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    (Original post by Josb)
    Christians generally don't think that the Bible is the true word of God. That's the difference.
    Neither do Muslims.
    The problem is the fundamentalist Muslims and the fundamentalist Christians.
    Granted, a higher fraction of Muslims are fundamentalist than Christians - but it still is a fraction of the 1.2 billion people following the religion this guy wants to ban.

    A couple of hundreds years ago a much larger fraction of Christians were fundamentalist than Muslims are fundamentalist now - banning it will only divide and push more people to extreme viewpoints.
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    (Original post by ValerieKR)
    Neither do Muslims.

    Muslims DO think that the Quran is the true word of God, fundamentalists or not. That makes reformation very difficult.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    Muslims DO think that the Quran is the true word of God, fundamentalists or not. That makes reformation very difficult.
    The definition of fundamentalist is believing it's the true word of God.

    I know plenty of Muslims who don't follow the Quran on the stupid stuff.
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    (Original post by Iridocyclitis)
    Who agrees?

    What she did was brave and nobel, and she has stood her ground in the face of intense criticism from the right. She has given a safe home to countless refugees who have been fleeing war and terrible conditions.
    Merkel is doing more damage to the cultural and ethnic makeup of Germany than at any time since the Soviet invasion of 45. She disgusts me.

    (Original post by sdotd)
    nope , she will lose the election due to her stupid policy
    All indications are that she will win comfortably..

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    (Original post by 1010marina)
    She put the safety of foreigners above the safety of her own people. Despicable, in my opinion.
    Seems like a cardinal sin lmao. If you asked me what the main priorities of a first world government or leader are i think it should be

    1) Safety / security - Domestic and foreign

    LMAO
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    (Original post by Josb)
    It's crazy that she answered seriously to your obvious trolling.
    Being for giving a safe haven to refugees is not trolling.
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    She won't be chancellor for much longer.

    And no she shouldn't
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    Merkel's irresposible statements enlarged the crisis, encouraging even greater numbers of people to come to Europe, and it isn't only a problem of cultural differences. It was easy to predict what is going to happen, and that Europe doesn't have enough money, or, in a first place, even logistics to supply such large numbers with what they need, I mean, language lessons and places to live. Market is also not ready to provide jobs for them.

    Also, you cannot provide social benefits for foreigners without any conditions to fullfil. Such policy is deadly not only for budget, but for all states in general, since it removes motivation for working for own state. What sense does it make, to live and work for your country, If government of other country gives you more money for free, that you would ever be able to earn in your own country? What sense does it make to pay taxes for if your country is going to spend them on strangers who didn't pay any?

    There are even no sanctions for some of those immigrants, since European prisons are far better places to live than Somalia for example. So if some immigrant from Somalia kills somebody, in his eyes he will be rewarded with free accomodation, food and medical care.

    I feel sorry for these people, and especially for those who had to stay in dangerous places, but this irresponsible policy is harmful and dangerous for everyone. Including those who risk cruises through Mediterranean.


    (Original post by ValerieKR)
    The definition of fundamentalist is believing it's the true word of God.

    I know plenty of Muslims who don't follow the Quran on the stupid stuff.

    I would ask them that If they feel free to choose, then why didn't they choose something other from this list:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ual_traditions
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    All indications are that she will win comfortably..

    She will have to make a coalition - at the very least. But if the trend continues, she will not win the elections - the CDU has already lost 10 points in a year.
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    (Original post by PTMalewski)
    I would ask them that If they feel free to choose, then why didn't they choose something other from this list:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ual_traditions
    Because it's the one their family has followed for generations and they feel most comfortable with?
    Why do people pick worshipping Beelzebub? :s
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    Or Donald Trump?
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    The amount of people who are referencing *that* incident need to look at the bigger picture.
    She has saved many thousands of people's lives. This is undeniably a good thing
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    (Original post by ValerieKR)
    Because it's the one their family has followed for generations and they feel most comfortable with?
    Yes I know but I find it so... problematic...

    (Original post by ValerieKR)
    Why do people pick worshipping Beelzebub? :s
    Orignally the Beelzebub was Baal-Zebul
    a lord of underground for people of Kaanan, who (according to Bible) were exterminated by Israelites, so it's obvious that they nicked a god of their enemies "A lord of flies" - typical kindergarten behaviour.
    But I guess that lots of those you mention simply like ZZ Tops "Beer drinkers and hell raisers"


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    She has saved many thousands of people's lives. This is undeniably a good thing
    This would have been done simply through European law and UN conventions. Those who really had to run and were able to run, would have run anyway.
    So she didn't do anything good and she did even worse than I think, if this will lead to a home-war in Europe.
    Not now, but in 20 years it's possible.
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    (Original post by PTMalewski)
    Yes I know but I find it so... problematic...
    Think about it for a bit... are you really the tolerant one in that scenario?

    And thanks for the Beelzebub info - Alex Jones is 100% right - anyone who isn't a Republican is a Satan worshipper and I welcome any opportunity to get closer to my King ^.^
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    (Original post by ValerieKR)
    Think about it for a bit... are you really the tolerant one in that scenario?

    I'm tolerant, I am not enthusiast. I see some problems caused by even moderate followers. It's the same as lack of logic, ignorance, and lack of cosequence or cowardice, plus what Sam Harris said about more particular features: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSdGr4K4qLg

    Btw. Saudi Arabia is one of most opressive and intolerant states in the world, and I'll tell you, what my English teacher told me abut a group of Saudi people he used to teach: "Alone they were critical about their country, religion and more liberal than we would imagine, but together none of them would speak a word about it. They were afraid to speak their opinion loudly in presence of somebody that would announce them to Saudi officials"
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    (Original post by cbreef)
    The amount of people who are referencing *that* incident need to look at the bigger picture.
    She has saved many thousands of people's lives. This is undeniably a good thing
    She saved them from living in refuge in Turkey...............

    Of course there's the other pertinent point which is that the majority of these people aren't even Syrian.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    She will have to make a coalition - at the very least. But if the trend continues, she will not win the elections - the CDU has already lost 10 points in a year.
    Yes however you can see from the chart that her partners have also lost votes, hence she still wins comfortably and just creates another grand coalition with a smaller majority.

    I can't see AfG winning with such a short space of time to go. There'd need to be something big happen.
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    Well she should defo get an award for screwing up Germany.

    I can't wait to see how she does in German elections.
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    Agreed, I think all of these people whinging "Merkel opened the floodgates" underestimate how bad keeping all of the migrants where they land (ie in Greece and Italy) would've been. Instead the strain was mitigated all across Europe, rather than concentrating it to two weak economies.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Agreed, I think all of these people whinging "Merkel opened the floodgates" underestimate how bad keeping all of the migrants where they land (ie in Greece and Italy) would've been. Instead the strain was mitigated all across Europe, rather than concentrating it to two weak economies.
    You insist on ignoring the fact that this increases the flood and lots if not majority of these people are not even from Syria.
    The more you welcome, the more will want to come to our "golden palaces" and we do not even have logistic possiblities to accomodate them.
 
 
 
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