(Original post by Bornblue)
I'm not saying every poor person is lured to extremism and you know I'm not.
I'm saying poverty can be and is a factor in pushing people towards extremism.*
It's simply absurd to claim that there is no link between poverty and people being lured to extremist groups.
*The Muslim community in this country is poorer than any other ethnic or religious community.*
When you have people growing up in poverty, with no opportunities and a crappy life, the lure of these cults becomes far greater. That goes for the far right and the young Muslims who join Isis.*
We have to look at all factors for extremism and there seems to be an agenda to prevent is discussing an economic system creating inequality, poverty and desparation.*
I didn't say that poverty wasn't a contributory factor, I think it is for some Islamists (but clearly not all).
Where we differ is our estimation of its importance.
This is about so much more than poverty. (And for many Islamists it isn't about poverty at all). It is about alienation, about identity, a rejection of materialism, a desire for meaning and a life after death, about feeling lost between two cultures, about personal inadequacy, about a desire to be somebody, to exercise power and not be powerless, all kinds of stuff.
And QE2 is right, at its root is something within Islamic thought and culture, itself. As an ex Muslim herself she understands this in a way we can't appreciate.
For her to be wrong you have to explain why this is not affecting Jews or Buddhists or Hindus, or Sikhs in the same way. They aren't all rich, and in some parts of the world some of them are very poor indeed. Yet we don't talk about the Hindu Spring, or the Buddhist "Resurgence."
This is a phenomenon affecting this generation of Muslims.
As she says we have to confront this inconvenient truth as a society. This inability to call this for what it is makes everything ten times worse...