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    (Original post by generalebriety)
    Sure, but ignorance isn't an excuse. If you sign a bit of paper saying clearly "I agree to abide by the Statues and Ordinances", you'd better know what they are, otherwise you shouldn't sign them. I shall admit to not having read them myself, but finding the bit about posting our class lists on the Senate House took ten seconds of searching, and having read it and signed that form at matric, I know I legally don't have a leg to stand on if I decide I don't like them posting my degree class anywhere. I signed the form saying I agreed to it. I shouldn't have done so if I didn't agree.
    The thing is you have to know about it first to search for it, if you didnt know about it then you couldnt search for the information. Realistically there should be rules as to how long a contract can be, as an example to use a simple postcode finder the terms and conditions are 30000 words long. Can you be reasonably expected to read it?

    As for the actual legalities, ask Tufts, I am not 100% qualified.
    True, but I wouldn't admit that too loudly if I were you, because that probably means you strictly never matriculated and hence aren't a member of the university.
    I signed the register in my college, so I am officially matriculated, but there was no statute book with it so I am safe.
    What do you mean by "effectively"? (Genuine question, I'm not refuting what you're saying.)
    They sent out a bulk email to 1000 people with the names on it. Then made the same mistake again.
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    Nope None of our results are released even within the university itself. No list of student number and result for any modules, let alone final degree result.

    That's only for my subject though. Other courses openly post them around the campus.

    A list of graduates goes in the local paper each year but you only know who got firsts by having a star next to their name. You don't know the other classifications.
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    (Original post by apotoftea)
    Nope None of our results are released even within the university itself. No list of student number and result for any modules, let alone final degree result.

    That's only for my subject though. Other courses openly post them around the campus.

    A list of graduates goes in the local paper each year but you only know who got firsts by having a star next to their name. You don't know the other classifications.
    Which uni are you at?
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    What I would like to see is a customized-anonymous ranking system.
    Something like where you are sent an email where your name is revealed but everyone else's hidden.

    For example my uni might send me an email reading:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Computer Science 2008 Results:

    1. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    2. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    3. --------- ~ 1st : 93%
    4. --------- ~ 1st : 91%
    5. --------- ~ 1st : 88%
    6. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    7. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    8. Slick 'n' Shady~ 1st : 86%
    9. --------- ~ 1st : 86%
    10. --------- ~ 1st : 84%
    11. --------- ~ 1st : 80%
    12. --------- ~ 1st : 78%
    13. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    14. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    15. --------- ~ 1st : 73%
    16. --------- ~ 1st : 71%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 69%
    18. --------- ~ 2.1 : 68%
    19. --------- ~ 2.1 : 68%
    20. --------- ~ 2.1 : 67%
    21. --------- ~ 2.1 : 65%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 63%
    18. --------- ~ 2.1 : 60%
    19. --------- ~ 2.2 : 59%
    20. --------- ~ 2.2 : 57%
    21. --------- ~ 2.2 : 51%
    22. --------- ~ 3rd : 46%
    23. --------- ~ 3rd : 44%
    24. --------- ~ 3rd : 42%
    25. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    26. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    27. --------- ~ fail : 18%

    Class Average: 66%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Then my friend John Smith can get and email reading:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    1. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    2. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    3. --------- ~ 1st : 93%
    4. --------- ~ 1st : 91%
    5. --------- ~ 1st : 88%
    6. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    7. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    8. --------- ~ 1st : 86%
    9. --------- ~ 1st : 86%
    10. --------- ~ 1st : 84%
    11. --------- ~ 1st : 80%
    12. --------- ~ 1st : 78%
    13. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    14. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    15. --------- ~ 1st : 73%
    16. --------- ~ 1st : 71%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 69%
    18. John Smith ~ 2.1 : 68%
    19. --------- ~ 2.1 : 68%
    20. --------- ~ 2.1 : 67%
    21. --------- ~ 2.1 : 65%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 63%
    18. --------- ~ 2.1 : 60%
    19. --------- ~ 2.2 : 59%
    20. --------- ~ 2.2 : 57%
    21. --------- ~ 2.2 : 51%
    22. --------- ~ 3rd : 46%
    23. --------- ~ 3rd : 44%
    24. --------- ~ 3rd : 42%
    25. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    26. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    27. --------- ~ fail : 18%

    Class Average: 66%
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    I think this kind of system is really fair and is beneficial because you can see how well you have done in comparison,
    (maybe even motivate you to do better If they are mid-sessionals results etc) and at the same time eliminating the rest of that gossip nonsense.
    Plus you can tell employers I finished 1st, 4th or in the top ten of my class:p:
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    (Original post by Slick 'n' Shady)
    What I would like to see is a customized-anonymous ranking system.
    Something like where you are sent an email where your name is revealed but everyone else's hidden.

    For example my uni might send me an email reading:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Computer Science 2008 Results:

    1. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    2. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    3. --------- ~ 1st : 93%
    4. --------- ~ 1st : 91%
    5. --------- ~ 1st : 88%
    6. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    7. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    8. Slick 'n' Shady~ 1st : 86%
    9. --------- ~ 1st : 86%
    10. --------- ~ 1st : 84%
    11. --------- ~ 1st : 80%
    12. --------- ~ 1st : 78%
    13. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    14. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    15. --------- ~ 1st : 73%
    16. --------- ~ 1st : 71%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 69%
    18. --------- ~ 2.1 : 68%
    19. --------- ~ 2.1 : 68%
    20. --------- ~ 2.1 : 67%
    21. --------- ~ 2.1 : 65%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 63%
    18. --------- ~ 2.1 : 60%
    19. --------- ~ 2.2 : 59%
    20. --------- ~ 2.2 : 57%
    21. --------- ~ 2.2 : 51%
    22. --------- ~ 3rd : 46%
    23. --------- ~ 3rd : 44%
    24. --------- ~ 3rd : 42%
    25. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    26. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    27. --------- ~ fail : 18%

    Class Average: 66%

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    Then my friend John Smith can get and email reading:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    1. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    2. --------- ~ 1st : 94%
    3. --------- ~ 1st : 93%
    4. --------- ~ 1st : 91%
    5. --------- ~ 1st : 88%
    6. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    7. --------- ~ 1st : 87%
    8. --------- ~ 1st : 86%
    9. --------- ~ 1st : 86%
    10. --------- ~ 1st : 84%
    11. --------- ~ 1st : 80%
    12. --------- ~ 1st : 78%
    13. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    14. --------- ~ 1st : 75%
    15. --------- ~ 1st : 73%
    16. --------- ~ 1st : 71%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 69%
    18. John Smith ~ 2.1 : 68%
    19. --------- ~ 2.1 : 68%
    20. --------- ~ 2.1 : 67%
    21. --------- ~ 2.1 : 65%
    17. --------- ~ 2.1 : 63%
    18. --------- ~ 2.1 : 60%
    19. --------- ~ 2.2 : 59%
    20. --------- ~ 2.2 : 57%
    21. --------- ~ 2.2 : 51%
    22. --------- ~ 3rd : 46%
    23. --------- ~ 3rd : 44%
    24. --------- ~ 3rd : 42%
    25. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    26. --------- ~ fail : 38%
    27. --------- ~ fail : 18%

    Class Average: 66%
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    I think this kind of system is really fair and is beneficial because you can see how well you have done in comparison,
    (maybe even motivate you to do better If they are mid-sessionals results etc) and at the same time eliminating the rest of that gossip nonsense.
    Plus you can tell employers I finished 1st, 4th or in the top ten of my class:p:
    The really funny thing is that one of the depts in Durham already does it for module tests, but we are all identified by our anon codes. Why oh why cant they extend this...
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    (Original post by Slick 'n' Shady)
    What I would like to see is a customized-anonymous ranking system.
    Something like where you are sent an email where your name is revealed but everyone else's hidden.
    Sussex rolled that out earlier this year. As part of my intranet profile, I see the following "year summary", with box and whisker diagrams;
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    (Original post by Wise One)
    Sussex rolled that out earlier this year. As part of my intranet profile, I see the following "year summary", with box and whisker diagrams;
    That is such a great idea.

    Slick 'n' Shady - 94%?! I've never seen such a thing. :p:
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    (Original post by IlexAquifolium)
    That is such a great idea.

    Slick 'n' Shady - 94%?! I've never seen such a thing. :p:
    You will when I get my results.:cool:

    JK

    Seriously though I know one person in second year who got 95%+ at a first year module at my uni.:eek:
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    (Original post by Tufts)
    You want to bet? I've had a freak stalker on TSR who did just that
    My sister had a first, it was published in the paper and she ended up getting a phone call from a guy who said he'd pay her privately to come and cure his daughter of her speech impediments (my sister's degree was Speech and Language Therapy). We still don't know how he managed to contact her, but it was pretty disturbing.
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    (Original post by Slick 'n' Shady)
    You will when I get my results.:cool:

    JK

    Seriously though I know one person in second year who got 95%+ at a first year module at my uni.:eek:
    Hehe. God damn you scientists with your grossly inflated marking! :p:

    Please tell me they were a scientist? ;please;
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    You can opt to have your results not shown, i just asked one of my lecturers about it and they sorted it out! Our results are listed by student number, so i didn't really mind at first but now on the course i'm on, i'm the only student whose number begins with A5 (everyone else is A7) - so it's pretty obvious what i got!

    In terms of degree results, don't know if it's the same now (i'm at the same Uni), but when my brother got his there was a list within the department that had the results done by name and if you asked for your name not to be put up you'd have to wait another day or 2 till the results came up online (personal server thing)

    -x-
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    Wow, HMK, you miss generalebriety's point so well. Erm, they're the university's exams. If you don't like what they're going to do with the marks, then don't take them.

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    (Original post by musicbloke)
    Wow, HMK, you miss generalebriety's point so well. Erm, they're the university's exams. If you don't like what they're going to do with the marks, then don't take them.

    MB
    Or maybe actually try and improve the university so they dont continue with a poor practise. Students have rights too.

    Asides, I did not take them all anyway, but thats another story entirely...
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    (Original post by IlexAquifolium)
    Hehe. God damn you scientists with your grossly inflated marking! :p:

    Please tell me they were a scientist? ;please;
    Yes they were a scientist.
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    How hard is it to actually get a 1st?! Have no idea...
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    (Original post by T-o dore)
    How hard is it to actually get a 1st?! Have no idea...
    Well, how difficult or easy it is depends on you as a person. However, in terms of comparative difficulty, across the country 12% of degrees are awarded a first. Hypothetically though an entire year could get a first (assuming a grading curve isn't used) if everyone was good enough.
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    (Original post by IlexAquifolium)
    Well, how difficult or easy it is depends on you as a person. However, in terms of comparative difficulty, across the country 12% of degrees are awarded a first. Hypothetically though an entire year could get a first (assuming a grading curve isn't used) if everyone was good enough.
    Ok thanks, and would you say for example, a 1st from oxford would be 'harder' than a 1st from a worse uni (you know at i mean )
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    (Original post by T-o dore)
    Ok thanks, and would you say for example, a 1st from oxford would be 'harder' than a 1st from a worse uni (you know at i mean )
    There's no real way of telling, because the same student can't do the same degree the same way at two different universities.

    So, while more Oxford students might get a first than those at a university which is lower in the league tables, we can't really tell if that's due to the higher entry requirements equating to a higher 'quality' of student, or the fact that there are smaller class sizes and more support, and so on.

    So, there's no real way of telling. External examination means that all firsts should be roughly comparable. That said, the reality is probably more complex.
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    Swansea had them up when i went there for an open day.

    they put them up publicly here in sheffers as well (well at least in the law school), but you can choose to not have your thing displayed but it means you dont find out what you got until a couple days before graduation. there has been a bit of kerfuffle this year so instead of displaying by name they are displaying by registration number instead.
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    Lancaster lets us have our student number up instead of our name if we want, and no one is going to be bothered to find out about the people who are just represented by a string of numbers...
 
 
 
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