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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Natural explanations, no matter how unlikely, will always trump supernatural ones because the former can conceivably have happened, whereas the latter could not as no serious and accepted evidence for the supernatural has ever been provided. There's even an institution that offers a million pounds for anyone who can demonstrate supernatural abilities under controlled conditions and after all this time there hasn't been a single claimant.

    Why would we believe ludicrous claims about future events that are 1) completely implausible and 2) violate laws of nature? Do you believe the apocalypse predictions of other religions?
    Read Nostradamus he has had a lot of good predictions
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Natural explanations, no matter how unlikely, will always trump supernatural ones because the former can conceivably have happened, whereas the latter could not as no serious and accepted evidence for the supernatural has ever been provided. There's even an institution that offers a million pounds for anyone who can demonstrate supernatural abilities under controlled conditions and after all this time there hasn't been a single claimant.

    Why would we believe ludicrous claims about future events that are 1) completely implausible and 2) violate laws of nature? Do you believe the apocalypse predictions of other religions?
    How could it have happened? As far as I'm aware scuba diving wasn't around back then and even if it was why would someone go to all that trouble to put all those remains at the bottom of a sea potentially endangering their own lives?

    I understand why you are skeptical, but no, to answer your question, I do not because I know there is only God and one Lord.

    Anyway, trying to convince you is a lost cause. You will see for yourself in the future but by then it will be too late
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    AngryRedhead This is a signal. Be careful
    What are you on about now?
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    How could it have happened? As far as I'm aware scuba diving wasn't around back then and even if it was why would someone go to all that trouble to put all those remains at the bottom of a sea potentially endangering their own lives?

    I understand why you are skeptical, but no, to answer your question, I do not because I know there is only God and one Lord.

    Anyway, trying to convince you is a lost cause. You will see for yourself in the future but by then it will be too late
    Theres no use. Explain something outside of science to atheists is beyond impossible
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    How could it have happened? As far as I'm aware scuba diving wasn't around back then and even if it was why would someone go to all that trouble to put all those remains at the bottom of a sea potentially endangering their own lives?

    I understand why you are skeptical, but no, to answer your question, I do not because I know there is only God and one Lord.

    Anyway, trying to convince you will is a lost cause. You will see for yourself in the future but by then it will be too late
    I'm not an archaeologist, but I'm sure there are plausible, natural explanations such as being thrown into the sea. And not knowing does not make "God did it" a plausible explanation, that's the God of the Gaps fallacy.

    I won't see it in the future because it won't happen. Again, just as you give no credence to other religions I give none to yours.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    I'm not an archaeologist, but I'm sure there are plausible, natural explanations such as being thrown into the sea. And not knowing does not make "God did it" a plausible explanation, that's the God of the Gaps fallacy.

    I won't see it in the future because it won't happen. Again, just as you give no credence to other religions I give none to yours.
    I'm not an archaeologist either but I know no human on earth can throw things that far out and I'm pretty sure they didn't have the technology back then to throw things that far out either, at least not without displaying serious damage which the objects did not.

    You will see it, of this I'm 100% certain.
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    Theres no use. Explain something outside of science to atheists is beyond impossible
    He will find out. Everyone will.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    I'm not an archaeologist either but I know no human on earth can throw things that far out and I'm pretty sure they didn't have the technology back then to throw things that far out either, at least not without displaying serious damage which the objects did not.

    You will see it, of this I'm 100% certain.
    Events that supposedly violate physical laws cannot be proven through ambiguous inferences I'm afraid.

    And I am 100% certain I won't.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Events that supposedly violate physical laws cannot be proven through ambiguous inferences I'm afraid.

    And I am 100% certain I won't.
    That's okay, we will just have to agree to disagree, but do consider yourself warned
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Events that supposedly violate physical laws cannot be proven through ambiguous inferences I'm afraid.

    And I am 100% certain I won't.
    Scientists dont even know how the universe started. The theories are just guesses. Does that mean the universe doesnt exist
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    That's okay, we will just have to agree to disagree, but do consider yourself warned
    Meaningless warning. Just like me warning you of the wrath of Thor's war hammer.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    He will find out. Everyone will.
    No he wont. Science is too inferior for that lol.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Meaningless warning. Just like me warning you of the wrath of Thor's war hammer.
    :laugh:

    Okay then, except I have personal experience of God and I know He exists, unlike Thor
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    Scientists dont even know how the universe started. The theories are just guesses. Does that mean the universe doesnt exist
    The universe in its current form began with an expansion known as the Big Bang. And as already mentioned, not knowing does not mean "God did it" is a plausible explanation. You're not going to prove God indirectly through inferences and on the back of current scientific ignorance. You're going to need to produce direct, testable evidence.
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    (Original post by AngryRedhead)
    :laugh:

    Okay then, except I have personal experience of God and I know He exists, unlike Thor
    Every religious person says they know their god exists. A Norse pagan will say he has a personal experience of Thor and knows your deity isn't real.
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    Title: Jesus (not jesuss) - just thought that was strange.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Every religious person says they know their god exists. A Norse pagan will say he has a personal experience of Thor and knows your deity isn't real.
    How can they when people raised as muslims or christian turn to agnosticism later on in life? I highly doubt these people knew their god personally and had him indwelling inside them
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    The universe in its current form began with an expansion known as the Big Bang. And as already mentioned, not knowing does not mean "God did it" is a plausible explanation. You're not going to prove God indirectly through inferences and on the back of current scientific ignorance. You're going to need to produce direct, testable evidence.
    Thats just a flawed theory which only about half of the scientists believe. Also with your logic, if you cant prove it, it doesnt exist. We cant prove the universe exist. We dont even know what the universe is yet scientists say its expanding etc We need direct testable evidence for that and theres literally no evidence to suggest that there is a universe/ its expanding. Just flawed scientific theories which half of the scientists dont believe in
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    The universe in its current form began with an expansion known as the Big Bang. And as already mentioned, not knowing does not mean "God did it" is a plausible explanation. You're not going to prove God indirectly through inferences and on the back of current scientific ignorance. You're going to need to produce direct, testable evidence.
    Also, how can people like nostradammus predict future. There are many religious texts which predict future. There are many supernatural events which have happened. Just because science cant explain it doesnt mean its not real.
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    (Original post by Inside10)
    Thats just a flawed theory which only about half of the scientists believe. Also with your logic, if you cant prove it, it doesnt exist. We cant prove the universe exist. We dont even know what the universe is yet scientists say its expanding etc We need direct testable evidence for that and theres literally no evidence to suggest that there is a universe/ its expanding. Just flawed scientific theories which half of the scientists dont believe in
    Nonsense. It is the most comprehensive and supported theory out there for the origins of the universe accepted by the majority of scientists.

    What are you on about there being no evidence for the universe? It's all around you! There is plenty of evidence for its expansion, ranging from red shifted galaxies, cosmic background radiation and the black colour of the night sky.
 
 
 
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