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    So. As long as someone uses rapidshare downlading he is okay I guess.

    Port 80 afterall and they can't really track down what you're downloading (unless they have someone with a premium account I guess :P)


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    A guy at my work got a free laptop off the uni because he had learning difficulties. He downloaded loads of porn on to it and every time it had to get fixed they found all the porn and he got fined.
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    (Original post by mja)
    Though note that you might agree to this without realising.

    My own institution includes the right of the institution to inspect all computer equipment which at any time is connected to the institution's network in an agreement that students have to sign if they want internet access in their accommodation. So most students are vaguely aware of it.

    But I know that other institutions tuck this kind of thing away on an obscure page of an enormous student handbook, which at some point you sign to agree to abide by.

    So I certainly wouldn't assume that your institution isn't entitled to inspect your computer - you may well find that you have agreed to it, even if you didn't really mean to.
    Agreed. This sort of clause does tend to get included miles into what is often a very dry document and is usually dressed in legalese.
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    (Original post by SoSp)
    So. As long as someone uses rapidshare downlading he is okay I guess.

    Port 80 afterall and they can't really track down what you're downloading (unless they have someone with a premium account I guess :P)


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    Of course they can.
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    (Original post by Chew)
    A guy at my work got a free laptop off the uni because he had learning difficulties. He downloaded loads of porn on to it and every time it had to get fixed they found all the porn and he got fined.
    That's almost as retarded as the paedophile that took his computer to PC world for a checkup and his "stash" was discovered. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    That's almost as retarded as the paedophile that took his computer to PC world for a checkup and his "stash" was discovered. :rolleyes:
    Yeah, this guy new fine well he wasn't meant to have porn there but he just didn't give a ****!
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    Of course they can.
    No I didn't mean that they can't check and see.

    But when you download a zip file in 10 parts that's named "holiday pictures" but in reality it's "Transformers 2" they can't check it out.


    Rapidshare download sites work somewhat this way.
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    I think you're pretty safe.
    I have Vuze, Limewire, Your Freedom and a load of recipes on how to make thermite, smoke bombs and even MDMA, all on a copy of Windows XP that is also illegal, and I've been fine so far :P
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    (Original post by SoSp)
    No I didn't mean that they can't check and see.

    But when you download a zip file in 10 parts that's named "holiday pictures" but in reality it's "Transformers 2" they can't check it out.


    Rapidshare download sites work somewhat this way.
    No, but what they can see if that you've been on Rapidshare and they'll see what you've been searching for and what download link you've clicked on.
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    how? Unless my search history is uploaded to them. Those sites have close registration rules so any search within the site could not be seen.
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    (Original post by SoSp)
    No I didn't mean that they can't check and see.

    But when you download a zip file in 10 parts that's named "holiday pictures" but in reality it's "Transformers 2" they can't check it out.


    Rapidshare download sites work somewhat this way.
    But they can monitor traffic, both URLs & text that is passed though. So if you went to site X looking for Transformers 2, then they would have the URL of site X to check up on and if all the text said "Newly released Transformers 2.....blah blah blah" then they would see all that, and just because the link was taking you to a file that happened to be called Holiday Pictures, you downloaded it knowing it would be Transformers 2

    They can get text from MSN convos too. Well they can get anything that is passed through that's not https... If it's https they get the URL but not the content.

    Only way to realistically get round it would be to use a secure proxy (normally cost quite a bit too) but it really shouldn't matter unless you really take the piss and download LOADS of stuff!

    Edit: Seen the replies above. The search inside the site might not be seen, but what you are looking at on their network is logged. They might not be able to get to it live and see, but they will be able to see how it looked like when you did visit it
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    (Original post by SoSp)
    how? Unless my search history is uploaded to them. Those sites have close registration rules so any search within the site could not be seen.
    Have you not considered that all your page requests are going through THEIR proxy server? They know every site you've visited. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Zack)
    But they can monitor traffic, both URLs & text that is passed though. So if you went to site X looking for Transformers 2, then they would have the URL of site X to check up on and if all the text said "Newly released Transformers 2.....blah blah blah" then they would see all that, and just because the link was taking you to a file that happened to be called Holiday Pictures, you downloaded it knowing it would be Transformers 2

    They can get text from MSN convos too. Well they can get anything that is passed through that's not https... If it's https they get the URL but not the content.

    Only way to realistically get round it would be to use a secure proxy (normally cost quite a bit too) but it really shouldn't matter unless you really take the piss and download LOADS of stuff!
    Exactly. MSN comes in plain text, so they can read your entire conversation.
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    For any http connection (i.e. anything not https), anybody between you and the site you're visiting can see what you're doing and what data is sent back. As the university network is between you and the internet, the university can see all unencrypted data you send to and receive from the internet.

    One way to avoid it would be to tunnel all your traffic through an encrypted SSH connection to a server which you control.
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    (Original post by Corsix)
    For any http connection (i.e. anything not https), anybody between you and the site you're visiting can see what you're doing and what data is sent back. As the university network is between you and the internet, the university can see all unencrypted data you send to and receive from the internet.

    One way to avoid it would be to tunnel all your traffic through an encrypted SSH connection to a server which you control.
    That's if they've not blocked Port 22.
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    That's if they've not blocked Port 22.
    Which is why you run the SSH daemon on 443, and/or use corkscrew to tunnel through https proxy servers.
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    Now all that is too much trouble for seeing Transformers 2 :P

    And still, they can look at the URL but only if they register in the site they can look at the content, right?


    That thing about MSN convos... damn!
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    (Original post by Craig_D)
    I'm sure the Uni won't mind your epic porn collection :borat:
    Haha, beat me to it :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by SoSp)
    Now all that is too much trouble for seeing Transformers 2 :P

    And still, they can look at the URL but only if they register in the site they can look at the content, right?


    That thing about MSN convos... damn!
    Using the same process as reading your MSN conversations, they can see the content of the page you're viewing using packet inspection, unless it's provided through an HTTPS connection, of course.
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    (Original post by SoSp)
    Now all that is too much trouble for seeing Transformers 2 :P

    And still, they can look at the URL but only if they register in the site they can look at the content, right?

    That thing about MSN convos... damn!
    No. They can see ALL unsecure content passed through their network. Even if it's changed/deleted/whatever, they store it as it was at the time. That's why MSN conversations are picked up, and that's why text on anything else will be picked up (including emails, as mostly the authorisation is in HTTPS, but the actual mail reading & management is in standard HTTP)
 
 
 
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