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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    TSR should look at a NO Platform policy

    It is not nice reading extremist views time and time again
    What 'extremist' views are you referring to? The Socialist ones?
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    (Original post by Jordan-James)
    What 'extremist' views are you referring to? The Socialist ones?
    The ones that attack certain groups in society including those with mental health issues
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    TSR should look at a NO Platform policy

    It is not nice reading extremist views time and time again
    Wouldn't that backfire on you!?

    With your almost treasonous Europhile views which make Ken Clarke seem almost Eurosceptic! !
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    Debating these people is pointless, they shove it back in your faces by making out they are the ones in the right.
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    (Original post by Jordan-James)
    Couldnt they just say the same thing about you? Thats such a pointless statement.
    No, if I'm arguing/debating with someone with differing views i tend to take on board what they are saying, however, in many instances they will just repeat the same rhetoric they have read in the mail etc about how immigrants are ruining our economy/all welfare claiments are unemployed 'scroungers'/our society is ruined, and when presented with the facts they just say hell no that's not the case.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    TSR should look at a NO Platform policy

    It is not nice reading extremist views time and time again
    Hilarious.

    Translation: I want to have censorship of ideas I disagree with especially illiberal thought which really ought to be made into thought-crime. We are all people and no one should refer to immigrants, benefit scroungers, mock gay marriage etc.


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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    TSR should look at a NO Platform policy

    It is not nice reading extremist views time and time again
    You support a party that has extremist views.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    The ones that attack certain groups in society including those with mental health issues
    Advocating the introduction of the market into all aspects of life is extremist.
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    (Original post by Toothfairy123)
    Hilarious.

    Translation: I want to have censorship of ideas I disagree with especially illiberal thought which really ought to be made into thought-crime. We are all people and no one should refer to immigrants, benefit scroungers, mock gay marriage etc.


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    I am not saying that, so stop trying to put words into my mouth. They should look at it, emphasis is on looking at it not imposing.

    It is nasty reading posts by these people that slate certain groups in society.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    Debating these people is pointless, they shove it back in your faces by making out they are the ones in the right.
    Your comment about extreme views did sound ironically extreme as you implied censorship is the way to deal with views you disagree with

    I don't want to 'shove anything in your face' btw
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    TSR should look at a NO Platform policy

    It is not nice reading extremist views time and time again
    as anyone ever had a 'no platform' policy which isn't fascist in nature ? whether it;s macarthyites claiming giving platform to 'reds' will result in death or the lefties in student politics demanding no platform for 'extreme' ' right wing' groups while sharing ethically sourced fairtrade tea and buns with anarcho-syndicalists and other left wing terrorist groups ( e.g. UAF)
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    Here we go again, pure BS by these people. By making out I am in the wrong.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    I am not saying that, so stop trying to put words into my mouth. They should look at it, emphasis is on looking at it not imposing.

    It is nasty reading posts by these people that slate certain groups in society.
    You ignored my post about your own extreme views about the EU!
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    (Original post by zippyRN)
    as anyone ever had a 'no platform' policy which isn't fascist in nature ? whether it;s macarthyites claiming giving platform to 'reds' will result in death or the lefties in student politics demanding no platform for 'extreme' ' right wing' groups while sharing ethically sourced fairtrade tea and buns with anarcho-syndicalists and other left wing terrorist groups ( e.g. UAF)
    ha ha ha ha!
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    (Original post by Jprr)
    No, if I'm arguing/debating with someone with differing views i tend to take on board what they are saying, however, in many instances they will just repeat the same rhetoric they have read in the mail etc about how immigrants are ruining our economy/all welfare claiments are unemployed 'scroungers'/our society is ruined, and when presented with the facts they just say hell no that's not the case.
    Perhaps a reason for that is that you get your facts from a newspaper, and maybe they see it happen in front of their own eyes?

    Welfare for example, Everyone i know, even my own mum, has avoided declaring income in the past in order to claim benefits.

    Telling me that i generalise those on welfare, and then presenting needless facts that are put out there to most likely lessen the extent of the problem.

    The fact of the matter is, if welfare wasnt inefficient, the government wouldnt cut it, lol.
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    (Original post by zippyRN)
    as anyone ever had a 'no platform' policy which isn't fascist in nature ? whether it;s macarthyites claiming giving platform to 'reds' will result in death or the lefties in student politics demanding no platform for 'extreme' ' right wing' groups while sharing ethically sourced fairtrade tea and buns with anarcho-syndicalists and other left wing terrorist groups ( e.g. UAF)
    The irony of those lefties who try to say that fascism os a preserve of the extreme right!

    I don't mean to upset anyone btw !
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    The ones that attack certain groups in society including those with mental health issues
    Who? I cant say ive seen anything like that on here, i mustn't be on here enough!
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    (Original post by Jprr)
    Arguing with UKIP/BNP/EDL is like chess with a pidgeon, no matter how good you are at playing chess, the pidgeon will just knock over all the pieces, do its business on the board and strut around like its victorious.
    They seem to believe Daily Mail/The Sun etc is showing the REAL WORLD... It astounds me...
    Isn't this Farage's basic technique? He struts around mouthing it off - then when debated with properly, as on QT, he just gets louder and louder, repeats the same clueless points in different ways, makes stuff up about the EU (I heard him say at least five completely factually innaccurate things about the EU and about immigration policy last time he was on QT) and then when cornered properly, as by Paxman on Newsnight, throws his toys out of the pram and gets all huffy for being questioned.
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    (Original post by a729)
    The irony of those lefties who try to say that fascism os a preserve of the extreme right!

    I don't mean to upset anyone btw !
    It is a preserve of the extreme right. What ZippyRN describes is not fascist. He should stick to nursing, his knowledge of politics is woeful.
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    (Original post by Jordan-James)
    Perhaps a reason for that is that you get your facts from a newspaper, and maybe they see it happen in front of their own eyes?

    Welfare for example, Everyone i know, even my own mum, has avoided declaring income in the past in order to claim benefits.

    Telling me that i generalise those on welfare, and then presenting needless facts that are put out there to most likely lessen the extent of the problem.

    The fact of the matter is, if welfare wasnt inefficient, the government wouldnt cut it, lol.
    You're saying a statistical fact, say that less than 1% of benefits claims are fraudulent, is less reliable than an individuals subjective personal experience?

    Bizarre.
 
 
 
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