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    Hi guys,

    I'm starting my PGCE primary at Chester in September and I've just been sent a precourse reading list with 19 books on!

    I've ordered one from each category and Im just wondering whether this will be enough for now?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    Thank you I really regret going to the interview now.. I spent most of my weekend and all of last night planning my lesson and giving it everything. I got in and my nerves got the better of me, stuttered a lot - all over the place.

    They didn't take me past the interview stage and I really did feel like crying and angry at the same time because I tried so hard for this. My pace was slow I agree - he said something like you need to move on because we did that 5 years ago which was kind of harsh and a tad rude.. And then said but you'll make a good teacher I'm sure and was like thanks for your half empty compliment.

    I didn't know I could feel this down trodden after an interview sat her in my car for literally the past hour just staring into thin space.. Wondering if this is the right career for me..
    Sorry to hear this that interviewer sounds so rude, there is no need to speak to you like that. Take some time for yourself (not easy, I know) and try and put it behind you. There will be other jobs, and they'll be there if you want to keep applying.
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    (Original post by mammamia:0)
    Hi guys,

    I'm starting my PGCE primary at Chester in September and I've just been sent a precourse reading list with 19 books on!

    I've ordered one from each category and Im just wondering whether this will be enough for now?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated
    I've got eight weeks to go and I still haven't ordered any of the books on my reading list yet
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    Hi guys,

    Does anyone know if there is a deadline for applying for a PGCE (sept 2015 start)? I've been looking around but I haven't really found any information about when I have to send the application in by.
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    (Original post by kpwxx)
    Lots of schools organise set pre visits after school hours which can be useful if they're within around half an hour of your placement, or they might let you visit then anyway. Obviously not ideal as there aren't children there, but you sometimes see after school clubs and can still get a good feel for what's important to them. You also get to see the school lots on interview day so you can reinforce the visit and if you change your mind just say so and leave.

    Other than that, I arranged all my visits in my PPA time. Again not perfect but at least you won't miss teaching hours!

    Also, I empathise with the feeling, it is very overwhelming and often feels easier to just put it off. So don't feel bad about that. You made the choice before because it felt right for you. That's all you can do. But the more you apply the less scary it gets... You already have a good PS/application since you got an interview, so that's one big step passed!

    Xxx

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    Thanks. The whole visiting schools during PPA sounds ideal especially if I try and squeeze it towards the end of the day. I do think the way the headteachers show you around the school does have an impact on the level of comfort and everything.

    Just curious with regards to the application process. Have most people started completely from scratch when writing new applications to different schools? I understand the need to personalise however it does seem like some examples would be relevant in both applications.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Oh I'm so sorry to hear you feel this way. PLEASE don't let it put you off going to more interviews. I know that it can scar you, but you built on these things and pick yourself back up. I was majorly nervous for my interview. My hands were shaking when I was giving out my resources. I think most people feel that way.

    What did he mean by you need to move on because we did that 5 years ago? He meant your lesson was outdated or something? If that's what he meant then that's certainly a rude way to put it, BUT it is helpful feedback for the future if it's true.

    We all have doubts about this career. I know that for sure! If you were having doubts anyway then that's fine, but if they have only appeared because of this interview then they are not real doubts. You are just feeling low in confidence. My friend who is an NQT now had nine interviews before she got her job. I don't know how she managed because like you, I feel pretty hopeless after one! You just need to keep going. If you are lacking in confidence then it won't be the worst thing in the world if you do supply for a bit in September because I've heard it's excellent for confidence and experience.

    Keep going. Talk to your mentor about it. Mine made me feel a lot better. :hugs:


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    Thank you! x

    I know I was giving you similar advise days before but I didn't like the swift change in manners at the beginning he was very nice and pleasant at the end wanted me out and was like see yourself out please as if to say you wasted our time get out.

    Is there such a thing as overpreparing? I planned so much for this then got nervous began stuttering etc..

    Everything happens for a reason though I have had a good cry lol

    (Original post by alabelle)
    Sorry to hear this that interviewer sounds so rude, there is no need to speak to you like that. Take some time for yourself (not easy, I know) and try and put it behind you. There will be other jobs, and they'll be there if you want to keep applying.
    Thank you! x

    I know.. my current school make their kids do the so called 'outdated; stuff he said, I didn't do that in my first placement, but then picked it up from second one.. it's quite unpredictable really.

    My mentor will just say 'oh well' and the HOD will secretly be happy and make a judgement on me as she already has done, she thinks if people are not 'snapped up' quickly there's a reason for it.. hah.
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    (Original post by kwhite7)
    Hi all, does anyone have children here? I have a three year old about to embark on a Primary PGCE. It would be nice to hear from any current PGCE students juggling children!! Thanks x


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    Yep I have a three year old too. Just coming to the end of my PGCE (on the SDS route)...I'm exhausted to say the least! Feel free to DM me any questions you might have
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    Thank you I really regret going to the interview now.. I spent most of my weekend and all of last night planning my lesson and giving it everything. I got in and my nerves got the better of me, stuttered a lot - all over the place.

    They didn't take me past the interview stage and I really did feel like crying and angry at the same time because I tried so hard for this. My pace was slow I agree - he said something like you need to move on because we did that 5 years ago which was kind of harsh and a tad rude.. And then said but you'll make a good teacher I'm sure and was like thanks for your half empty compliment.

    I didn't know I could feel this down trodden after an interview sat her in my car for literally the past hour just staring into thin space.. Wondering if this is the right career for me..
    Hugs!

    I hate applying for jobs!! And the teaching part of interviews I always just found horrible (apart from the one where I got the job where I actually had to interact with the children leading their play, which is the majority of an Early Years teachers job, then I was so much more comfortable!). I think all schools would be better to just get teachers to read a story or interact with the children during free time or similar, so they can see how they really move on learning, rather than lead a whole class/group of children they've never met and know nothing about... it's very high pressure and I'm sure many brilliant teachers have nerves get to them like you did.

    I wouldn't say you can over prepare as such but if you feel like preparing is making you too nervous/stressed, take a break and just do something completely different. This will help stop you getting worked up. And remind yourself, like airfairy said, this is just one job, one option, it's not the be all and end all!

    Good luck.

    (Original post by mammamia:0)
    Hi guys,

    I'm starting my PGCE primary at Chester in September and I've just been sent a precourse reading list with 19 books on!

    I've ordered one from each category and Im just wondering whether this will be enough for now?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated
    Yes that'll be fine! Just read books that seem interesting to you. I'd also take the time to immerse yourself in kid's culture/lives etc rather than worrying about specifics of education (since they will go over all that on the course anyway). So things like visiting museums and other places kids might visit, reading lots of children's books and books/TV shows/films etc about children's lives. Things like Anita and Me, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime, documentaries in schools (secret life of four-year-olds on 4OD is good, also Etre et Avoir (To Be and To Have) with English subs). Even watching kids TV and film and looking in to kids websites of the moment. Most of those things will be free, maybe in your local library.

    You don't get much time on the course to really connect with that sort of thing, and it's also fun and relaxing since you will be very busy once you start!

    (Original post by Tombola)
    Thanks. The whole visiting schools during PPA sounds ideal especially if I try and squeeze it towards the end of the day. I do think the way the headteachers show you around the school does have an impact on the level of comfort and everything.

    Just curious with regards to the application process. Have most people started completely from scratch when writing new applications to different schools? I understand the need to personalise however it does seem like some examples would be relevant in both applications.
    I started from scratch until I got an interview, then tried to keep it similar.

    However, how I did it was to try and keep the balance of what I discussed/links to the school/intro and conclusion quite similar but still wrote a list of everything from the person spec or job ad for that specific job and went through highlighting the bits that related to any of the points. If I didn't have something they'd specifically asked for, the non-highlighted bits would be the first to go.

    xxx
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    (Original post by bellylaugh)
    Yep I have a three year old too. Just coming to the end of my PGCE (on the SDS route)...I'm exhausted to say the least! Feel free to DM me any questions you might have
    Well done for getting through it. Thank's I'll DM you.
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    Thank you! x

    I know I was giving you similar advise days before but I didn't like the swift change in manners at the beginning he was very nice and pleasant at the end wanted me out and was like see yourself out please as if to say you wasted our time get out.

    Is there such a thing as overpreparing? I planned so much for this then got nervous began stuttering etc..

    Everything happens for a reason though I have had a good cry lol
    Sorry to hear about the interview. However it does seem like you probably dodged a bullet if that is the attitude he has towards people.

    I don't have a job myself however I like this advice that my university mentor gave me with regards to the whole application process. This was when I was stressing over coming across 'right' in my applications and presentations.

    "Just be yourself when it comes to the interview. It's about finding a school that also suits your personality."

    Might not be very useful but I'm sure we'll all find something eventually. The NQT year is important in how it to decides whether teaching is for you in the long run. >.<
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    (Original post by kpwxx)
    Hugs!

    I hate applying for jobs!! And the teaching part of interviews I always just found horrible (apart from the one where I got the job where I actually had to interact with the children leading their play, which is the majority of an Early Years teachers job, then I was so much more comfortable!). I think all schools would be better to just get teachers to read a story or interact with the children during free time or similar, so they can see how they really move on learning, rather than lead a whole class/group of children they've never met and know nothing about... it's very high pressure and I'm sure many brilliant teachers have nerves get to them like you did.

    I wouldn't say you can over prepare as such but if you feel like preparing is making you too nervous/stressed, take a break and just do something completely different. This will help stop you getting worked up. And remind yourself, like airfairy said, this is just one job, one option, it's not the be all and end all!

    Good luck.
    Thank you!

    It's true logically if I think about it my 10 months worth of sweat blood and tears literally cannot be thrown down the drain with someone's opinion of what they saw in 50 mins worth of a lesson. I have another interview on Thursday - let's hope I don't screw this up too lol. xx

    (Original post by Tombola)
    Sorry to hear about the interview. However it does seem like you probably dodged a bullet if that is the attitude he has towards people.

    I don't have a job myself however I like this advice that my university mentor gave me with regards to the whole application process. This was when I was stressing over coming across 'right' in my applications and presentations.

    "Just be yourself when it comes to the interview. It's about finding a school that also suits your personality."

    Might not be very useful but I'm sure we'll all find something eventually. The NQT year is important in how it to decides whether teaching is for you in the long run. >.<
    Thank you for that

    Indeed it is very true - still hurts but I'm over it, onwards and upwards. A lot of people say that you need to find the right school for you.
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    I got feedback from my interview today. She said my lesson was excellent and was the best of all the candidates. She said the pupil panel let me down slightly. She said overall my numerical interview scores were 1 mark lower than the candidate who got it. She told me I did nothing wrong and that if there is another vacancy at the school then I should definitely apply and that I should just keep on doing what I'm doing in interviews.

    It is nice to know I didn't majorly balls up, but it is frustrating to know that there was someone who was just able to answer better than me. I guess I'll just keep practicing my mock interviews.
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    Just sobbed my heart out at my ITT co-coordinator, like proper hideous sobbing. I'm so tired and stressed and my uni mentor is making me feel like the worst teacher in the world.
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    Just sobbed my heart out at my ITT co-coordinator, like proper hideous sobbing. I'm so tired and stressed and my uni mentor is making me feel like the worst teacher in the world.
    Awww I'm sorry to hear that. People don't seem to understand that there is only so much constant criticism we can take.

    What did your ITT coordinator say?

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    (Original post by Sam89)
    Thank you!It's true logically if I think about it my 10 months worth of sweat blood and tears literally cannot be thrown down the drain with someone's opinion of what they saw in 50 mins worth of a lesson. I have another interview on Thursday - let's hope I don't screw this up too lol. xx
    if it's any consolation I absolutely bombed an interview and got the next one I interviewed for a few days later. The first one was so terrible I sat in my car weeping for about an hour. There were FIVE jobs and four candidates at interview and I still wasn't offered it - they readvertised. It was a truly awful day. I was there about eight hours, waited three and a half hours for my interview in the staff room and a kid even wolf-whistled me when I was on my tour of the school. The actual interview left me I bits - one guy on the panel seemed intent on playing 'bad cop' and kept trying to catch me out and I left feeling humiliated and really embarrassed by some of my answers and falterings.

    We all had to wait outside the head's office while he made his mind up with the panel, then they called us in one by one. I was first so I knew I was for the chopping block. I then had to walk out past all the other candidates at reception - like a walk of shame. I felt like I should be wearing a scarf and carrying a wheelie bag to a black cab like on the Apprentice.

    I felt like I would never teach again, but I had a completely different experience and got a job three days later at a super school.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Awww I'm sorry to hear that. People don't seem to understand that there is only so much constant criticism we can take.

    What did your ITT coordinator say?

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    She was lovely and offered to check my teaching and my folders over the next two days to make me feel a little more confident and to just feel confident about going into uni on Monday.

    My school are giving me such great feedback, my department say I'm great and I'll be a brilliant teacher but my uni tutor apparently doesn't agree with anything.
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    (Original post by bonniex123)
    if it's any consolation I absolutely bombed an interview and got the next one I interviewed for a few days later. The first one was so terrible I sat in my car weeping for about an hour. There were FIVE jobs and four candidates at interview and I still wasn't offered it - they readvertised. It was a truly awful day. I was there about eight hours, waited three and a half hours for my interview in the staff room and a kid even wolf-whistled me when I was on my tour of the school. The actual interview left me I bits - one guy on the panel seemed intent on playing 'bad cop' and kept trying to catch me out and I left feeling humiliated and really embarrassed by some of my answers and falterings.

    We all had to wait outside the head's office while he made his mind up with the panel, then they called us in one by one. I was first so I knew I was for the chopping block. I then had to walk out past all the other candidates at reception - like a walk of shame. I felt like I should be wearing a scarf and carrying a wheelie bag to a black cab like on the Apprentice.

    I felt like I would never teach again, but I had a completely different experience and got a job three days later at a super school.
    I can't thank you enough for this. The way you described it is exactly how I felt in my interview yesterday - it was a horrific experience I felt so exposed and that my work has gone to waste. Mentor checked over my lesson for tomorrow's interview I hope this is better else I really will fall to pieces
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    Just sobbed my heart out at my ITT co-coordinator, like proper hideous sobbing. I'm so tired and stressed and my uni mentor is making me feel like the worst teacher in the world.
    I've done this a fair few times this term.. Why don't people see it as were the current 'year 7s' in terms of of teaching careers how can you expect someone in year 7 to have the skills of a 6th former? (Saw this on the guardian hit a cord with me).

    Hope it all gets better for you xx
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    I've done this a fair few times this term.. Why don't people see it as were the current 'year 7s' in terms of of teaching careers how can you expect someone in year 7 to have the skills of a 6th former? (Saw this on the guardian hit a cord with me).

    Hope it all gets better for you xx
    Very well put. When you are actually doing the job, you will be appalled that the very people who tell you to be encouraging to the kids can be like Hitler to the staff. They are often the same ones who will spend an entire INSET day exhorting you to use some exciting and innovative teaching methodology by the method of standing there and lecturing you.
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    I've done this a fair few times this term.. Why don't people see it as were the current 'year 7s' in terms of of teaching careers how can you expect someone in year 7 to have the skills of a 6th former? (Saw this on the guardian hit a cord with me).

    Hope it all gets better for you xx
    And you too. I'll be okay, feeling a bit better. Just worried because I don't know what's causing the issue with my uni mentor. My school all love me

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