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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Agreed. If they want to be independent, let them be independent.
    Well there you go, many of the Indians here seem to think it's a competition between them and Pakistan of who can commit the most human right abuses.
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    To all the pakistani media channels denying that this ever happened... if US can fly in 3 choppers to Abottabad which is 100s of kms inside Pakistan and fly out after killing Bin Laden and the PAF never even realised ( an embarrassment which i may add), the Indian strike was only 500m- 2km on the other side of the LOC. Im sure as the 4th largest army in the world we have that much capability
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    Rightly so. These terrorists should be exterminated. It's been too long that these cockroaches have been terrorising millions of people and taking part in crossborder insurgency.

    If the terrorist supporting government of pakistan won't do it then we'll have to take things into our own hands.

    Thank you Modi.
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...UN-report.html

    "The Human Development Report reveals that while India ranks slightly above Pakistan in its level of 'human development' – based on life expectancy, schooling and per capita income – its wider poverty level is worse than Pakistan's.

    In absolute terms, 41.6 per cent of India's 1.1 billion people earned less than 78 pence per day compared with 22.6 per cent of Pakistan's 173 million.
    The report quotes its 'multi-dimensional poverty index' which includes measures of schooling, child mortality, nutrition, access to electricity, toilets, drinking water, and hygienic living conditions, and reveals India is poorer.

    It found 53.7 per cent of Indians suffering from this broader kind of poverty, compared with 49 per cent of Pakistanis.

    More surprisingly, India is ranked below Pakistan and Bangladesh on gender equality which reflects maternal death rates, teenage pregnancies, access to education, and the number of women parliamentarians and in the workplace."

    It's OK, I hardly expect people like you to make much sense.

    If you would like the sources for my Balochistan comment, please let me know. I think you've been embarrassed enough for now.

    A better approach next time would be to do some research and not make up figures.
    Make up figures? Waaat? Seriously? Whatever i stated is a fact
    Deny deny deny is that all you're going to do forever? Thats what you did in kargil and thats what your doing right now. You denied that the Northern infantry soldiers were yours and disowned their dead bodies and called them kashmiri freedom fighters, we buried them according to islam and gave them all burial rights.
    I would advice you to google the poverty rate in India and then Pakistan and then reply. Also the defence budgets and armed forces capabilities. The fact that there are more muslims in India proves the fact that Pakistan has been a failed concept since day one. Since 14th August 1947.
    Most muslims decided not to leave India and its a fact that Jinnah's grandson lives in India and he realises that his grandfathers decision was horrible.
    Its did not surprise me that Osama bin laden was found 500 metres next to a Pakistani army compound and Pakistani ISI's cosy relationship with the Haqqani network
    Do you know who is the largest investor in the UK? Yup its an Indian firm called Bharti Mittal and Tata Group( They own Jaguar &Jaguar Landover) is quite close to it.
    Unfortunately pakistan has failed to produce any Ambanis , Tatas, Mittals, Godrej, Premji, Birla and the list goes on. There is not a single Pakistani on the Forbes top 100 richest persons in the world list while there are so many Indian. It is true that while India exports IT, pakistan exports terrorism ( Do you know who is the CEO of Microsoft? Satya Nadela an Indian yes that's right and who is the CEO of Google ? Sundar Pichai again an Indian i bet you didnt know that and it must have been a shocker lol)
    You realise that it is no secret that the education system in Pakistan has never been in a good situation ever. We have higher ranked and a very large number of universities here as compared to pakistan.
    It is also to be noted that the Pakistani media is censored and controlled heavily by the Military and maybe to some extent by the government aswell (It does not matter the government has no power anyways.They are puppets of Raheel Sharif and other army generals ) while the Indian media is totally controlled by corporates and not at all by the government, you cant deny it. So who would be more biased? Isnt it obvious?
    Almost all member countries of the SAARC have decided to boycott the summit because of Pakistans support for terrorism amd all countries have issued statement. Countries like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan etc
    Look it up if you dont believe me.

    .Please realise that there is no Good or bad terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism
    Note- i have no ill feelings against the average or common pakistani. It is the institution of governance and the military that i am against. Most of us Indians are not against the average pakistani joe it is the military we are against. I would love to see a prosperous (Democratic)Pakistan , it would be in our best interest as we would have lesser issues of terrorism and wars. You have not lost someone close to you in these useless wars or pak sponsored terrorism so you definitely have no idea. We've had to fight with you( we have never wanted to)And wars are not in the interest of any country, war does not solve anything , nor is backing terrorism going to solve anything. But if you do then we have to do something about it obviously and thats what we are doing right now by giving the baloch separatist Bugti asylum in India. But no credible minister has said what you claim sure you are free to throw all sorts of sources at me.

    Also realise how contradictory your civilian governments and militaries statements were today. The military first straight out denied it but now they have changed their claim.

    200-300 million people can not mess with 1.3 billion people. You realise it right?

    Anyways i pity you and sorry if your ego has been severely hurt. Its alright your used it( You remember 71 right?) and we are used to listening to your retarded rhetoric from retarded people like you so idc.
    Good night!
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    (Original post by Idunno99)
    Make up figures? Waaat? Seriously? Whatever i stated is a fact
    Deny deny deny is that all you're going to do forever? Thats what you did in kargil and thats what your doing right now. You denied that the Northern infantry soldiers were yours and disowned their dead bodies and called them kashmiri freedom fighters, we buried them according to islam and gave them all burial rights.
    I would advice you to google the poverty rate in India and then Pakistan and then reply. Also the defence budgets and armed forces capabilities. The fact that there are more muslims in India proves the fact that Pakistan has been a failed concept since day one. Since 14th August 1947.
    Most muslims decided not to leave India and its a fact that Jinnah's grandson lives in India and he realises that his grandfathers decision was horrible.
    Its did not surprise me that Osama bin laden was found 500 metres next to a Pakistani army compound and Pakistani ISI's cosy relationship with the Haqqani network
    Do you know who is the largest investor in the UK? Yup its an Indian firm called Bharti Mittal and Tata Group( They own Jaguar &Jaguar Landover) is quite close to it.
    Unfortunately pakistan has failed to produce any Ambanis , Tatas, Mittals, Godrej, Premji, Birla and the list goes on. There is not a single Pakistani on the Forbes top 100 richest persons in the world list while there are so many Indian. It is true that while India exports IT, pakistan exports terrorism ( Do you know who is the CEO of Microsoft? Satya Nadela an Indian yes that's right and who is the CEO of Google ? Sundar Pichai again an Indian i bet you didnt know that and it must have been a shocker lol)
    You realise that it is no secret that the education system in Pakistan has never been in a good situation ever. We have higher ranked and a very large number of universities here as compared to pakistan.
    It is also to be noted that the Pakistani media is censored and controlled heavily by the Military and maybe to some extent by the government aswell (It does not matter the government has no power anyways.They are puppets of Raheel Sharif and other army generals ) while the Indian media is totally controlled by corporates and not at all by the government, you cant deny it. So who would be more biased? Isnt it obvious?
    Almost all member countries of the SAARC have decided to boycott the summit because of Pakistans support for terrorism amd all countries have issued statement. Countires like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan etc
    Look it up if you dont believe me.

    .Please realise that there is no Good or bad terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism
    Note- i have no ill feelings against the average or common pakistani. It is the institution of governance and the military that i am against. Most of us Indians are not against the average pakistani joe it is the military we are against. I would love to see a prosperous (Democratic)Pakistan , it would be in our best interest as we would have lesser issues of terrorism and wars. You have not lost someone close to you in these useless wars or pak sponsored terrorism so you definitely have no idea. We've had to fight with you( we have never wanted to)And wars are not in the interest of any country, war does not solve anything , nor is backing terrorism going to solve anything. But if you do then we have to do something about it obviously and thats what we are doing right now by giving the baloch separatist Bugti asylum in India. But no credible minister has said what you claim sure you are free to throw all sorts of sources at me.

    Also realise how contradictory your civilian governments and militaries statements were today. The military first straight out denied it but now they have changed their claim.

    200-300 million people can not mess with 1.3 billion people. You realise it right?

    Anyways i pity you and sorry if your ego has been severely hurt. Its alright your used it( You remember 71 right?) and we are used to listening to your retarded rhetoric from retarded people like you so idc.
    Good night!
    ok babe
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    The solution is a referendum allowing the Kashmiri people to determine their own future- something India has stood strongly against for the past 60 years.
    Actually Pakistan is the one that has been preventing that. Just read the UN Security Council Resolution 47 on Kashmir passed in 1948 which talks of a referendum in Kashmir.
    By the way, I've seen so many Pakistanis mention the resolution endlessly and ask for its adoption, but it's clear that they haven't really read it because if they had, they would be asking Pakistan's own Army and establishment why they're preventing a referendum.

    The first condition laid down by the Resolution to ensure a plebiscite and a referendum in Kashmir is for PAKISTAN to remove it's Army, tribals and Pakistani nationals not normally resident from ALL areas of Pakistan administered Kashmir i.e.: Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan; "who have entered the State for the purpose of fighting, and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State".

    Once the first condition has been satisfied, then India has to withdraw its Army from Indian administered Kashmir. It reduces its strength in stages to the minimum required for the support of civil power and the maintenance of law and order.

    After this, the responsibility falls upon India to conduct a referendum in Indian controlled Jammu and Kashmir and Pakistani controlled Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.


    The first condition of the Resolution has never been acted upon from the Pakistani side, so how can you expect a referendum in Kashmir?
    The ball is SQUARELY in Pakistan's court. Therefore it is Pakistan who has been preventing a referendum from taking place for the last 68 years.
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    I actually feel bad for the pakistanis in this thread, they're getting shut down by the facts so hard
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    (Original post by patz91)
    Actually Pakistan is the one that has been preventing that. Just read the UN Security Council Resolution 47 on Kashmir passed in 1948 which talks of a referendum in Kashmir.
    By the way, I've seen so many Pakistanis mention the resolution endlessly and ask for its adoption, but it's clear that they haven't really read it because if they had, they would be asking Pakistan's own Army and establishment why they're preventing a referendum.

    The first condition laid down by the Resolution to ensure a plebiscite and a referendum in Kashmir is for PAKISTAN to remove it's Army, tribals and Pakistani nationals not normally resident from ALL areas of Pakistan administered Kashmir i.e.: Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan; "who have entered the State for the purpose of fighting, and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State".

    Once the first condition has been satisfied, then India has to withdraw its Army from Indian administered Kashmir. It reduces its strength in stages to the minimum required for the support of civil power and the maintenance of law and order.

    After this, the responsibility falls upon India to conduct a referendum in Indian controlled Jammu and Kashmir and Pakistani controlled Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.


    The first condition of the Resolution has never been acted upon from the Pakistani side, so how can you expect a referendum in Kashmir?
    The ball is SQUARELY in Pakistan's court. Therefore it is Pakistan who has been preventing a referendum from taking place for the last 68 years.
    A referendum ran by India... I'm sure that would be fairly held :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Lord Samosa)
    A referendum ran by India... I'm sure that would be fairly held :rolleyes:
    Better than a referendum run by Pakistan

    Although my view is that IF there is to be one, then the referendum should be conducted independently by the UN or some other neutral body.
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    (Original post by patz91)
    Better than a referendum run by Pakistan

    Although my view is that IF there is to be one, then the referendum should be conducted independently by the UN or some other neutral body.
    I wouldn't trust Pakistan either lmao

    I agree, it would need to be held by a neutral body to ensure it's fair.
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    (Original post by Lord Samosa)
    A referendum ran by India... I'm sure that would be fairly held :rolleyes:
    His point still stands, Pakistan is the one not allowing a referendum to not happen, not India.
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    (Original post by LightAtTheEnd)
    His point still stands, Pakistan is the one not allowing a referendum to not happen, not India.
    Being asked to remove your army, and hand it over to another country (who wants Lashmirnfor themselves) to hold the referendum is a valid reason to not want to allow it in their view tbf.
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    Kashmir truly is the perfect topic to start an argument between South Asians :lol:
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    (Original post by Lord Samosa)
    Being asked to remove your army, and hand it over to another country (who wants Lashmirnfor themselves) to hold the referendum is a valid reason to not want to allow it in their view tbf.
    Well India has to pretty much remove its Army as well from the entire region. Although the resolution states that the Indian Army is to be withdrawn in stages to the minimum required for the support of civil power and the maintenance of law and order, in practice, it means that the Indian Army has the right only to be in the city of Srinagar.
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    Referendum or not we are missing a crucial point here.

    The states on the border were given the CHOICE to be with either India, Pakistan or Independent. The legitimate ruler of Jammu and Kashmir decided to be independent and India respected the wishes. But Pakistan being the land grabbing parasites they are decided to invade kashmir and occupy it. The ruler was worried about being part of a hell hole country so he REQUESTED India to assist him in kicking the pakistani army out. India said they will only help in one condition which was if Kashmir acceded to India legally and be a integral Indian state which the ruler AGREED to.

    So calling for a referendum when the choice had already been made by the legitimate ruler to be an Indian state; is just fruitless. Pakistanis can try for 5 years or 500 years, they will never get the whole of Kashmir and thats a fact.
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    (Original post by Lord Samosa)
    Kashmir truly is the perfect topic to start an argument between South Asians :lol:
    Or cricket
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    ok babe
    Nice Jihadi profile picture you've got there BAbE
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    (Original post by sachinisgod)
    Referendum or not we are missing a crucial point here.

    The states on the border were given the CHOICE to be with either India, Pakistan or Independent. The legitimate ruler of Jammu and Kashmir decided to be independent and India respected the wishes. But Pakistan being the land grabbing parasites they are decided to invade kashmir and occupy it. The ruler was worried about being part of a hell hole country so he REQUESTED India to assist him in kicking the pakistani army out. India said they will only help in one condition which was if Kashmir acceded to India legally and be a integral Indian state which the ruler AGREED to.

    So calling for a referendum when the choice had already been made by the legitimate ruler to be an Indian state; is just fruitless. Pakistanis can try for 5 years or 500 years, they will never get the whole of Kashmir and thats a fact.
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    (Original post by patz91)
    Actually Pakistan is the one that has been preventing that. Just read the UN Security Council Resolution 47 on Kashmir passed in 1948 which talks of a referendum in Kashmir.
    By the way, I've seen so many Pakistanis mention the resolution endlessly and ask for its adoption, but it's clear that they haven't really read it because if they had, they would be asking Pakistan's own Army and establishment why they're preventing a referendum.

    The first condition laid down by the Resolution to ensure a plebiscite and a referendum in Kashmir is for PAKISTAN to remove it's Army, tribals and Pakistani nationals not normally resident from ALL areas of Pakistan administered Kashmir i.e.: Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan; "who have entered the State for the purpose of fighting, and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State".

    Once the first condition has been satisfied, then India has to withdraw its Army from Indian administered Kashmir. It reduces its strength in stages to the minimum required for the support of civil power and the maintenance of law and order.

    After this, the responsibility falls upon India to conduct a referendum in Indian controlled Jammu and Kashmir and Pakistani controlled Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.


    The first condition of the Resolution has never been acted upon from the Pakistani side, so how can you expect a referendum in Kashmir?
    The ball is SQUARELY in Pakistan's court. Therefore it is Pakistan who has been preventing a referendum from taking place for the last 68 years.
    Lol I went to see Ram Madhav at the Oxford Union- he categorically stated that there will never be a referendum in Indian occupied Kashmir whatever happened in Azad Kashmir. He said India claims the region has a whole.

    That is the stance held by the BJP's leadership whereas the Pakistani side has repeatedly said it is willing to undertake these steps if it gets the appropriate reassurances from the Indian government.

    By the way, the Indian side has confirmed that one of their soldiers has been captured by Pakistan. Congrats to India for becoming the only country in the world capable of conducting surgical strikes across a heavily mined, fenced and fortified border, via ground and without conducting any air raids. Now what they mean by surgical strikes in this context is beyond any comprehension.
 
 
 
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