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    The one thing Corbyn seems to be able to do is inspire people to join the Labour Party. (Maybe his plans for us are popular. Look at his web pages.)

    Over 100,000 in the last few days. Sounds like excellent leadership to me. I can't think of any other political leader in the UK that has had such success.

    It isn't very sensible for Labour MPs to ignore the views of the majority Labour Party members- old, new, trade unions - he won overwhelmingly in all categories. The next time round he'll probably win by an even bigger margin.

    After all the MPs need the support of their local constituency members. Without it they are nowhere - no one to deliver leaflets, possibly deselected. I wouldn't give Angela Eagle much chance of being the next MP for Wallasey with 90% of her constituency party voting against her.

    The MPs contempt for the democratic process - the membership vote for Corbyn- is very dangerous. In a country which already has a low opinion of MPs in general. this only lowers them further in people's esteem.
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    (Original post by pickup)
    The one thing Corbyn seems to be able to do is inspire people to join the Labour Party. (Maybe his plans for us are popular. Look at his web pages.)

    Over 100,000 in the last few days. Sounds like excellent leadership to me.
    Sounds like entryism to me.

    The problem that Labour have is that the membership do not well represent the electorate - so they will vote someone in who represents them rather than thinking ahead and voting in someone who can actually appeal to people who aren't far-left, middle class students.

    Good luck winning back votes in the North and the Midalnds with Corbyn, it isn't going to happen.
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    (Original post by pickup)
    The one thing Corbyn seems to be able to do is inspire people to join the Labour Party. (Maybe his plans for us are popular. Look at his web pages.)

    Over 100,000 in the last few days. Sounds like excellent leadership to me. I can't think of any other political leader in the UK that has had such success.

    It isn't very sensible for Labour MPs to ignore the views of the majority Labour Party members- old, new, trade unions - he won overwhelmingly in all categories. The next time round he'll probably win by an even bigger margin.

    After all the MPs need the support of their local constituency members. Without it they are nowhere - no one to deliver leaflets, possibly deselected. I wouldn't give Angela Eagle much chance of being the next MP for Wallasey with 90% of her constituency party voting against her.

    The MPs contempt for the democratic process - the membership vote for Corbyn- is very dangerous. In a country which already has a low opinion of MPs in general. this only lowers them further in people's esteem.
    It's entryism, how many are going to be tories and Kippers wanting Corbyn to stay to benefit their own parties?

    Labour's constitution allows entryism so it will happen

    It's also worth noting their constituents aren't just their CLP, which will likely only be about 0.5% of their constituents (on average across all constituencies, likely no more than about 1pc where the MPs are, and not even all of those will be Corbynistas

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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    It'll get savaged. The traitor that gets in won't be able to win the respect of the party or the country.
    If the Tories call an election this year then your certainly screwed either way, if its 2020 then there's enough time for the war to end although you need a better frontman than Eagle.
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    (Original post by pickup)
    The one thing Corbyn seems to be able to do is inspire people to join the Labour Party. (Maybe his plans for us are popular. Look at his web pages.)

    Over 100,000 in the last few days. Sounds like excellent leadership to me. I can't think of any other political leader in the UK that has had such success.

    It isn't very sensible for Labour MPs to ignore the views of the majority Labour Party members- old, new, trade unions - he won overwhelmingly in all categories. The next time round he'll probably win by an even bigger margin.

    After all the MPs need the support of their local constituency members. Without it they are nowhere - no one to deliver leaflets, possibly deselected. I wouldn't give Angela Eagle much chance of being the next MP for Wallasey with 90% of her constituency party voting against her.

    The MPs contempt for the democratic process - the membership vote for Corbyn- is very dangerous. In a country which already has a low opinion of MPs in general. this only lowers them further in people's esteem.
    It's widely accepted that Momentum are going round and getting Greens, Tusc and Socialist Worker members to join in addition to campaigning heavily in London to get more people in. These people are not remotely representative of the electorate at large.

    In a FPTP system it's no good having 5 million voters that will worship you if the million or so that matter in the marginals think that a Republican who can't be trusted with the union is a fruitcake.
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    Summed up perfectly above, the size of Labour's membership is irrelevant.

    Being the focal point for a coalition of fringe groups doesn't make someone appealing to the wider electorate, in fact it's more likely to have the opposite effect.
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    (Original post by james813)
    You're favourite response to anyone who disagreed with you was they only read the Daily Mail and are now saying you dislike Corbyn - either because you hate social equality or believe media headlines.
    Don't think I quite said it like that. I object with quite a lot of stuff that's said on the Socialist worker/ morning star too.

    I dislike Corbyn because his links to people like George Galloway, Milne et al plus appearances on RT make him seem like a regressive leftist as are his sympathies with groups like Hamas and his slightly warped views on certain issues mean he's either incredibly naive or he's genuinely unpleasant.

    I also think he's not all as principled as he's cracked up to be- his new kind of politics seems to include bullying and the hiring of disgraced spin doctor after 'kinder, gentler politics' speech..,

    He also doesn't have the support of the majority of his MPs which is kinda essential

    Genuinely can't see him being prime minister and I dontvthonknhe can either. You need to be on power otherwise what's the point?

    I think he's genuinely incompetent. I say this as somebody who think McDonnell has overall done an excellent job.

    I think some of the ridiculous criticisms of him ie the whole Bowing thing are ridiculous but perhaps employed by Murdoch to shore up support for a leader they know will keep the Tories in power.
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    There are unpleasant people within all political parties. Corbyn doesn't support Hamas, but he realises you need to bring together different parties to achieve peace. If Labour MPs are no longer serving labour policy and members, they shouldn't really be there as labour MPs. The media is trying to make him sound uncredible, just like they tried to make the Iraq war sound common sense. But point taken.
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    (Original post by james813)
    There are unpleasant people within all political parties. Corbyn doesn't support Hamas, but he realises you need to bring together different parties to achieve peace. If Labour MPs are no longer serving labour policy and members, they shouldn't really be there as labour MPs. The media is trying to make him sound uncredible, just like they tried to make the Iraq war sound common sense. But point taken.
    The media certainly paint some politicians a lot worse than they actually are.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    If the Labour Party become united once again, will you be voting for them in the next GE?

    You need to add a probably option! That's what I would have picked.
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    (Original post by pickup)
    The one thing Corbyn seems to be able to do is inspire people to join the Labour Party. (Maybe his plans for us are popular. Look at his web pages.)

    Over 100,000 in the last few days. Sounds like excellent leadership to me. I can't think of any other political leader in the UK that has had such success.

    It isn't very sensible for Labour MPs to ignore the views of the majority Labour Party members- old, new, trade unions - he won overwhelmingly in all categories. The next time round he'll probably win by an even bigger margin.

    After all the MPs need the support of their local constituency members. Without it they are nowhere - no one to deliver leaflets, possibly deselected. I wouldn't give Angela Eagle much chance of being the next MP for Wallasey with 90% of her constituency party voting against her.

    The MPs contempt for the democratic process - the membership vote for Corbyn- is very dangerous. In a country which already has a low opinion of MPs in general. this only lowers them further in people's esteem.
    'Leading' like-minded basket cases Pied Piper-esque to part with a few quid to re-endorse him being the head honcho of a presently unelectable Labour Party is not really 'leadership' at all.

    Besides, who is able to say that all of the ~100k new members are actually his followers and does not include a few saboteurs who will benefit from the Labour Party staying in turmoil.
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    I will only vote Labour if Jeremy Corbyn remains leader and kicks out these traitors. Eagles is a disgrace and all them who back her.
    A party is only as strong as it's members, these back stabbers need to remember who they are representing.
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    (Original post by SMY03)
    I will only vote Labour if Jeremy Corbyn remains leader and kicks out these traitors. Eagles is a disgrace and all them who back her.
    A party is only as strong as it's members, these back stabbers need to remember who they are representing.
    Yeah, about a hundred thousand people who aren't party members each and who the members are out of touch with

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    (Original post by SMY03)
    I will only vote Labour if Jeremy Corbyn remains leader and kicks out these traitors. Eagles is a disgrace and all them who back her.
    A party is only as strong as it's members, these back stabbers need to remember who they are representing.
    Eagle wouldn't be a good leader, agreed.
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    (Original post by viffer)
    'Leading' like-minded basket cases Pied Piper-esque to part with a few quid to re-endorse him being the head honcho of a presently unelectable Labour Party is not really 'leadership' at all.

    Besides, who is able to say that all of the ~100k new members are actually his followers and does not include a few saboteurs who will benefit from the Labour Party staying in turmoil.
    Perhaps Corbyn is a brainwasher.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Eagle wouldn't be a good leader, agreed.
    Corbyn would not be a good leader either. He leads protests well but he can't lead a party to win a general election and he can't run a country. It's so funny Labour can't seem to get a leader which appears to be a normal person... perhaps there are none.
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    (Original post by Karosan)
    Corbyn would not be a good leader either. He leads protests well but he can't lead a party to win a general election and he can't run a country. It's so funny Labour can't seem to get a leader which appears to be a normal person... perhaps there are none.
    I have to agree. Normally I'd support the leader but I just don't believe he has what it takes to succeed in 2020. My personal choice for leader would be Jarvis but I just don't think he will become leader.
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    Until the political system changes, or a more liberal party that suits my views comes into the spotlight (i.e. like UKIP did last year), I'll vote for Labour.
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    (Original post by Craig1998)
    Until the political system changes, or a more liberal party that suits my views comes into the spotlight (i.e. like UKIP did last year), I'll vote for Labour.
    It's kind of a shame the Lib Dems are so insignificant at the moment but I would agree, Labour are probably the most liberal option at the moment.
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    If Corbyn remains as leader, I will vote for Labour.Otherwise I'll flip a coin between Green and UKIP.
 
 
 
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