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    Might I also add that this isn't the first time either.

    This appeared on Fatah's Facebook page after the three Israeli boys were abducted and murdered.




    As supporters of Israel and human rights around the world used social media to campaign for the return of the three Israeli boys who were kidnapped last week, Fatah, the party that leads the Palestinian Authority, celebrated the kidnapping with hateful cartoons on its Facebook page.
    http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/06/15...eful-cartoons/



    This is the "partner for peace". This is who Israel is supposed to deal with. To sit next to a man and his government that mock the deaths of children.

    Yet the European media don't show any of this.

    The BBC refused to allow an Israeli minister to show pictures of victims from the Synagogue attack - yet in the summer conflict with Gaza, the BBC was camped outside Gaza's hospital to get the 'money shots' of injured children.

    Disgusting bias.
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    (Original post by Radicalathiest)
    Ah so you prefer hysterical rhetoric which adds nothing to the issue other than making it easier to ignore.

    Is that what you want? Do you want the majority of people to simply ignore the issue?

    Is hasbara paying you for this
    The Israeli operation in Gaza was a massacre according to the thousands of Palestinians who were massacred and many, many others all over the world.
    The attack on the synagogue was an operation according to those who carried it out (PFLP).
    Different sides of the same coin, see?
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    With Israel I stand. Our only hope for progress in the Middle East.
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    (Original post by intheTSRspirit)
    This is a non-story, that 'Palestinians celebrate murders'. It didn't happen, and if it did, certainly not in the way implied at all. In fact, there are Israeli demos calling for 'death to Arabs' and the BBC doesn't report on those either, when they are are very much happening and amply covered by alternative media.
    The BBC is heavily biased in favour of Israel. The BBC reports on Israeli woes disproportionately, and that was brought to fore during the Gaza operation which arguably left the Palestinians worse off, but the BBC still managed to make it look as if Israel was the victim. The BBC's viewers are free to protest a perceived bias because the BBC is publicly funded. The only delusional people in the question would be the Zionists protesting the BBC's bias apparently against them, which is ridiculous.
    Both Jews and Arabs suffer, this is a fact, but whenever the BBC covers it, in the background it usually shows Palestinian suffering which massively creates this sense of one side being the oppressor and the other the oppressed.
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    Both Jews and Arabs suffer, this is a fact, but whenever the BBC covers it, in the background it usually shows Palestinian suffering which massively creates this sense of one side being the oppressor and the other the oppressed.
    'Both Jews and Arabs suffer, this is a fact' - actually, this is an inadequate, incomplete fact; the fact is that one of them suffers more and ends up worse off, because one has the upper hand, one of them is the occupier and the other the occupied, one of them has the weapons and funding from powerful states all over the world, one of them has recognition and one of them is bound by law, but apparently only nominally. The BBC never wantonly creates a sense of oppression surrounding the Palestinians, ever. If you think it does obviously you haven't considered it. If you think its paltry coverage of Palestinian misery is sufficient to 'create this sense' that you speak of, then you are biased. The very fact that you're trying to equate the occupier and the occupied bespeaks partiality.
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    Just watch Fox News if you want to watch Israeli bias.
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    (Original post by intheTSRspirit)
    'Both Jews and Arabs suffer, this is a fact' - actually, this is an inadequate, incomplete fact; the fact is that one of them suffers more and ends up worse off, because one has the upper hand, one of them is the occupier and the other the occupied, one of them has the weapons and funding from powerful states all over the world, one of them has recognition and one of them is bound by law, but apparently only nominally. The BBC never wantonly creates a sense of oppression surrounding the Palestinians, ever. If you think it does obviously you haven't considered it. If you think its paltry coverage of Palestinian misery is sufficient to 'create this sense' that you speak of, then you are biased. The very fact that you're trying to equate the occupier and the occupied bespeaks partiality.
    >Paltry coverage of Palestinian misery


    It's true what Chindits says, I'm not one for turning suffering into pornography for Westerners in their safe, cosy little suburbs, but the BBC will always show a Palestinian child who is injured or crying, but a Jewish victim will rarely be shown and it will never be an emotive image. It as if, rather than being run by vicious far-right antisemites, the BBC is run by subtle ones who simply refuse to acknowledge Jewish suffering anywhere, as if it is of the less importance.


    Even this idea that Israel is backed by all the world's most powerful states, that everyone has Israel's back and that Israel has the upper-hand is the very problem, these are the very myths which feed into this idea that Israel is the big guy who can never be the victim. Western Europe is largely anti-Israel or indifferent, the USA does support Israel I admit, but China and Russia are anti-Israel. Equally, there are dozens of Arab countries which all support Palestine many of which have declared wars on Israel, just this one tiny country. Equally I could ask why the BBC obsesses over Israel when there are troubles in parts of Africa and Asia which get very little coverage, ask the Tamils what they think about the level of coverage the Palestinians get.
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    (Original post by intheTSRspirit)
    according to the thousands of Palestinians who were massacred
    If they were massacred how can they tell you they were massacred?

    Do you have a Hamas ouija board that allows you to speak to the dead?
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    >Paltry coverage of Palestinian misery


    It's true what Chindits says, I'm not one for turning suffering into pornography for Westerners in their safe, cosy little suburbs, but the BBC will always show a Palestinian child who is injured or crying, but a Jewish victim will rarely be shown and it will never be an emotive image. It as if, rather than being run by vicious far-right antisemites, the BBC is run by subtle ones who simply refuse to acknowledge Jewish suffering anywhere, as if it is of the less importance.
    Surely you cannot be serious. If a Palestinian child injured or crying is shown, then that is simply because that image is so ubiquitous it defies ignorance and denial. It has to be shown because it's the only thing that can be seen. If there are few Jewish victims shown then that is simply and clearly because there are very few Jewish victims.


    Even this idea that Israel is backed by all the world's most powerful states, that everyone has Israel's back and that Israel has the upper-hand is the very problem, these are the very myths which feed into this idea that Israel is the big guy who can never be the victim. Western Europe is largely anti-Israel or indifferent, the USA does support Israel I admit, but China and Russia are anti-Israel. Equally, there are dozens of Arab countries which all support Palestine many of which have declared wars on Israel, just this one tiny country. Equally I could ask why the BBC obsesses over Israel when there are troubles in parts of Africa and Asia which get very little coverage, ask the Tamils what they think about the level of coverage the Palestinians get.
    I never said that it's supported by all and sundry; that's an unnecessary straw man. I said that Israel is mightier than Palestinians because it gets funding and support from powerful states all over the world; Israel is the OCCUPIER and Palestinians are the OCCUPIED; some far flung Arab states may support Palestine (whatever that is in their eyes) but they do so only putatively; there is no material benefit for the Palestinians from their alleged support; the Arab states are largely puppet states and they cannot be compared to powerful states like the USA and UK. We're not talking about BBC bias towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; that is a pathetic diversion; we are talking about BBC bias within the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
    Israel is an occupier. Palestinians are an occupied people. Israel has an able army. Palestinians do not. They cannot be equated to each other, unless you are being grossly partial or extremely ignorant.
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    You may not know the future. Hamas and Hezbollah destroying Israel would be better for the entire region.
    Hamas and Hezbollah are both recognised terrorist groups. If peace is your aim then yes, maybe them destroying Israel would be a good thing. However, there is no guarantee of peace from them. And if there was, it's not as if they treated their own people well. Hell, why not hand over the entire ME to ISIS? They're goals are the reestablishment of the Islamic Caliphate. They may be brutal extremist dictators but damn, they would bring peace as no country in the ME would be at war with each other.


    When the zionist terrorists carried out their massacres and terrorist acts and succeeded in creating a Jewish state the entire ME saw it as a victory for oppression and evil
    And the rest of the world didn't. Well, certainly not the MAJORITY of the vote by the UN as to decide whether Israel should become a country.
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    Western Europe is largely anti-Israel or indifferent,
    Are you serious? I think you're very ignorant if you truly believe that, especially when our Prime Minister rebuked so-called 'terrorists' and blamed the deaths on them while the Israeli army ravaged Gaza, uttering not a word against the latter, the latter being their close pals. This discussion is way out of your league; go educate yourself and then come back and try again
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    (Original post by intheTSRspirit)
    I was referring to the arguments people make when trying to explain away the real reasons why Palestinians may resort to such desperate tactics as attacking seemingly innocent people.
    "Seemingly"? They were praying in a synagogue. They weren't doing anything bad (unless you call Judaism a bad thing?)
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    (Original post by intheTSRspirit)
    Are you serious? I think you're very ignorant if you truly believe that, especially when our Prime Minister rebuked so-called 'terrorists' and blamed the deaths on them while the Israeli army ravaged Gaza, uttering not a word against the latter, the latter being their close pals. This discussion is way out of your league; go educate yourself and then come back and try again
    Western Europe expands beyond GB.
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    'BBC not showing any images of 'palestinians' celebrating murders' thread merged with Israel/Palestine Conflict megathread.
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    The trouble is, Hamas run the Gaza strip, and were elected into power there. That is a root cause. There can never be peace if the people don't support peace. There can never be freedom if the people don't support freedom. Peace and freedom are the two main enemies of Hamas.
    The whole issue boils down to this, and some of the people will never support peace until Israel ends its oppression of the Palestinian people, and abides by its obligations to human rights, justice and freedom.

    There was plenty of time for Israel to end its oppression of the Palestinian people before 2006. They did not do so. Thus, Hamas's running of the Gaza Strip is most certainly not a root cause, and is rather an effect of driving people to desperation and hopelessness.
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    (Original post by james22)
    It's making the point that the deathds in Israel are a natural consequence of war, and not Israel trying to deliberately kill palestinians as a lot of people claim.
    wow. you could not be further from the truth right now.
    the 'claim' that israel deliberately kill Palestinians IS the cold harsh truth. there is nothing in the world that can argue against that, nothing - end of.
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    (Original post by james22)
    It's making the point that the deathds in Israel are a natural consequence of war, and not Israel trying to deliberately kill palestinians as a lot of people claim.
    You sure about that?
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...php?p=49331615
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    (Original post by sarsoora)
    wow. you could not be further from the truth right now.
    the 'claim' that israel deliberately kill Palestinians IS the cold harsh truth. there is nothing in the world that can argue against that, nothing - end of.
    They deliberately kill terrorists. To claim they deliberately genocide civilians is completely untrue. It's simply not in their interests to do so. Israel could wipe out Gaza and the West Bank in a matter of days militarily if that was their objective.
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    (Original post by sarsoora)
    wow. you could not be further from the truth right now.
    the 'claim' that israel deliberately kill Palestinians IS the cold harsh truth. there is nothing in the world that can argue against that, nothing - end of.
    Can you provide any evidence of that? If Israel wanted to kill Palestinians tehre would be a lot more dead. The numbers killed right now compared to hostiles killed is typical for war. If there was deliberate targeting of civilians it would be higher.
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    (Original post by viddy9)
    The whole issue boils down to this, and some of the people will never support peace until Israel ends its oppression of the Palestinian people, and abides by its obligations to human rights, justice and freedom.

    There was plenty of time for Israel to end its oppression of the Palestinian people before 2006. They did not do so. Thus, Hamas's running of the Gaza Strip is most certainly not a root cause, and is rather an effect of driving people to desperation and hopelessness.
    In that case, why are the surrounding countries unfree? They were never "oppressed" by Israel.

    The surrounding countries are unfree because the people don't believe in freedom.
 
 
 
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