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    Bojo (Boris Johnson)
    13
    18.06%
    Theresa May
    25
    34.72%
    Andrea Leadsom
    5
    6.94%
    Priti Patel
    2
    2.78%
    Michael Gove
    8
    11.11%
    Stephen Crabb
    9
    12.50%
    Nicky Morgan
    1
    1.39%
    Someone Else
    9
    12.50%

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    Boris is clueless. We must not make the mistake of conflating our fondness for him with whether he has the ability to be the PM. He has never worked a day in the real world. His only 1 ½ achievements are Boris Bikes and taking the credit for the London Olympics when it should have been accorded to Ken Livingstone and Ken Livingstone alone. His close aide is Gove and the only good/nice thing about Gove is his voice. Gove will go down as the worst Education minister in the history of UK.

    The problem in UK when it comes to politics is that people vote according to party affiliations. If your great grandpa was Labour, so too would your grandpa, your dad and yourself. In the past, politicians did real work for the people. After Thatcher was ousted, several politicians were in it for themselves. As long as they can claim fraudulent expenses, buy multiple homes, send their children to tops UK and US unis, then only are they contented. The welfare of the people is the least of their concern.

    If you have diligently watched the telecasts of the hustings period during the campaign, Boris spoke loads of gibberish (which is normal of him) and the only time he said anything comprehensible was when he said that UK must adopt a migration policy akin to the Australian point based system etc. These were never his points or that of the official designate Leave campaign. All he did was to use what Farage said without citing him as the source.

    Brexit was achieved because of the Leave Campaign headed by Nigel Farage. Boris, Gove and the rest of their clique knows this. But they are far too thick-skinned to even accept it for what it is. They have taken credit for the achievement and textbook writers will be paying homage to them in future editions of law and political textbooks.

    The thing is Cameron, Boris and clique are at the end of the day, still Conservative party members. Even though they have their differences, they will put it aside for the sake of the party's continued tenure in government and also because they cannot allow Labour to get back into power. Corbyn for me is okay. As long as clowns like Milliband, Balls, Yvette Cooper, Harriett Harman are nowhere near the shawdow Cabinet then that's fine with me.

    But what I think will happen is that if Corbyn is ousted and given that Cameron has resigned (although if you watched his speech outside 10 Downing Street on the morning after, you would think he was stepping aside to take another of his many vacations he takes during the course of a year) then another general election may be triggered.

    If there is another general election, the electorate are not stupid and are mindful of
    • the fact that Brexit has been achieved
    • Cameron having resigned but will be at the helm till October when the successor is named at the party's conference
    • Boris and crew are now saying that there is no need to rush to initiate immediate divorce proceedings from EU
    • Boris and crew's attempt of repeatedly conflating access to single market with freedom of movement of people
    • EU top brass having said to the effect that Cameron, Boris and co are wrong about everything they've said about the immediate process that follows after Brexit
    If Boris and crew allows this to happen, UKIP may win the next general election. Lest you forget, UKIP garnered close to 4 million votes in the last general election and you have to bear in mind about the perils of the F.P.T.P system.

    You cannot lie to the people all the time. You will eventually be found out and once you've been found out, you will have to pay the political price. That is how democracy works.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Mogg has backed Gove.
    Johnson, not Gove
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    I would have absolutely loved to have Boris but unfortunately he pulled out of the race. Now I would say Theresa May. Definitely not Gove- he's the one who just ruined Boris' career and back stabbed him.
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    my preference would be andrea leadsom - she is very cool-headed and she's a brexiteer
    theresa may, the cruella deville doubleganger, is part of the older EU-supporting clique - yes she's a woman, so what?
    stephen crabb is just a nobody, and also a part of the remainer elite. and gove is just going to have the "betrayer" label from here on out for preventing the natural successor to cameron from running.

    sadly, may will win because of the gov-johnson division/drama
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    (Original post by EuanF)
    Johnson, not Gove
    Johnson has dropped out
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    (Original post by Audrey18)
    Boris is clueless. We must not make the mistake of conflating our fondness for him with whether he has the ability to be the PM. He has never worked a day in the real world. His only 1 ½ achievements are Boris Bikes and taking the credit for the London Olympics when it should have been accorded to Ken Livingstone and Ken Livingstone alone. His close aide is Gove and the only good/nice thing about Gove is his voice. Gove will go down as the worst Education minister in the history of UK.

    The problem in UK when it comes to politics is that people vote according to party affiliations. If your great grandpa was Labour, so too would your grandpa, your dad and yourself. In the past, politicians did real work for the people. After Thatcher was ousted, several politicians were in it for themselves. As long as they can claim fraudulent expenses, buy multiple homes, send their children to tops UK and US unis, then only are they contented. The welfare of the people is the least of their concern.

    If you have diligently watched the telecasts of the hustings period during the campaign, Boris spoke loads of gibberish (which is normal of him) and the only time he said anything comprehensible was when he said that UK must adopt a migration policy akin to the Australian point based system etc. These were never his points or that of the official designate Leave campaign. All he did was to use what Farage said without citing him as the source.

    Brexit was achieved because of the Leave Campaign headed by Nigel Farage. Boris, Gove and the rest of their clique knows this. But they are far too thick-skinned to even accept it for what it is. They have taken credit for the achievement and textbook writers will be paying homage to them in future editions of law and political textbooks.

    The thing is Cameron, Boris and clique are at the end of the day, still Conservative party members. Even though they have their differences, they will put it aside for the sake of the party's continued tenure in government and also because they cannot allow Labour to get back into power. Corbyn for me is okay. As long as clowns like Milliband, Balls, Yvette Cooper, Harriett Harman are nowhere near the shawdow Cabinet then that's fine with me.

    But what I think will happen is that if Corbyn is ousted and given that Cameron has resigned (although if you watched his speech outside 10 Downing Street on the morning after, you would think he was stepping aside to take another of his many vacations he takes during the course of a year) then another general election may be triggered.

    If there is another general election, the electorate are not stupid and are mindful of
    • the fact that Brexit has been achieved
    • Cameron having resigned but will be at the helm till October when the successor is named at the party's conference
    • Boris and crew are now saying that there is no need to rush to initiate immediate divorce proceedings from EU
    • Boris and crew's attempt of repeatedly conflating access to single market with freedom of movement of people
    • EU top brass having said to the effect that Cameron, Boris and co are wrong about everything they've said about the immediate process that follows after Brexit
    If Boris and crew allows this to happen, UKIP may win the next general election. Lest you forget, UKIP garnered close to 4 million votes in the last general election and you have to bear in mind about the perils of the F.P.T.P system.

    You cannot lie to the people all the time. You will eventually be found out and once you've been found out, you will have to pay the political price. That is how democracy works.
    Very well said 👍
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    (Original post by magicelephant)
    whos portillo
    Was SOS for Defense under Major and Shadow Chancellor under Hague. Won the first and second ballots in the 01 leadership election before losing in the third.by a single vote (Clarke then lost to IDS in the fourth)..
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Was SOS for Defense under Major and Shadow Chancellor under Hague. Won the first and second ballots in the 01 leadership election before losing in the third.by a single vote (Clarke then lost to IDS in the fourth)..
    And the guy that does all the railway travel shows

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    Gove is a backstabber, I don't buy into Crabb. So either May or Leadsom.


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    (Original post by EuanF)
    Johnson, not Gove
    Gove declared for himself when Boris refused to put certain people into his cabinet.

    Mogg and Rabb were obviously on board only because of the credibility he brought, they are now with Gove.

    Boris dropped out when he realised that Gove may well be popular among MP's.
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    None of the above.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Gove declared for himself when Boris refused to put certain people into his cabinet.

    Mogg and Rabb were obviously on board only because of the credibility he brought, they are now with Gove.

    Boris dropped out when he realised that Gove may well be popular among MP's.
    Toby Young also endorsing Gove

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    (Original post by WaywardWriter)
    Gove is a backstabber, I don't buy into Crabb. So either May or Leadsom.
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    Definitely not Theresa May. She has been just about useless as the Home Minister. Leadsom is good cos she always speaks in a measured tone and always has a ready answer for everything which is sensible and backed up by facts. Theresa is clueless. She was a geography graduate. If she went out to the real world, no one would give her a job. Her biggest screw up has to be the handling of the Abu Qatada case which cost the ever obliging British taxpayer £1.7 million which spanned close to 10 years.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22909465

    If only Leadsom was as eloquent as Suzanne Evans, I would be cheering in her corner to be the next PM. If only

 
 
 
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