Original post by Shapez)
    Alright you can join my gang but the rest of those guys should still stop! Everbody cant have opinions because they arent statisticians but try to do statistics like wtf? I can do it better than these guys.
    Would it not be more productive to do as I've tried with the OPs post and point out how an analysis of the staistics isn't as simple as it first appears and can be misleading? We live in a society where people are constantly being presented with statistics which inform their opinions and help them make crucial decisions both in their politics and their everyday lives. It's not something we can leave to the experts, it's something the public as a whole needs a much stronger understanding of.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Would it not be more productive to do as I've tried with the OPs post and point out how an analysis of the staistics isn't as simple as it first appears and can be misleading? We live in a society where people are constantly being presented with statistics which inform their opinions and help them make crucial decisions both in their politics and their everyday lives. It's not something we can leave to the experts, it's something the public as a whole needs a much stronger understanding of.
    Whatever lol. I dont care that much. I just want to tell people leave it to the experts like you or me instead of interpreting the stats in their own way which some people have done. Next time people shouldnt make a stats post without tagging you or me
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    (Original post by Shapez)
    You sound like you do statistics but you dont do you? I have done all 3 stats so stfu! Even though I agree it doesnt seem representative stfu!
    Don't tell me to 'stfu'.

    You're agreeing with mine (and others) points anyway so I don't know what your problem is. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you hardly need a high level statistics knowledge to work out that this isn't representative.
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    Over a million Leave voters are unhappy or indifferent with the result? Strange world.
    And 12% of remain voters are happy or indifferent at it.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    We should look at a remain petition to judge leave supporters?
    It's safe to say at least half of the 2 million are leave voters
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    (Original post by Manchester_123)
    It's safe to say at least half of the 2 million are leave voters
    No it is not, most of the people who have signed it are from the places that supported staying especially London.
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    (Original post by Charlotte49)
    Don't tell me to 'stfu'.

    You're agreeing with mine (and others) points anyway so I don't know what your problem is. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and you hardly need a high level statistics knowledge to work out that this isn't representative.
    Ok I guess it was only your opinion. But please dont see stuff like that again without tagging me,
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    (Original post by Shapez)
    Ok I guess it was only your opinion. But please dont see stuff like that again without tagging me,
    Sorry to disappoint but that certainly won't be happening.
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    (Original post by BasicMistake)
    You mean the stock markets which act as an indicator for business confidence and therefore business investment and ultimately employment?

    You mean the value of the pound which dictates how much you will have to pay for foreign goods?

    You mean the credit rating which informs foreign businesses whether or not to invest in the UK and which decides the difficulty in which the UK can borrow money?

    Yep, totally inane b******s.
    The same stock market that is doing perfectly fine?
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    (Original post by Manchester_123)
    It's safe to say at least half of the 2 million are leave voters
    How on earth did you reach that conclusion?
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    (Original post by Charlotte49)
    Sorry to disappoint but that certainly won't be happening.
    Ok but if you ever need help with statistical data or need some maths homework help you can tag me. Just saying
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    (Original post by Shapez)
    Ok but if you ever need help with statistical data or need some maths homework help you can tag me. Just saying
    Thanks for the offer but I'm well beyond the stage of doing homework seeing as I've just about finished my degree and have a fairly sound knowledge of statistics...
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    (Original post by Charlotte49)
    Thanks for the offer but I'm well beyond the stage of doing homework seeing as I've just about finished my degree and have a fairly sound knowledge of statistics...
    O is it a maths degree?
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    (Original post by BasicMistake)
    The health of the economy doesn't apply to you?

    Now I understand why we voted to leave.
    We voted to leave based on a clear fundamental decision about the type of country we want to live in. People were fed up with Brussels making decisions about what we can and can't do; the British public wanted full-control and accountability, rather than an EU-superstate.

    Both sides of the debate used the economy as a tool to bolster their argument, but at its root it was purely fundamental. Even if leaving the EU does have a negative impact on the economy (long term), most people who voted Leave would be happy to take that hit because the fundamental decision was so key to them. In other words, they see it as potentially a minor cost for freedom and control.

    A lot of Remain voters cannot seem to grasp this, and it is an indication of why the Labour Party are out of touch with the working class and hence why they got obliterated in the last election.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    The same stock market that is doing perfectly fine?
    7% on the FTSE250 (a better indicator re the UK than the FTSE100) is not great. If it sticks at that fine, can live with it, but if next week sees small rallies but bigger drops due to the information void then maybe not that healthy.

    The FTSE100 drop is also a tad misleading, having Shell and other international earning companies in there hides the impact on stocks with more UK/EU earnings, Standard Life's drop of 17% say is slightly more scary.

    So whilst the index as a whole may look okay one does need to consider the impact on the individual companies making up (by market cap) that index.
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    People voted on the issues at hand, not on immediate market speculation. Issues of unrestricted borders, questions to our sovereignty and the ever imposing political union with TTIP on the horizon were structural issues that need addressing.

    Remainers are trying to fear monger, intimidate and delude the uninformed into getting cold feet and we all know it is not going to work. It is like the pathetic protest against the tory government or any other adult decision you can't stand. Face it that we don't live in the utopian socialist, trigger-safe, internationalist rainbow world you want to so respect democracy and work with what you've got..
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    (Original post by DJKL)
    7% on the FTSE250 (a better indicator re the UK than the FTSE100) is not great. If it sticks at that fine, can live with it, but if next week sees small rallies but bigger drops due to the information void then maybe not that healthy.

    The FTSE100 drop is also a tad misleading, having Shell and other international earning companies in there hides the impact on stocks with more UK/EU earnings, Standard Life's drop of 17% say is slightly more scary.

    So whilst the index as a whole may look okay one does need to consider the impact on the individual companies making up (by market cap) that index.
    On the whole should be focused on, and on the whole, it is doing fine, don't just focus on the prices of the last few days, zoom out, compare it to a few months ago, it is the same, nothing to worry about at all.
 
 
 
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