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    Oxford teaches lots of international relations to undergraduates, but does not think it worth devorting an entire undergraduate degree to. Instead, it is something ot specialise in at Master's level - Oxford does indeed offer a very well regarded MPhil in IR. This is the contrary to what you are arguing about Oxbridge initiating and perpetuating the specialisation of British education.

    (Original post by shady lane)
    I just don't understand why the fact that Oxbridge think a certain course is high quality means that other courses that it doesn't offer are not.
    Where on earth are you getting this from? By no means does 'Oxbridge' pass any sort of judgment on the quality of academic subjects that it doesn't offer. You seem to be making a much bigger deal out of this than it actually is.

    I just think it's interesting that the ethos of British higher education, thanks to the influence of Oxbridge, is to specialize as early as possible. Yet one should "just do film modules as part of English." Why should they do that instead of a proper film studies degree?
    You are completely over-estimating the influence of 'Oxbridge' on British education. Specialisation has nothing to do with Oxbridge, it is just something which has always happened from A levels onwards. As you say, loads of universities offer huge numbers of courses. Why should Oxbridge be under an obligation to offer some course, just because other universities offer it? If you want to do a film studies degree, go to a university which offers it. I don't see what the problem is.
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    Did you not read my last sentence...?
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    Specialisation is something specific to the UK education system and at odds with that of America. UK students (mostly) take few A levels in defined subjects, American students take more subjects as AP level and others, UK students take more specialised undergraduate degrees, American students can take degrees as broad as Liberal Arts.

    It's not an Oxbridge thing, it's endemic of the UK education system as a whole, and to a degree the job market has come to reflect this, as whereas the American job market is more or less broadly split between, went to college/didn't go to college, in the UK a greater percentage of jobs are dependant upon the type or indeed 'specialism' of the degree taken.

    And with regards to International Relations, the Oxford website states that it feels it can be sufficiently covered via the correct selection of options in the PPE degree.
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    (Original post by city_chic)
    I'm rather annoyed that neither Oxford nor Cambridge offers English Language, as I want to do this along with French, and not being over-confident but I think I would have quite a good chance of getting in. People are always telling me I should apply there, but I'm like 'well they don't offer the course I want...'
    You think you'll have a good chance of getting in, and you didn't even know what linguistics was until 2 days ago.

    Hmm.
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    I just was questioning the poster who said there are fewer joint honors because they don't meet the academic standards of Oxbridge or whatever. I don't think that's the reason. Some things came together (e.g. SPS) and some didn't (e.g. French and English). It's down to tradition what is done and what isn't, not a grander notion of academic quality.
    SPS is widely acknolwedged as a mischievous, easy tripos subject for silly sausages, evidenced by such little peculiarities as SPS students doing far worse on balance than History students when they take papers ffrom the History faculty (namely any of the three political thought papers). What is your point?
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    You think you'll have a good chance of getting in, and you didn't even know what linguistics was until 2 days ago.
    Blame school for calling the corresponding A-level subject 'English Language' instead of 'Linguistics'...
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    (Original post by Niccolo)
    You think you'll have a good chance of getting in, and you didn't even know what linguistics was until 2 days ago.

    Hmm.
    Really, was there any need for that..?

    I just thought that seeing as the A-level is named 'English Language,' uni degrees would go by the same name, as a lot indeed do.
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    (Original post by city_chic)
    Really, was there any need for that..?

    I just thought that seeing as the A-level is named 'English Language,' uni degrees would go by the same name, as a lot indeed do.
    Oxbridge candidates don't just think. They also know.
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    (Original post by Niccolo)
    SPS is widely acknolwedged as a mischievous, easy tripos subject for silly sausages, evidenced by such little peculiarities as SPS students doing far worse on balance than History students when they take papers ffrom the History faculty (namely any of the three political thought papers). What is your point?
    I'm not even gonna touch that one! Don't need the wrath of SPS students raining on my head.
 
 
 

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