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    (Original post by andrewdwilliams)
    That's interesting, thanks for the pointer. If I word my personal statement well enough, I could probably get away with applying to History at Oxford and History and Politics at my other choices. I find it odd that people are so keen on the History and Politics route when the subjects overlap so much, with political history being such a huge area of history, and with it also being the majority of what makes up politics, beyond the most contemporary stuff and the theoretical/ideological side. I also find it odd that Oxford does not want to offer a straight Politics degree, which is probably why History and Politics is so over-applied to.
    I had the same issue for my Personal Statement. I tried to solve it by giving a 50-50 spread for History and Politics and implying the overlap between the 2. I also tried to give equal weighting in my introduction. I just hope this is enough.
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    (Original post by andrewdwilliams)
    That's interesting, thanks for the pointer. If I word my personal statement well enough, I could probably get away with applying to History at Oxford and History and Politics at my other choices. I find it odd that people are so keen on the History and Politics route when the subjects overlap so much, with political history being such a huge area of history, and with it also being the majority of what makes up politics, beyond the most contemporary stuff and the theoretical/ideological side. I also find it odd that Oxford does not want to offer a straight Politics degree, which is probably why History and Politics is so over-applied to.
    Why are you applying for history and politcs at other unis, then? And there is of course some overlap, but I'm reading through some stuff now before starting in October, and I'm realising that you really do get something different from each. There's a heavy 'socially scientific' element to the politics stuff I've read so far. Quite different to studying politics in history.

    For example, there is a UK since 1900 history paper, and UK since 1900 politics paper, and they would be very different.
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    (Original post by MouseyBrown)
    Why are you applying for history and politcs at other unis, then? And there is of course some overlap, but I'm reading through some stuff now before starting in October, and I'm realising that you really do get something different from each. There's a heavy 'socially scientific' element to the politics stuff I've read so far. Quite different to studying politics in history.

    For example, there is a UK since 1900 history paper, and UK since 1900 politics paper, and they would be very different.
    For the same reason anyone else applies for History and Politics rather than single honours History - I am interested in both history and politics in almost equal measure. I perform academically well in history, whereas I keep up a very strong interest in politics at home.

    My comment was more directed at a sense of surprise that, as the subjects are similar (but not identical), so many opt for the History and Politics route when they have a better chance at getting in for History. Personally, I would sacrifice some of the politics modules for the chance to get to study at Oxford at all.
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    (Original post by andrewdwilliams)
    For the same reason anyone else applies for History and Politics rather than single honours History - I am interested in both history and politics in almost equal measure. I perform academically well in history, whereas I keep up a very strong interest in politics at home.

    My comment was more directed at a sense of surprise that, as the subjects are similar (but not identical), so many opt for the History and Politics route when they have a better chance at getting in for History. Personally, I would sacrifice some of the politics modules for the chance to get to study at Oxford at all.
    Yeah, and I guess what I'm saying is that they are actually not as similar as could be imagined, though they are definitely complementary.

    And I think what you were told could be bad advice - if you are truly interested in the different things that history and politics give you, then you can't get what you want by applying for history, and then choosing political type options. And if you think that would suit you, then I'd reconsider applying for history and politics anywhere, because it might not be quite what you imagine.

    I'm only trying to help I very nearly applied for straight history, thinking I'd much rather study history at oxford than history and politics somewhere else. But then after really looking closely at the course, I realised that history and politics gives you something specific, that you don't get from studying political stuff in straight history.
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    I'm really stuck.
    Is Ancient and Modern history tougher to get in for than straight history?
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    (Original post by jackmolineux)
    I'm really stuck.
    Is Ancient and Modern history tougher to get in for than straight history?
    We were interested in this question and had a look at last year's University stats:

    V100 240 offers (988 applicants)
    V118 24 offers (92 applicants)

    Looks like big brother & little brother to us (practically identical success rates).

    We have run a few slightly more sophisticated models and couldn't find a significant effect for AMH versus History sole.
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    Hi all,

    I can't wait to get to know you all and get involved with the discussion, wishing everyone all the best!

    I'm a Gap Year Student, whose reapplying to Oxford. My GCSEs: 9A*s 4As 1B
    A Levels: A*AA (Maths, History and Classics) I also did Chemistry at AS, getting a B.

    Special thanks to drriversong for setting up the the thread
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    (Original post by Constantinople)
    Hi all,

    I can't wait to get to know you all and get involved with the discussion, wishing everyone all the best!

    I'm a Gap Year Student, whose reapplying to Oxford. My GCSEs: 9A*s 4As 1B
    A Levels: A*AA (Maths, History and Classics) I also did Chemistry at AS, getting a B.

    Not indicative of success this year, but for those who find it interesting I scored 68 on the HAT last year.

    I'd love to get into Merton College! Went to the UNIQ Summer School in 2015 and stayed there.

    Also applying to: LSE, Durham, UCL and Exeter (For History ofc )

    Special thanks to drriversong for setting up the thread!

    Constantinople
    Hello
    So did you get rejected last year? What were the interviews and HAT like? Good luck
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    (Original post by drriversong)
    Hello
    So did you get rejected last year? What were the interviews and HAT like? Good luck
    Indeed I did, not sure i could put it all in one post, incredibly tough but exciting. I'll be sure to chip in if anyone has any questions. (though not how to get in - obviously )

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    Good luck to you all!

    And if anyone has any questions about the HAT I'll do my best to answer them (am a second year historian)
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    1)What did you get at GCSE? 6A* 4As
    2)What A-levels are you doing? History, Government and Politics, Economics(dropped), Maths, General Studies, EPQ
    3)How did your AS levels go? AAAAA (predicted A*A*A* also not started EPQ)
    4)Ideal college? Lincoln
    5)Speciality? Modern history (studied Italy, Germany and Britain). Been reading about The Borgias/Renaissance Italy, EPQ on French revolution
    6)Any extra info about yourself? Love politics, debating, economics (shame I dropped it)
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    Hey History applicants!

    I was an applicant last year and I'm now about to start at Balliol to read History!! People on TSR who'd gone through the process really helped me out when I was applying, so if anyone has any qs about anything at all (literally anything, from college choice, to my application stats, to HAT/interview advice), please do get in touch with me!

    I wish you all the absolute best of luck. You're starting on one of the most exciting journeys ever!!
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    (Original post by lifescomplexity)
    Hey History applicants!

    I was an applicant last year and I'm now about to start at Balliol to read History!! People on TSR who'd gone through the process really helped me out when I was applying, so if anyone has any qs about anything at all (literally anything, from college choice, to my application stats, to HAT/interview advice), please do get in touch with me!

    I wish you all the absolute best of luck. You're starting on one of the most exciting journeys ever!!
    Wow nice, what was your interview like if you don't mind me asking
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    (Original post by alevelpain)
    Wow nice, what was your interview like if you don't mind me asking
    No problem! I'll try my best to remember...

    I had 2 interviews at Balliol (pretty much everyone has 2 interviews at their first choice college). Some people got called to other colleges for more interviews, but I wasn't one of them.

    The whole experience of interviews was amazing - you get to stay in college for 3-4 days and I made some great friends who I'm still in touch with now.

    The History interviews at Balliol seem to follow a very specific structure that they've obvs decided is a good way of doing things. Because of this tho, my experience is very Balliol-specific! So your interviews may be quite different.

    My first interview was based entirely on the essay I submitted (side note - make sure the essay you submit is something good and that you found interesting/you feel like you could discuss!). The two tutors went through it and raised certain points about it. We basically discussed it, going a little deeper and them pushing me a bit further every time. That's when you get questions like, as I got in mine, 'what is modernity?'. But the thing is, thats not an out of the blue question - we had already been discussing the people's desire for more from politics, I suggested they wanted modernity, they asked me how I would define modernity. So it all builds up to the big questions I felt like that first one was really fun, even if I couldn't tell how 'well' it had gone (it's really hard to tell!).

    My second one was almost entirely based on an excerpt from a historical source they gave me - mine was a letter from Walter Raleigh. They told us they had deliberately chosen stuff we hadn't done at school, so we'd know nothing about it! I got 25 mins to read it beforehand, and then they asked me about it - again starting with really simple questions and building up into really stretching stuff. The tutors were really friendly in both and we had a laugh about the source, which was pretty sexist! I felt like this one went less well than the first, but I think everyone feels that with the source one cos you feel on the back foot all the time (with the first interview I knew my essay inside out; I'd never seen the source before).

    So there's my experience! I wasn't asked about my PS or application at all, which I was really surprised about. Prepare for them to ask you, though - could just have been the tutors' whim on that day! I really enjoyed my interviews but I was super nervous beforehand - for one of them I went to the wrong place to start with and had to sprint to a different building, and in the second one I couldn't open the door on the way out and one of the tutors had to do it for me! So the moral of the story is, they don't reject you just cos you did something really stupid 😂

    Hope this helps!
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    (Original post by lifescomplexity)
    No problem! I'll try my best to remember...

    I had 2 interviews at Balliol (pretty much everyone has 2 interviews at their first choice college). Some people got called to other colleges for more interviews, but I wasn't one of them.

    The whole experience of interviews was amazing - you get to stay in college for 3-4 days and I made some great friends who I'm still in touch with now.

    The History interviews at Balliol seem to follow a very specific structure that they've obvs decided is a good way of doing things. Because of this tho, my experience is very Balliol-specific! So your interviews may be quite different.

    My first interview was based entirely on the essay I submitted (side note - make sure the essay you submit is something good and that you found interesting/you feel like you could discuss!). The two tutors went through it and raised certain points about it. We basically discussed it, going a little deeper and them pushing me a bit further every time. That's when you get questions like, as I got in mine, 'what is modernity?'. But the thing is, thats not an out of the blue question - we had already been discussing the people's desire for more from politics, I suggested they wanted modernity, they asked me how I would define modernity. So it all builds up to the big questions I felt like that first one was really fun, even if I couldn't tell how 'well' it had gone (it's really hard to tell!).

    My second one was almost entirely based on an excerpt from a historical source they gave me - mine was a letter from Walter Raleigh. They told us they had deliberately chosen stuff we hadn't done at school, so we'd know nothing about it! I got 25 mins to read it beforehand, and then they asked me about it - again starting with really simple questions and building up into really stretching stuff. The tutors were really friendly in both and we had a laugh about the source, which was pretty sexist! I felt like this one went less well than the first, but I think everyone feels that with the source one cos you feel on the back foot all the time (with the first interview I knew my essay inside out; I'd never seen the source before).

    So there's my experience! I wasn't asked about my PS or application at all, which I was really surprised about. Prepare for them to ask you, though - could just have been the tutors' whim on that day! I really enjoyed my interviews but I was super nervous beforehand - for one of them I went to the wrong place to start with and had to sprint to a different building, and in the second one I couldn't open the door on the way out and one of the tutors had to do it for me! So the moral of the story is, they don't reject you just cos you did something really stupid 😂

    Hope this helps!
    Thanks! Sounds like a good interview though I just heard that they offers are made based off 30% GCSE, 30% interview, 30% HAT and 10% written work...annoying that my GCSEs were average for my school which just frustrates me😂
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    (Original post by alevelpain)
    Thanks! Sounds like a good interview though I just heard that they offers are made based off 30% GCSE, 30% interview, 30% HAT and 10% written work...annoying that my GCSEs were average for my school which just frustrates me😂
    Haha thanks 😂
    Yeah that's right - that's what the admissions data they sent me after I got my offer said. I guess you know someone on the inside huh
    Ah well, everyone has good grades so it's kinda irrelevant statistically if you ask me. At the end of the day, if they like you, they'll take you
    What college(s) are you thinking of, out of interest?
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    (Original post by lifescomplexity)
    Haha thanks 😂
    Yeah that's right - that's what the admissions data they sent me after I got my offer said. I guess you know someone on the inside huh
    Ah well, everyone has good grades so it's kinda irrelevant statistically if you ask me. At the end of the day, if they like you, they'll take you
    What college(s) are you thinking of, out of interest?
    Thanks for the reassurance! Thinking of applying to Lincoln
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    (Original post by alevelpain)
    Thanks for the reassurance! Thinking of applying to Lincoln
    Ahh good choice, Lincoln is so beautiful!!
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    Fairly sure I'm applying to Lincoln for history 2017 entry how's everyone's HAT and interview prep going?
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    Hey guys, my name is Quinn and I'm applying for History and Politics. I'm an international student (US) doing the IB so I'll just tweak the qs.

    Higher Level subjects: History, English, Biology
    Standard Level subjects: Physics, Math, French
    Ideal college: Corpus Christi
    Specialty: Cold War

    Any other people applying H&P?
 
 
 
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