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    So say if England lose 1-0 to Scotland on Friday but it was a very close game do you think the ref would mind if the England team asked if they could replay the 90 minutes. After all it was a close match.

    Same stupid logic?

    Clinton v Trump has ended. No replay. No extra time. It's over. Get over it. Trump won.
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    (Original post by BobBobson)
    Do you know how stupid you sound? Trump won in a landslide, with very high turnout, why would a second vote change that?
    :facepalm2:

    Trump did not win by a landslide. He did not win the popular vote, and he got far fewer electoral votes than Obama got in 2012 or 2008, or Bill Clinton got in 1996 and 1992. Reagan's 1984 win with 525 electoral votes was a landslide - Trump's victory was pretty narrow.

    The turnout was not high; it was about average for America, and much lower than expected. Almost half of Americans didn't vote.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    :facepalm2:

    Trump did not win by a landslide. He did not win the popular vote, and he got far fewer electoral votes than Obama got in 2012 or 2008, or Bill Clinton got in 1996 and 1992. Reagan's 1984 win with 525 electoral votes was a landslide - Trump's victory was pretty narrow.

    The turnout was not high; it was about average for America, and much lower than expected. Almost half of Americans didn't vote.
    >he didnt win the electoral vote
    The vote is still being counted. CNN (A left wing new site) is predicting a Trump win in electoral votes. Stop perpetuating BS.

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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    We were discussing it in class today and my teacher is livid that Trump has won. In the ideal world Obama should refuse to leave the White House but more realistically we believe a second US election should happen to give Clinton or another democrat the chance be elected instead of Trump.

    Another idea is that there should be a coalition with Clinton given vice presidency.

    What do you think?
    Yep! And he should be replaced with Kanye West.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    So who decides who made mistakes? the opposing party?

    People like you should never be allowed to vote you clearly do not understand the system
    By allowing a man to become president that has carried out a campaign of racism, sexism and general hatred you encourage this:

    https://medium.com/@seanokane/day-1-...001#.s9hk399tb

    Now ofc the op is stupid, elections are elections there is no reason to hold another one. But that a mistake was made, was quite obvious.
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    (Original post by BobBobson)
    >he didnt win the electoral vote
    The vote is still being counted. CNN (A left wing new site) is predicting a Trump win in electoral votes. Stop perpetuating BS.

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    Did you even read what I said? I know he won the electoral vote - but is was not a landslide win.
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    (Original post by BobBobson)
    >he didnt win the electoral vote
    The vote is still being counted. CNN (A left wing new site) is predicting a Trump win in electoral votes. Stop perpetuating BS.

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    She is 300k votes ahead? He is just lucky there is an electoral system and not a popular vote.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    She is 300k votes ahead? He is just lucky there is an electoral system and not a popular vote.
    If Clinton had won the election, but not the popular vote, would you still want a second election?
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    Yes they definitely should. And it should be between the two realistic candidates who could actually be President - Bernie Sanders and Gary Johnson.
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    (Original post by Trinculo)
    If Clinton had won the election, but not the popular vote, would you still want a second election?
    Who said I want a second election?
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Who said I want a second election?
    I did
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    (Original post by Trinculo)
    I did
    So you realize your question is pointless?
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    Hi FredorJohn
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    Hahaha... You can't repeat things until you win. I'm guessing you also signed the petition for a second EU referendum!
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    (Original post by Trinculo)
    If Clinton had won the election, but not the popular vote, would you still want a second election?
    Quite frankly no. Clinton represents the status quo and that should not be changed. Clinton is the best representative of social democracy and liberal values in the US.

    Sometimes the establishment needs to step in to protect people from their own stupidity. Many People voted Trump probably thinking he'd never win, but he did, now they are regretting it. They were stupid but a second general election could save these people from being stupid forever. People deserve a second chance and its up to the social democratic system to ensure they get another chance.

    That's one reason why I believe in direct democracy.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    In the ideal world Obama should refuse to leave the White House but more realistically we believe a second US election should happen to give Clinton or another democrat the chance be elected instead of Trump.

    Another idea is that there should be a coalition with Clinton given vice presidency.

    What do you think?
    Yeah in the ideal world my favoured candidate should be able to appoint himself perpetual dictator, but more realistically we should just have endless elections until we get the correct result.

    The people throwing their toys out of the pram over this are just ridiculous.
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    no.
    should the USA scrap the electoral college method of choosing the president? yes, in my opinion. I understand why it exists, but these days, the principle of a president is not consistent with that federal idea of representation - the president is not based on the states, he is or should be based on pure popularity. the electoral college also gerrymanders the constituencies too, on top of making small states overrepresented.
    but did trump win regarding the black letter of the election laws? yes
    is his election win legitimate regarding the law, then? yes
    if americans wanted to abolish the electoral college, then why on earth didn't they shout loud enough in 2000 about it? you can't just put an issue to bed like that! you must DEMAND change.you must organise that demand via interest group action, for instance.

    there are a hell of a lot of problems with the american system - if the presidential election was with AV then you might one day see a libertarian overtake the republican if most republicans happen to be libertarians. or you might see socialists allow the greens to beat the democrats at some point in the future if enough democrats also happen to be socialists. it's a huge deal more genuine that simply first past the post. I genuinely feel that those who dislike AV don't even understand how AV works. but maybe that's it's problem - complexity. but in my opinion, people who're not able to understand things like how fair elections work shouldn't even be allowed to participate - I've always thought that there should be some kind of political knowledge/comprehension test to vote. I don't care. adults are the only people allowed to vote because of that intelligence principle. this is simply a more refined version of that. we shouldn't have people voting based on the gender of the candidate, for instance. this is a matter of PUBLIC SIGNIFICANCE - you can't, for instance, have bureaucrats doing things like that - so why voters? just because there are more voters than bureaucrats means NOTHING - we should look to a democracy like a polis, not a free for all where people can vote via absolutely disastrously ignorant mentalities. I'm not saying that bad policy preferences should be shut out - I am saying bad rationalisations for ANY policy should be shut out
    rant over.
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    Yes by all means have another vote, and while your at it have another Democratic nominee vote .Now that it's known about the corruption that went into stitching up Bernie Sanders perhaps those voting would like another go at it.
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    People voted Hitler in the German general election. That was clearly the wrong way to vote. If only the clock could have been turned back to demand a second election the world would have been a different place. No WW2, no holocaust....

    In the US there is still the chance to get a second general election.

    But the best option could be a coalition with Clinton as Vice President.
    If there was a coalition with Clinton as VP, an extreme Clinton supporter would just shoot Trump to put her in power, as the VP would become president. Then you'd have Clinton, a democrat, running the country, which most states don't want.
 
 
 
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