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    (Original post by PQ)
    Because OP stated " I just want to go to a university where I'm not one of the only Africans "

    So listing % of BME isn't going top answer that question - there's a lot of universities where the proportion of BME students is high but they have very low numbers of black students.
    But she geared towards it being ethnically diverse didn't she?
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    (Original post by ludd-sama)
    Again, you have some warped view, that the world is made up of white and non-white. An area filled with Pakistani people is just as "non-diverse" as an area filled with white people or an area filled with African people or an area filled with Carribean people.
    You really need to just wake up and take another look at the world. People like you are a huge part of the problem.
    I'm not talking about the world. I'm talking about the UK.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    because if we were talking about an institution where most people were non-white, to ask for "diversity" would be seen as either racist or somehow not needed. because diversity is only needed when white people are there - if non-white people are there, then the necessity for diversity conveniently fades away. for instance, if you went into a predominantly pakistani area of the UK and all the schools were filled with pakistani children, do you *really* think it would be PC to ask for diversity (i.e. including white kids)? I didn't think so. and I'm not embarrassed in the slightest - thanks for your false consideration though, I'm ever so appreciative
    You're continuing to be totally non-constructive and causing conflict for no reason. Diversity within a university is a thing to celebrate and by condemning it, you're the one who is coming across as a racist.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    so you're discriminating against universities not on the grounds of quality/prestige and standards, but on the grounds of the skin colours of their students? and who said racism was dead? you're reviving it singlehandedly apparently - very ambitious
    Such an immature response. So does that mean that if I choose to only date white guys, I am immediately a racist because I do not wish to date asians/blacks? It all comes to preferences and what people feel comfortable with.
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    (Original post by theBranicAc)
    1st of all I don't think he discriminating against universities solely on how diverse they are, otherwise that would be pretty stupid. Also I don't see how it is racist, it's not like hes saying he doesn't want to go to a uni where there many white people, he simply wants to go to one where there is a diverse ethnic group, so he doesn't receive racism!


    Well that is racist, not because its a white person saying it, but because your discriminating against another race. However, what your saying s completely different to what he's saying, he simply wants to go to a diverse uni.

    Also how can you blame him for factoring in diversity? Would you want to go to a place, where your the only black/white person there, so you feel left out?
    lol if I was white in a predominantly non-white country and I asked to go to a "diverse" university where, de facto, there were more white people, I'd call you naive for thinking that I didn't have a racialist preference as opposed to a "diversity" one
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    Such an immature response. So does that mean that if I choose to only date white guys, I am immediately a racist because I do not wish to date asians/blacks? It all comes to preferences and what people feel comfortable with.
    define racism
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    (Original post by PQ)
    Because OP stated " I just want to go to a university where I'm not one of the only Africans "

    So listing % of BME isn't going top answer that question - there's a lot of universities where the proportion of BME students is high but they have very low numbers of black students.

    But for the record

    Top 20 BME %
    1 The University of Buckingham (77%)
    2 The School of Pharmacy(#7) (76%)
    3 The University of East London (63%)
    4 Queen Mary and Westfield College(#7) (62%)
    5 Brunel University (60%)
    6 The City University (59%)
    7 London South Bank University (57%)
    8 Aston University (55%)
    9 London Metropolitan University (55%)
    10 Middlesex University (55%)
    11 The University of Westminster (54%)
    12 The University of Bradford (54%)
    13 St George's Hospital Medical School(#7) (53%)
    14 Kingston University (52%)
    15 Thames Valley University (51%)
    16 The School of Oriental and African Studies(#7) (50%)
    17 London Business School(#7) (48%)
    18 The University of Greenwich (47%)
    19 University of Hertfordshire (45%)
    20 Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine (44%)
    I'm really surprised UCL isn't on this :/. Is this just undergrads, or is it all students?


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    UCL is the most international [and diverse] and prestigious outside of Oxbridge
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    define racism
    Define stupidity
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    (Original post by Vivi11)
    Define stupidity
    by this logic, if I'm stupid, then they're racist.
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    (Original post by GradeA*UnderA)
    I'm really surprised UCL isn't on this :/. Is this just undergrads, or is it all students?


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    All HE students (but only UK domiciled - so excludes international students)

    BME %
    27 University College London(#7) (37%)

    Black %
    68 UCL (4%)
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    (Original post by tanyapotter)
    You're continuing to be totally non-constructive and causing conflict for no reason. Diversity within a university is a thing to celebrate and by condemning it, you're the one who is coming across as a racist.
    why is race even important to you that you have to drum up this whole "diversity" thing? what about simply racial neutrality where it's not even a consideration? that's the philosophy I wish was more prevalent - it's so much less two-faced
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    by this logic, if I'm stupid, then they're racist.
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    by all your previous assumptions you made about 'diversity' if anyone is racist it's YOU
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    (Original post by theBranicAc)
    by all your previous assumptions you made about 'diversity' if anyone is racist it's YOU
    how the **** do you figure that?
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    did it really *need* to be mentioned in order to make the obvious assumption? seriously?



    err, what country do we live in, again?
    see, this is where you're making it clear that ideology trumps reality to you. you're willing to ignore the facts.



    I'm sorry (well not really) but if I said "hey guys I want to go to a uni where there are fewer *insert race here* - where can I find it? it's my sole criterion for selecting a uni" then you'd call me a racist. in their case, they said "I want 'racial diversity'" but do you think that means more or less white people?



    no, they want less white people. come off it. we all know what "diversity" means. also, I thought we should judge people by race any more? not since the wisdom of MLK
    are for the record, they wanted "racial diversity" - where are you pulling this "cultural" diversity from? culture =/= race
    You're entire argument hinges on the assumption that OP has an issue with white people, when it was never stated nor alluded to, which immediately makes your argument meaningless.

    Again your idea of facts is just an assumption from a paranoid white person. You believe that all "non-white" white people are united in their hatred for white people. When unsurprisingly this is not the case. In actual fact, racism exists between and against all races.

    Yet another assumption. Diversity doesn't need to be reached by "less white people", it can be reached just as well through adding more people of different ethnicities.

    Everything you say just screams paranoia, and all your toxic assumptions are a consequence of that, There really is no point continuing this conversation, because I'm not going to change your mindset, that's something you're gonna have to live with. I really hope the best for you, and my advice is to keep your racist paranoia to yourself.
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    (Original post by ludd-sama)
    You're entire argument hinges on the assumption that OP has an issue with white people, when it was never stated nor alluded to, which immediately makes your argument meaningless.

    Again your idea of facts is just an assumption from a paranoid white person. You believe that all "non-white" white people are united in their hatred for white people. When unsurprisingly this is not the case. In actual fact, racism exists between and against all races.

    Yet another assumption. Diversity doesn't need to be reached by "less white people", it can be reached just as well through adding more people of different ethnicities.

    Everything you say just screams paranoia, and all your toxic assumptions are a consequence of that, There really is no point continuing this conversation, because I'm not going to change your mindset, that's something you're gonna have to live with. I really hope the best for you, and my advice is to keep your racist paranoia to yourself.
    Very very well said.
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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
    how the **** do you figure that?
    look below and you'll seen an explanation
    you just have racist thoughts in your mind for some reason...hmm maybe because your racist

    (Original post by ludd-sama)
    You're entire argument hinges on the assumption that OP has an issue with white people, when it was never stated nor alluded to, which immediately makes your argument meaningless.

    Again your idea of facts is just an assumption from a paranoid white person. You believe that all "non-white" white people are united in their hatred for white people. When unsurprisingly this is not the case. In actual fact, racism exists between and against all races.

    Yet another assumption. Diversity doesn't need to be reached by "less white people", it can be reached just as well through adding more people of different ethnicities.

    Everything you say just screams paranoia, and all your toxic assumptions are a consequence of that, There really is no point continuing this conversation, because I'm not going to change your mindset, that's something you're gonna have to live with. I really hope the best for you, and my advice is to keep your racist paranoia to yourself.
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    (Original post by ludd-sama)
    You're entire argument hinges on the assumption that OP has an issue with white people, when it was never stated nor alluded to, which immediately makes your argument meaningless.

    Again your idea of facts is just an assumption from a paranoid white person. You believe that all "non-white" white people are united in their hatred for white people. When unsurprisingly this is not the case. In actual fact, racism exists between and against all races.
    it's rich that you have the nerve to call me racist when you know perfectly well that you and most people here would *assume* (not via paranoia, apparently) that if I said something encouraging, let's say, white pride (I'm not particularly proud one way or another of my race), then I would be a racist. if you're honestly going to argue with me that people don't find white pride racist then I'm not taking you seriously whatsoever

    Yet another assumption. Diversity doesn't need to be reached by "less white people", it can be reached just as well through adding more people of different ethnicities.
    we live in a white country though...? why exactly do you think I'm using "white" as a binary to "diverse"?

    Everything you say just screams paranoia, and all your toxic assumptions are a consequence of that, There really is no point continuing this conversation, because I'm not going to change your mindset, that's something you're gonna have to live with. I really hope the best for you, and my advice is to keep your racist paranoia to yourself.
    nope - been over this with you previously.
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    (Original post by theBranicAc)
    look below and you'll seen an explanation
    you just have racist thoughts in your mind for some reason...hmm maybe because your racist
    you can't even give me an original answer? I pity your creativity and intellect.
    I've already answered your quoted user too.
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    Interestingly UCAS released a survey this week that showed the wealthiest applicants are more worried about going to university with people like them:
    "However, advantaged applicants were 18 per cent more likely to agree that fitting in was an important thing to consider when applying to university."
    https://www.ucas.com/sites/default/f...f-students.pdf
 
 
 
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