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    Lots of men want women to ask them out, but most of them are nerdy virginal men and most women don't have the aggressive personality for it.

    Contrast the amount of guys who work in sales compared with HR.
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    I asked a guy out once, we knew each other quite well by then though. If he was still a stranger or a distant acquaintance then I might have been too nervous.

    Some girls are worried about looking "desperate". Society does teach that desperate women are unattractive, after all.
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    (Original post by Brahmin of Booty)
    Lots of men want women to ask them out, but most of them are nerdy virginal men and most women don't have the aggressive personality for it.

    Contrast the amount of guys who work in sales compared with HR.
    What's your point? Been watching too much Mad Men? Not everyone is a salesman. Being a salesman imo requires an extrovert personality / a certain person. Not everyone is a salesman in the same way not everyone can be a successful musician.

    Also what's the beef with HR? Actually HR also is a job which requires very good communication skills too. It just so happens it's seen traditionally as a female job. Your way of thinking is why we have a problem with employment in schools and young boys have a lack of male role models

    The whole "not man enough" argument and too nerdy BS is simplified ******** imo.

    If a guy is nerdy then they should own and embrace that ****. Don't pretend to be someone else. Be an unashamed nerd.

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    (Original post by sleepysnooze)
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    if it's oppressive to expect women to wash the dishes and stay at home, as some believe, why isn't it oppressive to expect men to pay on dates and do all the initiating for the woman? doesn't this seem hypocritical? "I want the guy to ask me instead because I'm too scared" - what about "I want the woman to stay at home and do all the chores because I'm too lazy"?
    I totally agree with your argument. Cleaning being associated with women is being challenged, and so should interaction between the sexes one when displays a certain level of interest.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    I asked a guy out once, we knew each other quite well by then though. If he was still a stranger or a distant acquaintance then I might have been too nervous.

    Some girls are worried about looking "desperate". Society does teach that desperate women are unattractive, after all.
    Well done on doing that! Don't you think perhaps it would've been easier and perhaps less awkward if it was a stranger, because you'd never have to see them again if they said no?
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    (Original post by Brahmin of Booty)
    Lots of men want women to ask them out, but most of them are nerdy virginal men and most women don't have the aggressive personality for it.

    Contrast the amount of guys who work in sales compared with HR.
    So you believe the men who want women to ask them out are shy and reserved, and those who approach women to ask them out are manly?

    Interesting view there. :curious:
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    (Original post by AndrewSCO)
    I would rather the girl asked me out so then I wouldn't need to :laugh:

    2 girls have asked me out before, and I've asked out 5 girls
    How well did you know the girls? Were you strangers - acquaintances - friends?
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    Absolutely, but I don't think it should come down to one person to initiate it all.

    I think my ex and I hit a perfect balance when it comes to this, at least I think so. She messaged me saying that she liked me and that she became quite close to me after we knew each other for half a year and skyped a lot during the summer; then the following day I asked her out. The way I see, this involves equal risk from both parties. The first initiates but doesn't invoke a "rejection" phase where it's all or nothing, it's much easier to tell a person that you like them rather than go all out on a "wanna go out?" type of comment (this would be more of a leading question that would get a biased result, in a way). While the second party either builds much more confidence to ask them out or can easily reject them without hurting their feelings too much. The only issue I can see with this is that messages may be misinterpreted when a relationship is not intended.

    This also helps determine if the other party genuinely wants a relationship with you because you hear it from them about it as opposed to blatantly asking them out and if they say yes it doesn't necessarily mean they would really want it. I would be much more relaxed about it if I'd be shown interest from the other person, knowing that they are prepared to put the effort into it as opposed to initiating everything myself.
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    (Original post by thecatwithnohat)
    So you believe the men who want women to ask them out are shy and reserved, and those who approach women to ask them out are manly?

    Interesting view there. :curious:
    I don't think there is anything wrong with women who ask men, but it seems almost self referential to point out that men who lack confidence, are less manly than those who are confident enough to ask the girl.
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    (Original post by jblackmoustache)
    What's your point? Been watching too much Mad Men? Not everyone is a salesman. Being a salesman imo requires an extrovert personality / a certain person. Not everyone is a salesman in the same way not everyone can be a successful musician.

    Also what's the beef with HR? Actually HR also is a job which requires very good communication skills too. It just so happens it's seen traditionally as a female job. Your way of thinking is why we have a problem with employment in schools and young boys have a lack of male role models

    The whole "not man enough" argument and too nerdy BS is simplified ******** imo.

    If a guy is nerdy then they should own and embrace that ****. Don't pretend to be someone else. Be an unashamed nerd.

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    Never seen mad men and I don't know what it is.


    HR appeals to women more than men because it's basically being paid to gossip, sales appeals to men because it requires aggression, pushiness and a completely unshakable ego.
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    (Original post by thecatwithnohat)
    How well did you know the girls? Were you strangers - acquaintances - friends?
    Don't know if you mean just the girls who asked or all but I'll do them all anyway.

    2 girls who asked, one was quite a while ago, I spoke to her friend and she was sometimes just there so spoke to her a little too but not really much in it, second girl I was good friends with, we spoke all the time.

    Girls I asked, 2 were quite a long time ago, at same school, same group of friends, just started speaking to them regularly and went to athletics with one. One later on was a girl in my next friendship group, had started texting a fair bit, but not all day kinda thing.I just realised there's 6 I've asked out, next was my best friend, spent all day everyday together basically at uni, next was a random girl I'd just started speaking to and next was my current gf who I met at a party and started chatting to
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    Sure. I asked a guy out recently but turned out he has a girlfriend, so we just went out as friends. Planning on asking a guy out who works at my gym soon. Obviously nobody likes rejection, but don't see why it should always fall on the guy to ask.
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    I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but I personally wouldn't ask a boy out as I'm just too nervous 😊
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    (Original post by Brahmin of Booty)


    HR appeals to women more than men because it's basically being paid to gossip,.
    That's women in all jobs.
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    Guys are going to like it because it takes the pressure off of them, and shares out the risk of rejection. Girls are going to benefit because it opens up a wider range of possible partners for them, as it allows them to pursue someone they are really interested in, rather than selecting whoever they feel would be the best fit from those who have asked her out.
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    (Original post by Gorillion)
    That's women in all jobs.
    Men are natural system builders whereas woman basically use social skills to become beneficiaries of what men put in place, it's why Asperger's Syndrome is more prevalent in men, whereas women are more susceptible to Borderline Personality Disorder.
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    (Original post by thecatwithnohat)
    Well done on doing that! Don't you think perhaps it would've been easier and perhaps less awkward if it was a stranger, because you'd never have to see them again if they said no?
    I was comfortable around him and knew that he liked me, that might be why. If it was a friend who had shown no signs of interest before then probably a stranger would have been better, come to think of it
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    I asked a guy out once. I was 100% certain he was going to say yes though 😂😂
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    I'm all for either gender asking someone out or making the first move. I think it depends on the two people who should do it at first as one is maybe more confident or comfortable with that kind of situation than the other, nothing to do with their gender. I made the first move with my partner and told him how I felt when we were still best friends and then he asked me out so it was 50/50 - I made the first move and then he advanced on it. Although, I did already know he liked me because I overheard him tell someone so that's maybe the only reason I went for it :laugh:
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    (Original post by thecatwithnohat)
    I'm sure many of you have probably fancied someone at some point in your lives (if not, your time will come! :dumbells:) and wondered how to go about asking for a date or wondering whether you'll ever be asked to one.

    With dating becoming such an 'in' thing with the creation of Tinder and other cheeky dating apps, more people are stepping out of their comfort zone and are being more open when displaying their interest in others.

    According to match.com (that you can only sign up to if you're 18 or over sorry!) statistics, although cultural norms suggest that men should always do the asking, 91% of men who use the site are comfortable with women asking them out.

    So lads, do you agree? Girls, would you form part of the askers? :mmm:

    Girls? Would you rather have the guy ask you out or would you take the lead and ask first? If you've never asked a guy out before, would you consider it?

    Guys? Would you rather ask a girl out or have one ask you? Why?
    What do you all think?
    Tell me, tell me, tell me! :teehee:

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    I hope you asked that guy out :mmm:

    But yes.
 
 
 
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