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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    I don't support Trump, so your argument is completely invalid.
    He's not your preferred candidate this election cycle? Who would have been your preferred candidate may I ask?
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    The doctors said that she has pneumonia. I think we can trust doctors more than anyone else on the issue of health.
    Correction, doctors affiliated with the Clinton campaign have called it pneumonia.
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    (Original post by Dodgypirate)
    It's a jacksonian seizure.

    Clinton is aware of what is happening, but she has no control. She asks the journalists to try the "chai" to brush it off.

    She has serious medical issues.

    It would be so nice if we could have a group of impartial doctors test her, not her personal doctor, not doctors with hidden pro-Trump or pro-Clinton agenda.
    You must make quite a lot of money diagnosing patients over the Internet through snippets of video. Amazing how an election can give us all medical degrees. Similar to how 9/11 turned half of youtube into engineers and architects.

    This thread has about as much coherence and logic as a North Korean economics forum.

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    (Original post by Dodgypirate)
    Correction, doctors affiliated with the Clinton campaign have called it pneumonia.
    Doctors always are impartial. When diagnosing someone they can't and don't take into account any opinions they have of them, they just use the data they have available and their knowledge.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    You must make quite a lot of money diagnosing patients over the Internet through snippets of video. Amazing how an election can give us all medical degrees. Similar to how 9/11 turned half of youtube into engineers and architects.

    This thread has about as much coherence and logic as a North Korean economics forum.

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    You're welcome to argue with someone who has worked 25 years for the NHS as a director of psychiatry (i.e my mother). I showed her the video, and it took her 2 seconds to tell me 1)something was clearly from, 2) that Clinton was making unnatural head jerks, and 3)it was a Jacksonian seizure.

    Take it or leave it, I don't care.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    You must make quite a lot of money diagnosing patients over the Internet through snippets of video. Amazing how an election can give us all medical degrees. Similar to how 9/11 turned half of youtube into engineers and architects.

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    How come your medical knowledge is so great that you can tell that something that blatantly appears to be a seizure is actually not one? How is it that we're the ones jumping to conclusions, when you're the one looking at a woman having symptoms that exactly match a Jacksonian seizure, but you think you are smart enough to know that it may or may not be one?
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Doctors always are impartial. When diagnosing someone they can't and don't take into account any opinions they have of them, they just use the data they have available and their knowledge.
    You're telling me Clinton's personal doctor is completely impartial?!?!?!?! :lol: :toofunny:

    Give me a break.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    You must make quite a lot of money diagnosing patients over the Internet through snippets of video. Amazing how an election can give us all medical degrees. Similar to how 9/11 turned half of youtube into engineers and architects.

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    Comparing this to 9/11 conspiracies is utterly pathetic.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    How come your medical knowledge is so great that you can tell that something that blatantly appears to be a seizure is actually not one? How is it that we're the ones jumping to conclusions, when you're the one looking at a woman having symptoms that exactly match a Jacksonian seizure, but you think you are smart enough to know that it may or may not be one?
    He has no idea what a seizure is, let alone the different forms of seizures. All he has is insults.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Comparing this to 9/11 conspiracies is utterly pathetic.
    Insults and "shutting-downs". Unbelievable.
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    (Original post by Dodgypirate)
    You're telling me Clinton's personal doctor is completely impartial?!?!?!?! :lol: :toofunny:

    Give me a break.
    Yes, just like Donald Trump's personal doctor or anyone else's.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    How come your medical knowledge is so great that you can tell that something that blatantly appears to be a seizure is actually not one? How is it that we're the ones jumping to conclusions, when you're the one looking at a woman having symptoms that exactly match a Jacksonian seizure, but you think you are smart enough to know that it may or may not be one?
    Actually you'll find I haven't attempted to diagnose her or otherwise. I take issue with people who feel they can throw out medical opinions when they have not even met the person in question and are basing it on an incredibly flawed source. This idea that you can diagnosis anything without at least talking to someone is ludicrous.

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    I was a Hilary supporter but now I'm going to support Trump because Hilary is unwell.

    Said nobody....
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Please don't turn this into a pro or anti Trump or Hillary thread. It's completely besides the point. The point is that Hillary is ill, and frankly it seems like she's been ill for a while. Those coughing fits began ages ago. Additonally, here is the video of her having a seizure a few months back:



    As far as I know, pneumonia don't cause seizures like that. But what we do know is that Hillary was treated for concussion a while ago. Perhaps this related?

    I find it utterly pathetic that it's actually become some kind of right-on cause to deny that there is anything seriously wrong with Hillary. I really have no understanding of what these people are trying to achieve by doing so. If she's seriously ill, it's a pretty big deal and the above video certainly seems to point to the idea that she is. Maybe she isn't, but come on, perhaps we should at least begin to be concerned that she is.
    Ill health is not a barrier to being a president. Back in the 1990s when Boris Johnson was Russian president he had a lot of ill health, heart problems etc but he transformed Russia from the USSR to a modern democracy.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Yes, just like Donald Trump's personal doctor or anyone else's.
    Trump is releasing his health records

    That's why I'm asking whether there'd be the chance for doctors who aren't affiliated to either camp can carry out tests.
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    (Original post by Dodgypirate)
    It's a jacksonian seizure.
    (Original post by KingBradly)
    It's common to get seizures when one is being overwhelmed. Many kinds of of seizures can last just 5 seconds. Stop trying to pretend that you have a clue what you're talking about. A Jacksonian seizure typically causes no change in awareness or alertness.
    Lmao, it's certainly not a jacksonian seizure either. Theres no evidence of progression and she's moving both sides of her face and body at the same time (i.e. both hemispheres are involved).

    The actions are too rapid in globality, onset and offset. Her head rolling is coordinated and symmetrical.

    Not to mention the clear contextual background for her to make a silly face.
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    (Original post by Dodgypirate)
    He has no idea what a seizure is, let alone the different forms of seizures. All he has is insults.
    Don't worry if I'm ever sick I'll send a two minute video to you and your mother and I'm sure you'll both be able to cure me.

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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Don't worry if I'm ever sick I'll send a two minute video to you and your mother and I'm sure you'll both be able to cure me.

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    Nah, we'll just let you rot
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Actually you'll find I haven't attempted to diagnose her or otherwise. I take issue with people who feel they can throw out medical opinions when they have not even met the person in question and are basing it on an incredibly flawed source. This idea that you can diagnosis anything without at least talking to someone is ludicrous.

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    What you are doing is looking at a symptom that very obviously appears to be a seizure. You are then putting into doubt that all is what it seems, and to express such doubts you must clearly think that you have enough knowledge for your doubts to be worthy of being given credence, and you must also think that you must have enough knowledge to able to doubt what plainly appears to be true, and let's face it, it does indeed plainly appear to be true that Hillary suffers a Jacksonian seizure here.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    What you are doing is looking at a symptom that very obviously appears to be a seizure. You are then putting into doubt that all is what it seems, and to express such doubts you must clearly think that you have enough knowledge for your doubts to be worthy of being given credence, and you must also think that you must have enough knowledge to able to doubt what plainly appears to be true, and let's face it, it does indeed plainly appear to be true that Hillary suffers a Jacksonian seizure here.
    Are you a doctor though?
 
 
 
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