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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    I'm from England. I assume you are also.

    The Church of England is at an all time low membership. It can hardly be said to be the official religion. How can any religion be said to be a state religion when half the country doesn't follow any religion at all?
    Because it is established in law?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because it is established in law?

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    I appear to be unaware of a law which sets down a specific sect of Christianity as the state religion. Please enlighten me, so I can write a repeal for it.
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    Absolutely useless
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    I appear to be unaware of a law which sets down a specific sect of Christianity as the state religion. Please enlighten me, so I can write a repeal for it.
    There have been at least two attempts in the last 6 months yo disestablish, both failed

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    There have been at least two attempts in the last 6 months yo disestablish, both failed

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    I see you're conveniently avoiding saying exactly which law sets it down.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I don't know where you're from, but I do, and every time both IRL and in this era the left has tried to disestablish the CoE they failed.
    On a point of fact, England has an established church, not the UK.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    I see you're conveniently avoiding saying exactly which law sets it down.
    Do you expect me to know every act of parliament off the top of my head, regardless, you don't actually need to explicitly repeal it.

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    On a point of fact, England has an established church, not the UK.
    As I said, I have an established church where I am

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Do you expect me to know every act of parliament off the top of my head

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    I expect you to know the Acts you refer to, at least by name.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    As I said, I have an established church where I am
    And I will leave it to you to establish when exactly England became a state again, last seen circa 1707.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    I expect you to know the Acts you refer to, at least by name.
    I know murder is illegal but cannot cite any of the acts, let alone the most recent one, even without the year.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I know murder is illegal but cannot cite any of the acts, let alone the most recent one, even without the year.

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    Murder's a common law offence.
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    Needs to be made flexible for other languages and faiths. I can only support once this is acknowledged.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Murder's a common law offence.
    I imagine it is also explicitly stated in written law. Or how about stuff I know for certain is codified: maternity leave, I do not know which 1992 EU directive relates to it, nor the UK Acts other than one being early 1992 and another 1998

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I imagine it is also explicitly stated in written law. Or how about stuff I know for certain is codified: maternity leave, I do not know which 1992 EU directive relates to it, nor the UK Acts other than one being early 1992 and another 1998

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    You're getting off the point. I can't find a single Act which states that Christianity or Anglicanism is the state religion.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    You're getting off the point. I can't find a single Act which states that Christianity or Anglicanism is the state religion.
    You're not the only one to have been told legislation exists but can't find it, at least I didn't say it would be easy to find

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Actually the only MPs who don't do it are the Sinn Fein ones

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    And that's why I'm saying Nay.
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    Nay, utterly ****ing pointless, which is a surprise for the members who claim to dislike legislation for legislation's sake.
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    Nope.

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    I'll vote for this with one of two minor adjustments.

    First is that we are allowed to echo the words of Tony Benn and say before the oath or affirmation "As a committed republican, under protest, I take the oath required of me by law"

    Second is if we are allowed to post before the oath of affirmation that we are crossing our fingers while saying it, such as Tony Banks use to

    I don' feel these are unreasonable
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    I'll vote for this with one of two minor adjustments.

    First is that we are allowed to echo the words of Tony Benn and say before the oath or affirmation "As a committed republican, under protest, I take the oath required of me by law"

    Second is if we are allowed to post before the oath of affirmation that we are crossing our fingers while saying it, such as Tony Banks use to

    I don' feel these are unreasonable
    Except they are

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