is it just me, or does london have amazing unis, then rubbish ones, none in da middle Watch

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There is a huge gulf in standards between Imperial, UCL, LSE, KCL, RHUL, SOAS, Courtauld and the other specialised UoL colleges and rest of the universities.

QMUL? Aside medicine and dentistry, not much to say about it really. Goldsmiths.....don't get me even started with this institution because even my head of department was quite critical of it when it came to choosing intercollegiate modules.
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By your definition of "middle" - which I'm taking to essentially mean upper-middle, so the likes of Leicester, Leeds and Newcastle - I'd be inclined to say Royal Holloway, Queen Mary and City are all middle.

As the fifth-onwards best in their city, however, they're bound to seem inferior compared. And that is an effect that applies elsewhere - Nottingham Trent, Oxford Brookes, and Northumbria, along with Edinburgh's other Universities will probably always be in the shadow of their more prestigious counterparts to some, no matter how well they do.
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Yes, it is just you. Only in the tiny, snobbish minds of TSR users would QMUL be considered "rubbish" :rolleyes:
even for those who arn't "snobby" it is obvious RHUL isn't in that category.
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(Original post by Vincente)
QMUL? Aside medicine and dentistry, not much to say about it really.
What, you mean apart from the Law School? And the English department which is rated 8th, and the physics department, etc?
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What, you mean apart from the Law School? And the English department which is rated 8th, and the physics department, etc?
I applied for law during my first UCAS attempt and the department is mediocre compared to the rest of the UoL. I remembered choosing SOAS instead. The rest of QMUL? Well lets just say the other colleges tend to do a better job here even if they don't specialise in that area.
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(Original post by Vincente)
I applied for law during my first UCAS attempt and the department is mediocre compared to the rest of the UoL. I remembered choosing SOAS instead. The rest of QMUL? Well lets just say the other colleges tend to do a better job here even if they don't specialise in that area.
Well no one's denying that LSE and UCL are probably better, though if you're planning on doing English or History or whatever, I'd rather be here than RHUL or Goldsmiths...
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Of the top of my head:

Top: Imperial, UCL, LSE, Kings
Middle: QM, City, RH
Crap: Greenwich, South Bank, London Met. LOL wasteman, ok I can't call everyone who goes to these unis wastemen because I do have friends at some of them (naturally- being black and all lol) but they're not good unis.

There are definitely 'middle' unis in London.
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Well no one's denying that LSE and UCL are probably better, though if you're planning on doing English or History or whatever, I'd rather be here than RHUL or Goldsmiths...
I'd rather go to RHUL...
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1. UCL, Imperial, KCL
2. Brunel, City, QMUL
3. Westminster, UEL, South Bank
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It's the same in Birmingham. There's Aston Business School, Aston and Birmingham .... and then right down the other end of the scale, a right bunch of obnoxious morons called BCU.
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It's the same in Birmingham. There's Aston Business School, Aston and Birmingham .... and then right down the other end of the scale, a right bunch of obnoxious morons called BCU.
I am a prospective student of Nottingham University, but I wouldn't bash a low-ranking university like that. BCU is a registered, accredited university, so its teaching quality must have a standardized good quality. It's not like the teaching quality would differ hugely between BCU and Aston or whatever.
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Roehampton and kingston are amazing for certain subjects, but rubbish for others. Depends on what you want. So I guess they're 'in the middle'
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Royal Holloway is not in London! I don't care!

But Queen Mary and Goldsmiths are both very good 'middle ground' unis.
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The *top* unis only give out AAA with the occasional AAB. Mid unis are ABB-BBC and anything that give offers less than that is low imo. (Obviously there are some exceptions to this but in GENERAL i believe this to be true)
Which is, what, just Oxbridge really.

UCL, Durham, Warwick etc. have a fair number of AAB - BBB departments.
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(Original post by River85)

UCL, Durham, Warwick etc. have a fair number of AAB - BBB departments.
So basically, they are middle ranking universities...
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So basically, they are middle ranking universities...
Middle-ranking unis ask for BBB-CCC. E.g. Nottingham, Liverpool etc.
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(Original post by BadExaminee)
Middle-ranking unis ask for BBB-CCC. E.g. Nottingham, Liverpool etc.
i wouldnt call nottingham university middle rank

its one of the best in the world

in the uk

the only ones that really beat it are


oxbridge, lse, ucl, durham, york, bath, imperial, warwick, bristol and st andrews

thats 10 unis that are ahead of it, and the rest below

well thats just my personal opinion

feel free to disprove me.
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QMUL and RHUL are fairly middling I would say - I would consider them and I'm middling!

And Goldsmith's is like 46th which would make SOAS middling at 24th?!
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_...rsityguide.php

In fact, according to this, all the ones that you have listed are middling, with the "rubbish" ones being Thames Valley, Greenwich and East London.
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(Original post by lyrical17)
i wouldnt call nottingham university middle rank

its one of the best in the world

in the uk

the only ones that really beat it are


oxbridge, lse, ucl, durham, york, bath, imperial, warwick, bristol and st andrews

thats 10 unis that are ahead of it, and the rest below

well thats just my personal opinion

feel free to disprove me.
Someone was ranking unis according to the offers they make. In this case Notts could be said as a low-ranking uni because in clearing I saw a lot of its courses going for CCC instead of the typical AAB-BBB.
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(Original post by Vincente)
There is a huge gulf in standards between Imperial, UCL, LSE, KCL, RHUL, SOAS, Courtauld and the other specialised UoL colleges and rest of the universities.

QMUL? Aside medicine and dentistry, not much to say about it really. Goldsmiths.....don't get me even started with this institution because even my head of department was quite critical of it when it came to choosing intercollegiate modules.
Get your head out of your arse. QM is a good university - as Democracy has said it has many good departments. I chose it for law over Durham, Warwick and Birmingham. I had 4As at A-level. It's around a top 10 uni for law - and that's ruddy competitive. It's got a nice campus and friendly ethos.
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