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Are women the friendlier gender?

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    Men are definitely friendlier. Always trying to stroke, touch and grab us, yelling compliments at us in the street etc.


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    (Original post by SophiaNeuning)
    Isn't that what friendliness is though? It's all about how approachable someone is, how smiley and warm they are when you first meet them. Friendliness isn't about how good a friend or person you actually are. It's more of an outer thing, less personal. I know many friendly people who are actually less nicey nicey when you know them properly. So it's a bit redundant to say someone 'seems' friendly, basically that just means they are friendly.
    Well, I personally take "friendly" to mean "acts like a friend"; I guess its a difference of definitions.

    If friendly means what you say it means, how would you distinguish between someone who smiled at you, and then told all her friends how much she hates you, and someone who smiled at you, but genuinely wished you well?
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    More testosterone = more aggressive.

    It's genetically proven.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Well, I personally take "friendly" to mean "acts like a friend"; I guess its a difference of definitions.

    If friendly means what you say it means, how would you distinguish between someone who smiled at you, and then told all her friends how much she hates you, and someone who smiled at you, but genuinely wished you well?
    Really? Cause I would never say 'oh yeah, she's super friendly!' when describing how good a friend is to me. I'd say someone is friendly if I'm trying to say that they appear warm and approachable. As for your question, well there's no way you can really answer that. If someone comes across nice and you bricks friends hopefully you'll discover they she/he is a nice person who isn't ****ging you off to everyone. Idk, I just don't necessarily associate friendliness with goodness. Some people who are a bit aloof and find it hard to be bubbly and 'friendly' are also very good friends.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    More testosterone = more aggressive.

    It's genetically proven.
    I don't think it is quite so simple!
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    (Original post by SophiaNeuning)
    I don't think it is quite so simple!
    Do you now?
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    Perhaps politer. Men are more genuinely friendly I would say.
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    Women are infinitely less aggressive than men. They're far more peaceful than guys. We know that both from crime statistics but also from intuition. I'd choose to be jailed with women rather than men any day. That's 'cos women would be far less likely to harm me.

    But otherwise I don't think they're easier to approach and also I find talking to them far more difficult than talking to other guys.
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    I find women more friendier mainly due to most of friends being women and its much easier to have deep conversations with a woman than a man.You go get those *****y attention whores who think they have entitlement. In my experience, men get more jealous and have more aniexty issues, tend to be more closed off or threating so hard to talk to. Both have negatives and positives
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Do you now?
    You cannot 100% conclusively and objectively say that men are less friendly, and that this is because they are more aggressive, and that this is because of testosterone.
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    (Original post by SophiaNeuning)
    You cannot 100% conclusively and objectively say that men are less friendly, and that this is because they are more aggressive, and that this is because of testosterone.
    Yes you can.

    Unless you are taking a literal reading of that rather than men being said in general and not (all) men.
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    (Original post by SuperHuman98)
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    (Original post by Viva Emptiness)
    Men are definitely friendlier. Always trying to stroke, touch and grab us, yelling compliments at us in the street etc.




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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Yes you can.

    Unless you are taking a literal reading of that rather than men being said in general and not (all) men.
    No you can not. You even said yourself, 'not all men'. And that wasn't even what I had issue with. I'm sure there are some studies on the link between men being perceived as less friendly and the relationship between testosterone and aggression. But friendliness, testosterone, aggression and perceived gender difference in friendliness? No psychologist would simplify these huge areas of study with such a crude statement. People need to stop assuming (because of their pop psychology readings) that there are certain facts. There are not. You couldn't even give me an objective statement of what friendliness means. People need to stop giving a really basic answer to complex statements, evidenced with a really basic understanding of evolutionary psychology. No no nooooo
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    (Original post by SophiaNeuning)
    No you can not. You even said yourself, 'not all men'. And that wasn't even what I had issue with. I'm sure there are some studies on the link between men being perceived as less friendly and the relationship between testosterone and aggression. But friendliness, testosterone, aggression and perceived gender difference in friendliness? No psychologist would simplify these huge areas of study with such a crude statement. People need to stop assuming (because of their pop psychology readings) that there are certain facts. There are not. You couldn't even give me an objective statement of what friendliness means. People need to stop giving a really basic answer to complex statements, evidenced with a really basic understanding of evolutionary psychology. No no nooooo
    Triggered?

    The best answers, the best models, the best solutions, are all simple.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Triggered?

    The best answers, the best models, the best solutions, are all simple.
    Triggered only by idiocy. Is that how you respond if someone challenges your uneducated assumption? :rofl: I just don't think aggression is why men are less friendly. I don't even think men are less friendly.
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    (Original post by SophiaNeuning)
    Triggered only by idiocy. Is that how you respond if someone challenges your uneducated assumption? :rofl:
    You went on a massive rant most of which irrelevant to the debate.

    What assumption did I make?
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    Yeah, from experience they are.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    You went on a massive rant most of which irrelevant to the debate.

    What assumption did I make?
    The assumptions made
    -men are more aggressive
    -because of testosterone
    -which has been genetically proven
    -which causes men to be less friendly than women

    You start off okay but it becomes a lil bit tenuous. It's not a rant, it's just you can't even say women are conclusively more friendly than men, and you deffo can't say that this is because men are more aggressive.

    Well you can say it. But it'd just be your opinion.

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    (Original post by SophiaNeuning)
    The assumptions made
    -men are more aggressive
    -because of testosterone
    -which has been genetically proven
    -which causes men to be less friendly than women

    You start off okay but it becomes a lil bit tenuous. It's not a rant, it's just you can't even say women are conclusively more friendly than men, and you deffo can't say that this is because men are more aggressive.

    Well you can say it. But it'd just be your opinion.

    You're right that one doesn't necessarily follow from the other but that men are far more aggressive is demonstrable in crime statistics and as I'm sure you'll have observed, in every day life.
 
 
 
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