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    (Original post by Manchester_123)
    We should raise tuition fees for EU students to international rates as soon as possible. If they want to come here, damn they will pay for it those cheap people
    Cheap people? What a ridiculous statement. A loan is not for free and I'm pretty sure every EU national who's lived here for 5 years (the requirement of SFE at least) or more is aware of repayments as well interest. Most people who chose to study here at uni and get the loans had their parents pay taxes to this country's government.

    Also, How is getting a loan for such a humongous amount of money x3/4 cheap? Many EU countries have their uni education for free. Every EU student could just go study in a country where their degree will not cost them anything, but instead they choose to learn here. Doesn't that say something positive about some British universities?

    Why don't you bash some of the UK students who take out the exact same amounts of loans and then blast them on clubs, drinks, clothes etc. And either end up not graduating or graduate but never bother getting a well paid job to earn those £21k a year to repay the loan? Of course, there are EU students who do the same but why bash them all?

    International students are required to pay a much bigger amount of money as most come from rich families or from families who can afford it all. Although that is still wrong to charge them more since not every person living outside of the EU is sleeping on money. It would be unfair to increase loans simply due to some individuals view.

    A student taking out a loan, whether they are a British citizen or EU national, has absolutely no benefit nor loss to you so I don't see why are you making such a big deal out of people wanting to gain a better level of education for the same amount of money as someone born in this country.
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    (Original post by Manchester_123)
    We should raise tuition fees for EU students to international rates as soon as possible. If they want to come here, damn they will pay for it those cheap people
    You do know EU students don't qualify for the maintenance loan?

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    Tbh I think EU students should be treated as international students just like people from India, Australia, Nigeria and anywhere else outside the EU. Anyway, in answer to the question, even if fee status does change (which I don't think it will), leaving the EU will take at least 2 years, so the very earliest that people could be affected if EU students become intl. students is people joining uni around 2018/19.

    I am an Oxford offer holder and have got 2 emails since Brexit saying how EU students will not be affected and how we need to wait before the UK comes up with a deal with Europe before we know about fee changes
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    If you want to study in our country, you should be willing to pay through the roof for it, and pay upfront. No loans, no access to the lefty NHS, no nothing. We don't want you here.
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    (Original post by katherine9609)
    Cheap people? What a ridiculous statement. A loan is not for free and I'm pretty sure every EU national who's lived here for 5 years (the requirement of SFE at least) or more is aware of repayments as well interest. Most people who chose to study here at uni and get the loans had their parents pay taxes to this country's government.

    Also, How is getting a loan for such a humongous amount of money x3/4 cheap? Many EU countries have their uni education for free. Every EU student could just go study in a country where their degree will not cost them anything, but instead they choose to learn here. Doesn't that say something positive about some British universities?

    Why don't you bash some of the UK students who take out the exact same amounts of loans and then blast them on clubs, drinks, clothes etc. And either end up not graduating or graduate but never bother getting a well paid job to earn those £21k a year to repay the loan? Of course, there are EU students who do the same but why bash them all?

    International students are required to pay a much bigger amount of money as most come from rich families or from families who can afford it all. Although that is still wrong to charge them more since not every person living outside of the EU is sleeping on money. It would be unfair to increase loans simply due to some individuals view.

    A student taking out a loan, whether they are a British citizen or EU national, has absolutely no benefit nor loss to you so I don't see why are you making such a big deal out of people wanting to gain a better level of education for the same amount of money as someone born in this country.
    Loans should not exist for other EU member states and definitely not international students. They should be charged around £50,000+ Every year like many American universities do.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    You do know EU students don't qualify for the maintenance loan?

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    Either way, EU students outside UK should be charged around £50,000 per year with no access to loans, healthcare, student benefits or anything
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    (Original post by Manchester_123)
    Loans should not exist for other EU member states and definitely not international students. They should be charged around £50,000+ Every year like many American universities do.
    Don't compare America and their fees to the UK since you have since no idea about that.

    Not sure if you're aware but American fees are the same for American citizens as well as international students, so your point is pretty invalid. If we go by your mindset then that means UK students should be charged £50k a year as well
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    Hah nice, for which course? Mine is PPE.
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    (Original post by katherine9609)
    Don't compare America and their fees to the UK since you have since no idea about that.

    Not sure if you're aware but American fees are the same for American citizens as well as international students, so your point is pretty invalid. If we go by your mindset then that means UK students should be charged £50k a year as well
    UK students should be charged £9000 per year while outside UK the rate should be £50,000+ per year (with no NHS access or student benefits), simple as that
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    British universities subsidise their costs by overseas fees.
    Suggesting ridiculous fees for overseas students will result in fewer applicants, and closure of courses or higher fees for uk students

    At present eu students have an established deal
    We don't know what the deal will be after brexit. But it won't be retrospective
    U.K. Students also study in Europe
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    (Original post by Manchester_123)
    UK students should be charged £9000 per year while outside UK the rate should be £50,000+ per year (with no NHS access or student benefits), simple as that
    What according to you makes uk students so special to pay so little comparing to international? Being born here doesn't make you special

    Your mentality on this topic is ridiculous. Get researching before you comment on a topic you clearly have no clue about. You also have no legitimate back up info as to why such fees should be imposed and why a human being such be deprived off their health care rights (NHS also has private rates for people who are not entitled to it, but, you wouldn't know that)
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    (Original post by katherine9609)
    Not sure if you're aware but American fees are the same for American citizens as well as international students, so your point is pretty invalid. If we go by your mindset then that means UK students should be charged £50k a year as well
    No, American state universities charge less for in-state students. There are often three categories: in state, out of state, and internationals.
    Example here: http://undergrad.osu.edu/money-matte...-and-fees.html

    Private universities have different politics, and a handful of top elite universities offer need blind admissions for everybody (every student pays and receives the same fees and aid.
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    (Original post by katherine9609)
    Your mentality on this topic is ridiculous. Get researching before you comment on a topic you clearly have no clue about.
    Likewise.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    No, American state universities charge less for in-state students. There are often three categories: in state, out of state, and internationals.
    Example here: http://undergrad.osu.edu/money-matte...-and-fees.html

    Private universities have different politics, and a handful of top elite universities offer need blind admissions for everybody (every student pays and receives the same fees and aid.

    Very few people who choose to study in an American university go to a state uni. That's simply because state unis are seen as mainly for the people who cannot afford a private uni and stay at home to avoid even the additional living costs. As many people know, private American unis are far more desirable by both, international as well as American students so state unis are clearly out of the question here.

    However, what you're forgetting is that many American citizens pay practically the same amount anyway (as shown in the link you kindly posted), as many go to a different state to study at uni. Just like people from here move around the whole of UK and very few stay at home but here you don't pay the almost international rate if you move from eg. Nottingham to London to go to a uni in London. They do.
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    If you want to study in our country, you should be willing to pay through the roof for it, and pay upfront. No loans, no access to the lefty NHS, no nothing. We don't want you here.
    Some Brexiters arent xenophobic, no sireee.
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    I don't think that the EU students have any more right to this than people living anywhere else.

    People living in other countries generally have to pay International fees to go to UK schools. Why should the EU be special? Are people in the EU so much worse off than people living outside the EU that they can't get a loan?

    Besides, in the US, I have to pay the same price as an International student to go to school in a different state. The idea that a discount for attending a school outside of your own country is a human right is a somewhat entitled mentality, I think.

    Unless the EU extends the same courtesy to UK students, I don't see why you should bend over backwards for them. Any such agreement should be mutual.
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    The Uk gains 3,7 billion pounds each year from EU studens alone.
    If it were to raise the tuition fees to 50,000 then I dont think many people would choose it over other European countries that pretty much have no fees but still offer excellent degrees.
    Also UK students would probably have to spend the same amount of money in order to study in Europe.
    So really are you that xenophobic that youd rather your country lose 3,7b per year and some of its best scientists and researchers than allow EU students come to the UK? We are literally bringing money that would have otherwise stayed in our country to yours!!!
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    Only if they still let us be financially treated as home students in their countries, which I doubt. Otherwise no.
 
 
 
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