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    Hey, I'm not sure if this has already been covered but I haven't read through all of the posts on this thread... Does anyone know the round about UKCAT score that people should be aiming for when applying to GEM? I'm aware that it's higher than for undergraduate courses and obviously changes year to year depending on national performance. I have never sat the test before and so I am not quite sure what is a good result...
    Thanks!
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    (Original post by somethingbeautiful)
    I think you should do it. I'm just starting GAMSAT revision too (alongside UKCAT revision). I decided not to go down the A-Level route for the same reasons.

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    I'm reading the 600 UKCAT book, in particular the 'Decision Analysis' section and my Philosophy degree is finally coming in handy here! It's very similar to symbolic logic (if anyone else ever had the misfortune of studying that!).
    We can do this! How are you revising for GAMSAT?

    Haha lucky you!! Nice head start!


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    (Original post by ruth_glasgow)
    Hey, I'm not sure if this has already been covered but I haven't read through all of the posts on this thread... Does anyone know the round about UKCAT score that people should be aiming for when applying to GEM? I'm aware that it's higher than for undergraduate courses and obviously changes year to year depending on national performance. I have never sat the test before and so I am not quite sure what is a good result...
    Thanks!
    Obviously it varies wildly between unis and years, but I would say that you're probably safe if you manage 725 or higher, more would obviously be safer!


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    Just rescheduled my UKCAT earlier so I have more time to focus on just GAMSAT. Not registrered for GAMSAT yet. AH SCARED
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    What prep are people doing for UKCAT then?
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    Does anyone know where to find the number of places per university? I can't find it....
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    (Original post by tw781)
    What prep are people doing for UKCAT then?
    I am planning to use this (http://www.ukcat.ac.uk/preparation) and then see if any reading material I can get. got a week off work so I will spending that time revising
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    (Original post by Angelofashes92)
    Does anyone know where to find the number of places per university? I can't find it....
    They are usually on the University websites of each course +/ prospectus...
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    Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

    Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?
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    (Original post by adamphilpot)
    Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

    Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?
    Might be useful in terms of talking about being calm in a stressful situation, importance of good communication with your patients, the understanding of needing to work effectively with other healthcare professionals as part of a multidisciplinary team. Maybe.
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    (Original post by adamphilpot)
    Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

    Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?
    That's really good! You'll be able to talk about high stress situations, you'll meet different people with varying issues and you'll be able to practice and see some clinical procedures.
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    (Original post by adamphilpot)
    Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

    Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?
    Just the training course no... Actually doing the FPOS work when you are seeing patients with the ambience service Yes
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    (Original post by adamphilpot)
    Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?
    (Original post by lcsurfer)
    Just the training course no... Actually doing the FPOS work when you are seeing patients with the ambience service Yes
    yeah thats what i was thinking, the work after the course would be good but wasn't too sure if doing the course would count towards anything. Still worth mentioning i think though even if i don't actually get to do the work after.
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    Do you get govt funding for this course ?


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    (Original post by hassyrocks)
    Do you get govt funding for this course ?


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    Determined by a range of factors.Go through the thread and research e.g nhs website, student loan company etc
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    Hi all,

    A little late to the party, but have spent the past couple of days catching up with most of this thread (been a bit quiet at work).I was hoping to get some thoughts on my application.

    After average GCSE's and relatively poor A-Levels (due to a complete lack of effort on my part). I went on to a BSc Computer Science (with a specialisation in Artificial Intelligence) at university, but due to unfortunate circumstances, I only ended obtaining a 2:ii.

    Following this I went travelling, and whilst travelling I had an (admittedly very cliched) epiphany after being hospitalised and coming close to death. This was the prompt I clearly needed to kick my arse into gear.

    When I returned home from travelling, I got a job as a network technician in a secondary school, and after 1 year there, I began teaching Computing and Mathematics.

    I have been accepted to start my PGCE at the Institute of Education (ranked number 1 for teacher training in the world) in Sept. 2015 and have been awarded the British Computer Society's scholarship for outstanding teaching candidates.

    I also started a distance learning LLB Laws (2 year course) a year ago (intending to specialise in medical law), but stopped after my first year as it just wasn't medicine. I averaged an Upper 1st through that year, but have decided it just isn't what I want to be doing. This was also while I was working full time (9-3.30 teaching + several hours marking and planning lessons per day).

    So, aside from my educational background, I have an abundance of extra curriculars. My experience is somewhat varied from the usual, but still within a public health/care role. I have worked alongside a private physiotherapist (2 evenings per week and most Saturdays) for several months now as well being a strength and conditioning coach for athletes (from amateurs up to national competitors). I have plenty of experience in public relations roles, and hope to attain some work in care homes/hospices over the summer (prior to starting my PGCE).

    Aside from needing to study for the GAMSAT (no easy task, I know), is there any thing else you guys think I could improve on to help supplement my poor educational background.

    I appreciate this is a lot of info, so thank you anyone who takes the time to read this entire thing, but for those who didn't, here is the TL;DR summary:

    Poor grades in early education.
    Have shown a commitment to working hard.
    2 years experience teaching technical subjects.


    Any input, critical or otherwise is appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Dave
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    is this graduate entry course who can afford to pay the fees themselves and there is no help from govt. and the student finance? how people could manage paying 10000£ a year? without loans . isn't this really expensive?
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    (Original post by hassyrocks)
    is this graduate entry course who can afford to pay the fees themselves and there is no help from govt. and the student finance? how people could manage paying 10000£ a year? without loans . isn't this really expensive?
    Student finance and maintenance loans are available.


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    (Original post by d.holmes1)
    Hi all,

    A little late to the party, but have spent the past couple of days catching up with most of this thread (been a bit quiet at work).I was hoping to get some thoughts on my application.

    After average GCSE's and relatively poor A-Levels (due to a complete lack of effort on my part). I went on to a BSc Computer Science (with a specialisation in Artificial Intelligence) at university, but due to unfortunate circumstances, I only ended obtaining a 2:ii.

    Following this I went travelling, and whilst travelling I had an (admittedly very cliched) epiphany after being hospitalised and coming close to death. This was the prompt I clearly needed to kick my arse into gear.

    When I returned home from travelling, I got a job as a network technician in a secondary school, and after 1 year there, I began teaching Computing and Mathematics.

    I have been accepted to start my PGCE at the Institute of Education (ranked number 1 for teacher training in the world) in Sept. 2015 and have been awarded the British Computer Society's scholarship for outstanding teaching candidates.

    I also started a distance learning LLB Laws (2 year course) a year ago (intending to specialise in medical law), but stopped after my first year as it just wasn't medicine. I averaged an Upper 1st through that year, but have decided it just isn't what I want to be doing. This was also while I was working full time (9-3.30 teaching + several hours marking and planning lessons per day).

    So, aside from my educational background, I have an abundance of extra curriculars. My experience is somewhat varied from the usual, but still within a public health/care role. I have worked alongside a private physiotherapist (2 evenings per week and most Saturdays) for several months now as well being a strength and conditioning coach for athletes (from amateurs up to national competitors). I have plenty of experience in public relations roles, and hope to attain some work in care homes/hospices over the summer (prior to starting my PGCE).

    Aside from needing to study for the GAMSAT (no easy task, I know), is there any thing else you guys think I could improve on to help supplement my poor educational background.

    I appreciate this is a lot of info, so thank you anyone who takes the time to read this entire thing, but for those who didn't, here is the TL;DR summary:

    Poor grades in early education.
    Have shown a commitment to working hard.
    2 years experience teaching technical subjects.


    Any input, critical or otherwise is appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Dave
    Hi Dave,

    If you are applying to GAMSAT unis that accept 2ii non science degrees - they will not actually look at your previous records of GCSE and A-Level results - but to be honest - you can confirm this with the Unis for an ease of mind (this was the feedback I got from Plymouth and Exeter for example although both are undergrad entry as they don't have GEM routes) - good luck with it all
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    (Original post by d.holmes1)
    Hi all,

    A little late to the party, but have spent the past couple of days catching up with most of this thread (been a bit quiet at work).I was hoping to get some thoughts on my application.

    After average GCSE's and relatively poor A-Levels (due to a complete lack of effort on my part). I went on to a BSc Computer Science (with a specialisation in Artificial Intelligence) at university, but due to unfortunate circumstances, I only ended obtaining a 2:ii.

    Following this I went travelling, and whilst travelling I had an (admittedly very cliched) epiphany after being hospitalised and coming close to death. This was the prompt I clearly needed to kick my arse into gear.

    When I returned home from travelling, I got a job as a network technician in a secondary school, and after 1 year there, I began teaching Computing and Mathematics.

    I have been accepted to start my PGCE at the Institute of Education (ranked number 1 for teacher training in the world) in Sept. 2015 and have been awarded the British Computer Society's scholarship for outstanding teaching candidates.

    I also started a distance learning LLB Laws (2 year course) a year ago (intending to specialise in medical law), but stopped after my first year as it just wasn't medicine. I averaged an Upper 1st through that year, but have decided it just isn't what I want to be doing. This was also while I was working full time (9-3.30 teaching + several hours marking and planning lessons per day).

    So, aside from my educational background, I have an abundance of extra curriculars. My experience is somewhat varied from the usual, but still within a public health/care role. I have worked alongside a private physiotherapist (2 evenings per week and most Saturdays) for several months now as well being a strength and conditioning coach for athletes (from amateurs up to national competitors). I have plenty of experience in public relations roles, and hope to attain some work in care homes/hospices over the summer (prior to starting my PGCE).

    Aside from needing to study for the GAMSAT (no easy task, I know), is there any thing else you guys think I could improve on to help supplement my poor educational background.

    I appreciate this is a lot of info, so thank you anyone who takes the time to read this entire thing, but for those who didn't, here is the TL;DR summary:

    Poor grades in early education.
    Have shown a commitment to working hard.
    2 years experience teaching technical subjects.


    Any input, critical or otherwise is appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Dave
    Whats the point of doing a PGCE if you want to do medicine?

    Your poor school academics won't limit you, but your 2:ii will. Research carefully where will accept you (there's only a few places that will).

    Definitely try and organise some long-term caring experience. Care homes, as you alluded to, are good places for this.

    Have you shadowed any doctors? Do you know what the job entails? Definitely try and get some shadowing done if you haven't already, it gives you a decent feel of the day to day life of a dr.

    Also, why all the constant career path changes? CS, law, teaching, now medicine? Make sure you have a good answer for this when interviews come around.

    Start revising for the GAMSAT asap.

    Other than that, best of luck to you.


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