Farage on Trump's remarks: "Look, this is alpha male boasting"

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    (Original post by RainbowMan)
    No, I agree, my beef with Trump isn't that he's an egomaniacal freakshow. No. It's that he's everything I despise politically: nationalist-populist and protectionist. The Old Right, the kind of Right that Reagan belonged to was nationalist but it wasn't populist and, at least rhetorically, it wasn't protectionist. Trump embodies everything that's wrong with this world.

    Still, those comments were disgusting.
    I think that his comments should be considered as having some relevance to Trump's competence as a (potential) leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world. It shows (to an extent) that his view of the world is a warped one. I wouldn't ideally want someone who makes such comments being president of the USA.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    Except he isn't your typical lad at the pub, he's a public figure who is running for the most powerful and important office on the planet. This is actually quite an important difference.
    The kind of men (so far) who have got into this office have often been very highly sexed with a propensity to boast about it to their cronies, no doubt.

    FDR was lifted on and off his secretary by an aide because his polio, although it didn't render him impotent made him unable to mount her.

    JFK said that if he didn't bonk someone every day he "got a headache." His aides would have to bundle them out whenever Jackie turned up.

    Clinton famously shoved a cigar up his young interns pu$$y before smoking it in the Oval Office and her semen stained dress became a sordid piece of evidence.

    So what? What we should judge world leaders on is their performance in office, facing down the Russians in the Cuban Missile crisis or Hitler in WW2. Even Clinton was pretty successful economically.

    Their sexual peccadilloes are irrelevant to all but the PC liberal fascists. As Farage rightly said, they aren't electing a Pope.
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    PC liberal fascists
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    (Original post by ilikecats12)
    Honestly, he's right. Most guys would say stuff like that as bant. If your in a uni sports team you would have undoubtedly heard stuff like this.
    I don't know about most guys but we all say things behind closed doors that we wouldn't want to be let out into the public eye.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
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    Thinking that sexual harassment is abhorrent and expecting better than 1940s misogyny from someone running for modern day public office makes you a fascist, apparently.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Thinking that sexual harassment is abhorrent and expecting better than 1940s misogyny from someone running for modern day public office makes you a fascist, apparently.
    Damn
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    He is right about this kind of language being used between young men, but in this context, Trump was talking about being able to touch women inappropriately [without their consent] because of his status, which is a whole other inexcusable subject. A tad Saville-ish if you ask me.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Thinking that sexual harassment is abhorrent and expecting better than 1940s misogyny from someone running for modern day public office makes you a fascist, apparently.
    How the heck is it sexual harassment? He said it in private and it was banter. There is no evidence that he actually assaulted any women.
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    (Original post by ilikecats12)
    How the heck is it sexual harassment? He said it in private and it was banter. There is no evidence that he actually assaulted any women.
    Some people seem to expect Presidents to be perfect moral teachers. They forget that we are all sinners. Trump is perfectly fine to be President, as much as Clinton, if not more suited to the role.
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    (Original post by ilikecats12)
    How the heck is it sexual harassment? He said it in private and it was banter. There is no evidence that he actually assaulted any women.
    He was bragging about assaulting and harassing them, saying that he doesn't wait and just "grabs them by the p****" and that his wealth and status enable him to do whatever he wants. Whether he actually did it or not doesn't change the fact that it was despicable.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Some people seem to expect Presidents to be perfect moral teachers. They forget that we are all sinners. Trump is perfectly fine to be President, as much as Clinton, if not more suited to the role.
    It's one thing to be a "sinner", it's another to have utter contempt for half of the population.
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    It was nothing more than bragging and banter and this is just faux outrage from his opponents in the midst of a bitter political campaign. I don't have a problem with that, it was a good find on the part of the Democrats, and its release was well timed to do maximum damage, just before the second debate, amongst a puritanical and hypocritical electorate like the American.

    But let's not pretend that this confected outrage is sincere or meaningful. Or indeed that it has any bearing on his ability to be an effective President. It's just politics.

    I sometimes wonder whether those getting so "outraged" live totally different, sheltered lives from real people. In a world where men don't make crude sexual boasts, and women too for the matter of that. Do they all live in convents and monasteries or something?
 
 
 
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