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    (Original post by ha27)
    ok, that female suicide bomber she wore the veil only for a month before the attacks she had never read to qur'an before she was known to have many many boyfriends she didnt care about the religion and she drank all the time
    please do not associate these people with islam if they do not even know what the qur'an says

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    She's rediscovers Islam and within a month she becomes a suicide bomber. Before hand she was a harmless lout, yes that's totally not Islams fault even though Islam is the entire reason for why she did it.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    After yet more terrible terror attacks in France is it time that Europe faces reality and bans Islam & muslim immigration to Europe, muslim attacks seems never ending, 9/11, 7/7, Lee Rigby, Madrid Bombings, Belgium attacks, Rotherham Abuse, Charlie Hebdo & now more attacks in Paris.
    Yes thank you finally someone who has some sense!!
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    How about ban all non-White immigration

    You don't see Asia being flooded with non-Asian people do you?

    Why is being against immigration that destroys the existing population an issue?



    Why should White people care about the feelings of non-Whites, when it is White people who are losing our their homeland not them?
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    What has failed, with regard to ‘education’, is the liberal brainwashing intended to indoctrinate us all into disbelieving human nature e.g. that, as ivy.98 succinctly put it “people come .. with their own country [read: civilisational ethno-cultural identity/values/norms] which they have no intention of giving up on”


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    If a muslim wants to be my next door neighbor, I would assume that he is residing in this country to provide a roof for his family and increase his standard of living. Supposedly this person happened to have terrorist-ideals doesn't mean I need to apply this attribute on every Muslim I see. Your education failed if you couldn't apply this simple distinction in your life.
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    Engineered genocide of Europeans long ago.

    It is obvious who is behind it because of the timing. It wasn't long after WW2 this all started..


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    (Original post by Cin.Na.)
    I'll answer you, I hope you will catch the hint.

    Every religion has restrictions and requirements about new followers.


    The only religion to force people to act as Muslims is Islam. No other religion using force for gathering followers. The other way round, well developed religions restrict followers and demand them to be a high level human beings.


    Only Islam force every rat on the planet to become Muslim, only they don't have requirements and exams, and don't put efforts to uplift the spirit of their followers.

    That is a pitiful religion, I am telling you....


    Only rapes and killings in their minds.....no peace, no beauty, no love. Nothing.


    It will pass away and normal people will wonder what was that Islam? like nowadays people wonder what was the Mayan culture killing people for the God's fun and food?


    No blood being wasted - God is putting them under exam - and they fail.


    Let them kill and rape, God will take its revenge for the killed and raped, trust me.

    God is above us all.
    ........Are you aware that God tells Muslims not to enforce religion upon others? God also tells Muslims not to kill, or harm, INNOCENT people. I agree with you on what you said about God taking revenge on people who kill and rape, the victims of murders, rapes, etc. deserve justice. But Muslims are not rapists nor murderers... certain PEOPLE are murderers, rapists, etc.

    Islam spreads peace and it's truly unfortunate that you can't look behind the eyes of the media to see that real Muslims are not the terrorists you see on TV.

    Also, as I said before in my previous post, there are people from all religions who do evil, we don't blame Christians for Hitler, The KKK or the Catholic priests who have a reputation for raping little boys nor do we see it on the news..

    I just think it's really stupid I have to stick up for my religion because there are terrorists claiming to be a part of a religion they don't even follow properly.
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    Let's be quite clear on this, for all of you living in ignorance. These attacks are not being coordinated by members of the muslim community, read the Quran and you will see where God says that one who kills someone else unlawfully, it is like he has killed every person on Earth, it is that great of a sin. Furthermore, suicide is forbidden in Islam, yet some of you are saying that suicide bombers shouted 'Allahu Akbar', they've just gone against one of the core beliefs in Islam that your life belongs to God, it is not yours to take.

    AND in the Quran, God states 'he who wishes to disbelieve, let him disbelieve'. Hence, Islam does NOT force anyone to follow Islam, anyone who does use such force is not a muslim. It is foolish of anyone to say these ISIS members, or any other terrorist is a muslim, you'll notice that 'terrorists' didn't even exist until the war in Afghanistan started, in which George.W.Bush himself stated that the US was to blame for the creation of ISIS and all these other vile abominations that have occurred. Read behind the politics and you'll realise that the West is a lot more involved in the causes behind these attacks. Religion is not a pretext for war, it is just an excuse used by politicians to start a war, as war is how they make their money!
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    (Original post by HGS345)
    Let's be quite clear on this, for all of you living in ignorance. These attacks are not being coordinated by members of the muslim community, read the Quran and you will see where God says that one who kills someone else unlawfully, it is like he has killed every person on Earth, it is that great of a sin. Furthermore, suicide is forbidden in Islam, yet some of you are saying that suicide bombers shouted 'Allahu Akbar', they've just gone against one of the core beliefs in Islam that your life belongs to God, it is not yours to take.

    AND in the Quran, God states 'he who wishes to disbelieve, let him disbelieve'. Hence, Islam does NOT force anyone to follow Islam, anyone who does use such force is not a muslim. It is foolish of anyone to say these ISIS members, or any other terrorist is a muslim, you'll notice that 'terrorists' didn't even exist until the war in Afghanistan started, in which George.W.Bush himself stated that the US was to blame for the creation of ISIS and all these other vile abominations that have occurred. Read behind the politics and you'll realise that the West is a lot more involved in the causes behind these attacks. Religion is not a pretext for war, it is just an excuse used by politicians to start a war, as war is how they make their money!
    Terrorists didn't exist till Afghanistan.... Classic


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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    If you don't see clear and unconditional condemnation, either you're blind, or you're only looking at the news at a superficial level. Or perhaps you don't check to see if there are any condemnations? You realise that it's not sensationalist enough when we condemn it for us to make it into the big news? Evidence:

    http://muslimmatters.org/2015/11/14/...slim-response/

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    http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...ow--b1V6zQTOKe

    http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...ink-again.html

    http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/

    http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-ramadan-...h-time-1990904

    http://www.ibtimes.com/india-muslim-...slamic-2083620

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/to...ligion-137976/

    http://bridge.georgetown.edu/here-ar...n-looking-for/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmgGG8CbsLI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAxIOC8Zisc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hMy3e2x5e8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAWOS9Ac44

    You have now indicated your failure to differentiate between muslim groups by talking about it in terms of 'them muslims killing each other' in a situation where there is a clear oppressive group (wahaabis) and several groups subjected to persecution - shi'a, ahmediyya, moderate sunnis, mutazzili, ibadi.
    Look objectively and take your 'us vs them' glasses off.
    From http://muslimmatters.org/2015/08/24/...gery-part-one/ :
    "They are our brothers who transgressed against us"

    Your brothers - your problem. Don't whine, you are 1.5 billion "true" Muslims. Fight them, defeat them and the whole world will applaud you.
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    (Original post by admonit)
    From http://muslimmatters.org/2015/08/24/...gery-part-one/ :
    "They are our brothers who transgressed against us"

    Your brothers - your problem. Don't whine, you are 1.5 billion "true" Muslims. Fight them, defeat them and the whole world will applaud you.
    We are fighting them. They're not only a threat to us, so it'd make sense for you to help if we ask for it. They might be mainly attacking us, but they're also attacking you, albeit to a lesser extent. You don't have to help us fight them. As far as I can tell, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah and the Syrian army can do this without western help. In fact, without western aid to so called rebels, we wouldn't have it this bad right now.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    After yet more terrible terror attacks in France is it time that Europe faces reality and bans Islam & muslim immigration to Europe, muslim attacks seems never ending, 9/11, 7/7, Lee Rigby, Madrid Bombings, Belgium attacks, Rotherham Abuse, Charlie Hebdo & now more attacks in Paris.
    You know Islam is a religion on peace and anyone who kills an innocent person can no longer call themselves muslim! Also 94% of all terrorist attacks are committed by non-muslims. Dont forget about the KKK etc! Dont just pin point it all on muslims!.

    In my opinion the world needs to be more educated on all religions so we dont get more racist threads like this one!
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    (Original post by Bham369)
    You know Islam is a religion on peace and anyone who kills an innocent person can no longer call themselves muslim! Also 94% of all terrorist attacks are committed by non-muslims. Dont forget about the KKK etc! Dont just pin point it all on muslims!.

    In my opinion the world needs to be more educated on all religions so we dont get more racist threads like this one!
    'Also 94% of all terrorist attacks are committed by non-muslims.'

    Proof?

    'In my opinion the world needs to be more educated on all religions so we dont get more racist threads like this one!'

    It's wrong, but it's not racist. Islam is not a religion, and there are native, 'white' adherents of Islam who these people would also force to leave our continent.
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    Nothing about these attacks represent what Islam promotes and teaches. In the Quran (Muslim holy book) it says "to kill one is to kill all of humanity" - which illustrates that these extremists do not even follow their own religion and are just mentally ill and lost serial killers. Why stereotype an entire religion based on the act of 0.02% of its population? What about the other 99.98% who have no links with terrorism and intend on living peacefully. We do not blame the entire Christian faith for the acts of Ku Klux Klan and we don't stereotype the religion of Buddhism as hostile due to the acts of extremist Buddhist Monks targeting religious minorities in parts of Asia so why is this connection being made for the religion of Islam. Hundreds of thousands of foreign refugees are trying to escape the types of disaster and destruction that most people in the UK could not imagine. As human beings we have a responsibility to help other humans who are struggling and in need ,especially if we as a country are responsible for why the country they are coming from has become a war zone, with no judgement on their religion but characteristics as a person and their plans for the future. Overall, do not associate the barbaric acts of Islamic extremist groups ,which is condoned by the rest of the Muslim people around the world, with your opinion on the other 99.98% of Muslims and the religion of Islam itself (which ultimately promotes peace).
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    (Original post by wbcsuly)
    Nothing about these attacks represent what Islam promotes and teaches. In the Quran (Muslim holy book) it says "to kill one is to kill all of humanity" - which illustrates that these extremists do not even follow their own religion and are just mentally ill and lost serial killers. Why stereotype an entire religion based on the act of 0.02% of its population? What about the other 99.98% who have no links with terrorism and intend on living peacefully. We do not blame the entire Christian faith for the acts of Ku Klux Klan and we don't stereotype the religion of Buddhism as hostile due to the acts of extremist Buddhist Monks targeting religious minorities in parts of Asia so why is this connection being made for the religion of Islam. Hundreds of thousands of foreign refugees are trying to escape the types of disaster and destruction that most people in the UK could not imagine. As human beings we have a responsibility to help other humans who are struggling and in need ,especially if we as a country are responsible for why the country they are coming from has become a war zone, with no judgement on their religion but characteristics as a person and their plans for the future. Overall, do not associate the barbaric acts of Islamic extremist groups ,which is condoned by the rest of the Muslim people around the world, with your opinion on the other 99.98% of Muslims and the religion of Islam itself (which ultimately promotes peace).
    Why do 26% of British Muslims sympathise with Isis?


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    (Original post by paul514)
    Why do 26% of British Muslims sympathise with Isis?


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    Because, according to inside sources, ISIL originally was not created for humans, but ordered and specified by a highly developed alien race living on Uranus.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    Why do 26% of British Muslims sympathise with Isis?


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    On a philosophical note: how do we know that you're not some diseased rapist Nazi sympathiser?

    Prove it... *Evidence has to be confirmed via a Poll. Any other claim is unlikely to stand up to the test.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    Terrorists didn't exist till Afghanistan.... Classic


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    TSR Member: "1.5 billion Muslims are not terrorists".

    Paul: "Durkha Durkha Mohammad Jihadis".

    Classic...
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    (Original post by Diffusion)
    Banning Muslim immigration ignores the fact that homegrown terrorism exists .. and that indigenous citizens people can convert and then become radicalised
    No it doesn’t, it just doesn’t deal with it and, yes, may enhance this problem in the short-term (e.g. in the absence of other, similarly drastic domestic policies)

    Aspects of society (such as the healthcare) rely on Muslim immigration
    Elements of our mixed economy have come to rely on immigration too heavily as it is. Plus, this begs the question: just how divided must society become/how many innocents must be raped/murdered before action is taken?

    people [including potential terrorists] would just lie about their religion just to get into the country
    You’re assuming that we would profile emigrants on the basis of self-declared religious affiliation alone

    (Original post by IBIB)
    Will nothing be done to stop the next inevitable muslim attack on UK or France
    Apparently not, unless you’re Belgium, in which case taking action means passively 'monitoring' a ghetto that has become a veritable hotbed of Islamic extremism and closing down your city centre out of fear. These beardy militant types must be having a good old chuckle. Europe is a ****ing shambles

    (Original post by TheThiefOfBagdad)
    Thoughts?
    It took just 0.001% of those Syrians in Europe to effect the attacks in Paris

    (Original post by Al_YG)
    ISIS has in fact killed more muslims than non-muslims!!!
    No-one would dispute that. Fact remains: we have major problems with Islamism, and non-integrating Muslims, in the West. The fact a group like ISIS kills a lot of Muslims out East does not negate these facts, nor our right to demand something is done about the situation

    (Original post by Al_YG)
    The acts of this group are purely political not religious
    Hence, Islamism

    If it was religious then 1.6 billion humans would have been part of ISIS
    An alarming proportion of Muslims support the actions of Islamic terror groups, I’m afraid (as per the stats in my OP)

    (Original post by Al_YG)
    If people can be radicalised on-line then inter-boarder movement is not necessary for the expansion of this terror group
    It’s not necessary, for sure, but it does help (particularly where more militaristic terrorist operations [e.g. ‘domestic insurgency’] are concerned)

    (Original post by BGreen123)
    You need to read it with context. When it was written, heretics were executed so that's where those quotes come from
    Oh well, that’s ok then

    In Ecclesiasticus it states homosexuality is wrong so are all Christians homophobes?
    Many are, but few are openly, most knowing the importance of ‘doing the decent thing’. The problem is (quite obviously) not just with the doctrine, but with interpretation and adherence. Pick another straw man

    (Original post by drowzee)
    Many immigrants have integrated perfectly well
    Many have, many haven’t

    'just like everybody else'
    Think again (see my OP for reference)

    People will not give up on some of their culture because it's a part of their identity, there is nothing wrong with that
    I’m afraid there is, as noted in this post

    As long as they have integrated and respect the British culture, then they are just like everybody else
    Unfortunately not. Limited respect/toleration is insufficient ‘integration’ e.g. they are duty bound to hold the law of Allah higher than any secular laws of the ‘kafir’, and a large proportion are not interested in fully integrating, never mind assimilating; indeed, to do so would be haram

    (Original post by ivy.98)
    with each generation they become a generation further removed from the traditions and value system of the nation of their immigrant ancestors
    Not where militant Islamists are concerned – the 1st generation immigrants have gone about their business relatively peacefully, whereas their offspring, and some converts, have been the ones who have tended to hit the headlines

    Syrian refugees.. Coming to Germany and Austria, many of them entered the countries undocumented.. Extremists could have been one of them
    Correct. Several of the Paris bombers entered e.g. as ‘refugees’, from Syria, in recent months/years. European leaders/authorities have been extremely negligent and they have blood, and will most certainly have more blood, on their hands. Meanwhile, in the UK, Cameron was pressured into declaring we’d accept 20,000 Syrians, and yet imbecilic lefties demanded yet more. It beggars belief
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    No it doesn’t, it just doesn’t deal with it and, yes, may enhance this problem in the short-term (e.g. in the absence of other, similarly drastic domestic policies)

    Elements of our mixed economy have come to rely on immigration too heavily as it is. Plus, this begs the question: just how divided must society become/how many innocents must be raped/murdered before action is taken?

    You’re assuming that we would profile emigrants on the basis of self-declared religious affiliation alone

    Apparently not, unless you’re Belgium, in which case taking action means passively 'monitoring' a ghetto that has become a veritable hotbed of Islamic extremism and closing down your city centre out of fear. These beardy militant types must be having a good old chuckle. Europe is a ****ing shambles

    It took just 0.001% of those Syrians in Europe to effect the attacks in Paris

    No-one would dispute that. Fact remains: we have major problems with Islamism, and non-integrating Muslims, in the West. The fact a group like ISIS kills a lot of Muslims out East does not negate these facts, nor our right to demand something is done about the situation

    Hence, Islamism

    An alarming proportion of Muslims support the actions of Islamic terror groups, I’m afraid (as per the stats in my OP)

    It’s not necessary, for sure, but it does help (particularly where more militaristic terrorist operations [e.g. ‘domestic insurgency’] are concerned)

    Oh well, that’s ok then

    Many are, but few are openly, most knowing the importance of ‘doing the decent thing’. The problem is (quite obviously) not just with the doctrine, but with interpretation and adherence. Pick another straw man

    Many have, many haven’t

    Think again (see my OP for reference)

    I’m afraid there is, as noted in this post

    Unfortunately not. Limited respect/toleration is insufficient ‘integration’ e.g. they are duty bound to hold the law of Allah higher than any secular laws of the ‘kafir’, and a large proportion are not interested in fully integrating, never mind assimilating; indeed, to do so would be haram

    Not where militant Islamists are concerned – the 1st generation immigrants have gone about their business relatively peacefully, whereas their offspring, and some converts, have been the ones who have tended to hit the headlines

    Correct. Several of the Paris bombers entered e.g. as ‘refugees’, from Syria, in recent months/years. European leaders/authorities have been extremely negligent and they have blood, and will most certainly have more blood, on their hands. Meanwhile, in the UK, Cameron was pressured into declaring we’d accept 20,000 Syrians, and yet imbecilic lefties demanded yet more. It beggars belief
    You know what's disturbing? I can't disagree with anything you've written here. Even your fifteenth point, while not according to the principles Muhammad taught to the muslims who were told to seek asylum in Abysinnia about respecting their laws and only adhering to those laws which didn't conflict with abysinnian law - to the point of not praying if the abysinnians banned it, and migrating elsewhere instead - is still accurate to describe the majority of religious muslims in europe. :/
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    (Original post by Farage is a hero)
    We need to consider deporting the ones already here, unless we want to be living under the Shariah in 2050, which is what 40% of the so called moderate majority of muslims in the UK want
    (Original post by Farage is a hero)
    Islam has no place in Western civilization. It is completely opposed to it in fact
    We do need to pursue ‘repatriation’, as a priority, as you are quite right about Islam in the West – it’s never worked out historically and never will do (until Islam undergoes its reformation, and Muslims experience their Enlightenment)

    We won’t be living under Shariah, however – either Muslims will eventually all shift to more moderate positions or the Islamification of Europe will get to a point at which other sections of society can no longer tolerate it (in which case there will be race war/anarchy, or all of the above). Hasan_Ahmed is probably correct in his appraisal: “If they try to codify anti-muslim laws .. muslims in the uk will be obligated to fight .. A british inquisition -will- result in civil war”

    (Original post by BGreen123)
    What a preposterous xenophobic point!
    Trust me, it’s not preposterous, and cultural alarmism/intolerance =/= xenophobia, necessarily

    Deporting Muslims would mean the country would fall apart
    1) Many Muslims make an important contribution to our mixed economy but I’m afraid that you are incorrect (speaking as an Economist)

    2) The country is already falling apart

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    would people also be advocating not letting in any more Christians or Atheists
    Those groups share commonalities with us a la politics of identity. Islamists do not. Hence, Islamists pose a unique social/security threat. If another group comparably disparate to us Westerners started behaving like Muslims then you can bet your ass they would meet with the same hard line from those of us with the prescience to see where this train-wreck is likely headed

    How about if it was a black man
    A black man may feel somewhat ‘alien’ but (supposing he is not Muslim, from a tribal background, and a non-commonwealth country, with no knowledge of English) there will often be commonalities e.g. linguistic/cultural/religious/commonwealth ties, that militate against psychological behaviour on the same (divisive/destructive) scale as that of (radical) Islamists

    (Original post by wajeeh1364)
    preventing 1.5 billion people from entering Europe is rather stupid
    Wait, what!? :lolwut:

    (Original post by master1234567)
    There are millions living in Europe for better life not to attack innocent people
    1) Millions of people living in our midst focused mostly on improving their own lives, rather than integrating, never mind assimilating, is hardly cause for celebration

    2) There are millions of Muslims in Europe who support terrorism and could, in certain circumstances, suddenly feel compelled to take up Jihad. It’s a veritable tinder box, only few have the balls to call it

    (Original post by Copperknickers)
    they have admittedly given up numerous elements of Islamic culture to do that
    Not Muslims (according to Islam, and their fellow Muslims), and unrepresentative of Muslims outside of your particular circle I’m afraid. Most of the ‘moderate’ Muslims I’ve known have scarcely assimilated, and these are relatively educated/affluent young metro-Muslims

    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    Muslims will be practically forced into forming a state within a state here, or declaring independence
    That won’t wash with the people of Europe, although the North Europeans (Brits/Scandinavians) might be stupid enough to tolerate such a thing (considering we’re already tolerating this going on semi-covertly) :rolleyes:

    (Original post by TheFrogfather)
    When the IRA were detonating bombs..
    ISIS is incomparable to virtually every other terror group in history, including other Islamists

    why in hell are some people so desperate to now ban Islam and Muslim immigrants?
    (Original post by IBIB)
    the vast majority of muslims are peaceful, law-abiding and good citizens[?]
    For a clue, see my OP

    Once you have isolated a specific group of people from society, you have started down a path which leads to said people being dehumanised and completely in your power
    You’re not wrong, and that’s regrettable, but the truth is that this particular group has been busily isolating itself for the past generation. Realtalk

    it's through this process that every genocide in history has been allowed to take place
    I don’t believe there are many people out there who would wish death on anyone, but it is precisely because we do not wish death on our own people, and Muslims living among us, that we must speak out

    (Original post by rosie62)
    ISIS does not represent the Muslim faith as I understand it
    Then I’m afraid that you don’t “understand it”

    (Original post by Blur Ella)
    ISIS made it clear many months ago they would flood Europe with their terrorists. Even then, the German Chancellor went on to announce to the world that anyone and everyone from war torn countries can now enter Europe and she also made the decision for the other EU countries as to how many 'migrants' each country should take in
    This is the worst part. The writing was not only on the wall, but ISIS were actively pointing to it, and still they persisted with their absolutely insane ‘open door’ policy

    they can never reverse what has happened
    Yes, yes they can, and they must, or the populations of Europe will rise up and do it for them, only in a far more chaotic and bloody way that will mean everyone suffers

    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    The mistake Britain made was that she decided to form an empire of far flung pieces of land with peoples of vastly different and initially incompatible cultures instead of fighting for control of Europe
    Nonsense. Our problems began after the War, by which time our days of Imperialism were over, when we started wilfully importing migrants from the colonies (we had total agency, we were not victims of our own Imperial zeal in this respect). Idealism, not Imperialism, has led us down the road to ruin

    (Original post by Blur Ella)
    'Who should and can UK trust? Europe or the Commonwealth?’
    That’s the wrong question. The question is who can we trust to steer the UK out of the quagmire. Being associated with Europe/Commonwealth is only problematic when the political classes at the helm at home are weak/self-interested/myopic enough to sell us out (inadvertently or otherwise)

    (Original post by Turkeyisbest)
    People need to wake up and think the truth
    They do indeed e.g. with regard to Turkey’s false flag acts of terrorism against its own population, perhaps

    (Original post by jensenbudz611)
    1) The majority of Muslims who actually do these attacks are, in fact, not actually Muslim
    Who told you that? Cameron himself has conceded that ‘ISIS are a Muslim terror organisation’ and that ‘it is no good quibbling over whether or not they are Muslim because plainly they are, they self-identify as such’

    2) Europe has already tried to decrease the amount of refugees fleeing into Europe
    So what, we should just relax and ‘let it be’?

    It is not the fault of the Syrians who actually want to live peacefully for those who abuse the liberty of being allowed into countries like France and start fighting
    Indeed not, but this is not a matter of blame (or if it is then the blame must fall squarely on the shoulders of the imbecilic ‘leaders’/’authorities’ who have allowed the situation to play out the way it has)

    It also isn't fair to the Syrians to be kicked out of a country/not let into a country
    Agreed, but sometimes life is unfair, and we have every right to put our security/way of life above some abstract concept of ‘fairness’ concerning people who take it upon themselves to travel half way around the world to settle somewhere desirable

    3) We blame Muslims for all terrorist acts
    No we don’t, we’ve just come to expect most terror attacks to be associated with Muslim perp’s*

    (Original post by Onde)
    We should accept more immigrants generally, but attempt to block extremists
    Good luck with that

    Simply being an ordinary day-to-day Muslim would not necessarily be enough to justify blocking someone from entering, despite what Islamic ideology says on paper
    How much more divided/under threat would you need our society to get in order to be convinced of this I wonder?

    (Original post by Onde)
    I believe that significant levels of immigration to our country would be good for an economy
    The evidence suggests not, where unfiltered Muslim world migrants are concerned (proportion economically inactive: c.75% of females / c.50% of males)

    As for asylum seekers...we have a natural responsibility to accept our fair share, at the very least
    1) No we don’t, we can lawfully redirect them to a ‘safe third country’

    2) The “natural responsibility” of our ‘leaders’ is to protect our people and their interests/way of life
 
 
 
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