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    (Original post by SpottedZebra)
    Sorry, i hope you dont mind but a few more questions have popped into my head!

    What does the training involve? How long does it take?
    Are there any expenses for you for things like uniform etc?
    Is it common to be dealing with serious injuries or is it mainly cuts, bruises etc?

    Thank you!
    Hey! No it's absolutely fine!

    I don't know about TFA because it wasn't around when I qualified! I'm almost certain i'm going to miss things out and i'm not sure if it's changed at all! I'll list AFA (advanced first aider) and PTA as well as you up your skills a considerable amount with these levels

    Ah just found my booklet of units .. this is helpful!

    FA; abdominal pain, AED, anaphylaxis, communication and casualty care, primary surveys, resuscitation of all ages, asthma, bites and stings, bleeding and bruising (minor and major), bone, muscle and joint injuries, burns and scalds (minor and major), outdoor casualty management, chest pain, childhood conditions (meningitis recognition), choking (all ages), documentation, confidentiality, consent and capacity, eye injuries, fainting, foreign objects, head injuries, health and safety, temperature extremes, infection control, low blood sugar, poisons, risk assessments, secondary surveys, seizures, shock, spinal injuries (without equipment), sprains and strains, stroke, structure and policies.

    It seems like a lot but it's very digestible! Let me know if you have any questions on that bunch! :L And if you decide to go on ..

    AFA; Body temperature, blood pressure (manually and electronically), use of splints, medical gases (oxygen, entonox), moving and handling (ambulance trolleys, carry chairs/wheelchairs, carry sheets, folding stretcher), patient care positioning, removing crash helmets, spinal immobilisation using collars.

    PTA; Ambulance skills (hygiene, contact with bodily fluids, deceased patients), assisting the HCP, bariatric casualties, consent and mental capacity acts, malnutrition and dehydration, child protection, premature babies ad incubators, full resuscitation with bag valve mask, transporting patients (carrying someone down 4 flights of stairs in a carry chair .. boo!), orthopaedic stretcher, vehicle inspection and documentation.

    You don't learn heaps of new skills as you advance but you gain a hell of a lot of responsibility within duties! Training for each course usually takes 2/3 days however you're constantly refreshing and practising at your units

    Nope, no expenses as far as I recall! Uniform is supplied by SJA. I bought my boots but I think they've started paying for those too these days! :L

    It really depends on your duties. Two of my experiences.

    1. School fete .. zero casualties in 6 hours.

    2. Bonfire duty (in charge of treatment centre .. aka drunk tank! :L) 7 casualties at one point, all heavily intoxicated. All kinds of problems from cuts from falling over to hypothermia, low oxygen saturation, unconscious, impaired airways.

    So yeah, really depends on the kind of duty you get involved with

    Hope this helps! x
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    (Original post by EllaBella<3)
    Hey! No it's absolutely fine!

    I don't know about TFA because it wasn't around when I qualified! I'm almost certain i'm going to miss things out and i'm not sure if it's changed at all! I'll list AFA (advanced first aider) and PTA as well as you up your skills a considerable amount with these levels

    Ah just found my booklet of units .. this is helpful!

    FA; abdominal pain, AED, anaphylaxis, communication and casualty care, primary surveys, resuscitation of all ages, asthma, bites and stings, bleeding and bruising (minor and major), bone, muscle and joint injuries, burns and scalds (minor and major), outdoor casualty management, chest pain, childhood conditions (meningitis recognition), choking (all ages), documentation, confidentiality, consent and capacity, eye injuries, fainting, foreign objects, head injuries, health and safety, temperature extremes, infection control, low blood sugar, poisons, risk assessments, secondary surveys, seizures, shock, spinal injuries (without equipment), sprains and strains, stroke, structure and policies.

    It seems like a lot but it's very digestible! Let me know if you have any questions on that bunch! :L And if you decide to go on ..

    AFA; Body temperature, blood pressure (manually and electronically), use of splints, medical gases (oxygen, entonox), moving and handling (ambulance trolleys, carry chairs/wheelchairs, carry sheets, folding stretcher), patient care positioning, removing crash helmets, spinal immobilisation using collars.

    PTA; Ambulance skills (hygiene, contact with bodily fluids, deceased patients), assisting the HCP, bariatric casualties, consent and mental capacity acts, malnutrition and dehydration, child protection, premature babies ad incubators, full resuscitation with bag valve mask, transporting patients (carrying someone down 4 flights of stairs in a carry chair .. boo!), orthopaedic stretcher, vehicle inspection and documentation.

    You don't learn heaps of new skills as you advance but you gain a hell of a lot of responsibility within duties! Training for each course usually takes 2/3 days however you're constantly refreshing and practising at your units

    Nope, no expenses as far as I recall! Uniform is supplied by SJA. I bought my boots but I think they've started paying for those too these days! :L

    It really depends on your duties. Two of my experiences.

    1. School fete .. zero casualties in 6 hours.

    2. Bonfire duty (in charge of treatment centre .. aka drunk tank! :L) 7 casualties at one point, all heavily intoxicated. All kinds of problems from cuts from falling over to hypothermia, low oxygen saturation, unconscious, impaired airways.

    So yeah, really depends on the kind of duty you get involved with

    Hope this helps! x
    Thank you so do you get trained at the centre near you or do you have to go away somewhere? is there a group of you all getting trained at once?

    Did you find you were eased into it all gently enough or do you ever feel like you are being thrown in at the deep end?
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    (Original post by SpottedZebra)
    Thank you so do you get trained at the centre near you or do you have to go away somewhere? is there a group of you all getting trained at once?

    Did you find you were eased into it all gently enough or do you ever feel like you are being thrown in at the deep end?
    It's usually as close to you as possible. I had to travel an hour on the train but it's still relatively close Yes, you will be in a group of people from different units; some may be from your specific unit so will meet people

    I attended meetings for six months before I did my training so I had already been taught the course virtually so yes, eased in gently One time I was thrown in the deep end was my first duty having qualified as a PTA. I was put in charge of our busiest treatment centre with 3 under 18's. It basically happened due to a last minute sickness phone call. I felt hugely under pressure. Not only was I concerned for the welfare and treatment of our casualties but I also had to ensure the safety of my colleagues who were largely inexperienced at such a duty. One of our patients was high on drugs; very violent, confused but also injured. I couldn't allow a 16/17yr old treat such a patient, however, other patients required my skills such as administering oxygen etc. You're taught to recognise when you're out of your depth though so it's easy to ask for back up
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    (Original post by EllaBella<3)
    It's usually as close to you as possible. I had to travel an hour on the train but it's still relatively close Yes, you will be in a group of people from different units; some may be from your specific unit so will meet people

    I attended meetings for six months before I did my training so I had already been taught the course virtually so yes, eased in gently One time I was thrown in the deep end was my first duty having qualified as a PTA. I was put in charge of our busiest treatment centre with 3 under 18's. It basically happened due to a last minute sickness phone call. I felt hugely under pressure. Not only was I concerned for the welfare and treatment of our casualties but I also had to ensure the safety of my colleagues who were largely inexperienced at such a duty. One of our patients was high on drugs; very violent, confused but also injured. I couldn't allow a 16/17yr old treat such a patient, however, other patients required my skills such as administering oxygen etc. You're taught to recognise when you're out of your depth though so it's easy to ask for back up
    Thanks so much for the advice
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    Is anyone going on the South Wales regional cadet challenge in St. Madoc in april?? :-)


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    I've started my role as an Assistant Youth Leader and I love the role. It's such a great opportunity and altough I had to wait 9 months to start the role it was worth it.
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    Hi! i've been a St John Ambulance volunteer for nearly 2 1/2 years in South Wales. Just been accepted for a Child Nursing course too! x
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    (Original post by ahindley)
    Hi! i've been a St John Ambulance volunteer for nearly 2 1/2 years in South Wales. Just been accepted for a Child Nursing course too! x
    Awesome, which uni will you be going to? I do Adult Nursing about to start my first placement - eek!
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    Might be a stupid question, but I'm just filling out my Health Declaration Form for the SJA application and I don't think I've had a BCG jab. Can I just put 'no' or should I go and get it done (trying to avoid being stabbed by a needle here ).
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    Might be a stupid question, but I'm just filling out my Health Declaration Form for the SJA application and I don't think I've had a BCG jab. Can I just put 'no' or should I go and get it done (trying to avoid being stabbed by a needle here ).
    Just put no and you shouldn't need to have one done (it does cost a fair bit). You may be able to get a free one later on with SJA.
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    Hi, I'm a member of St John Ambulance in Belfast, Northern Ireland. The Ormeau Division (Adult - 16+) in Belfast is one of the largest divisions in Northern Ireland. We have great relations with Belfast's Trust and frequently get called in for Emergency Transport Duties and Doctor Urgent Calls, a reasonable portion of these require blue light runs!

    Anyway I've been a member since October and am still going through my training, although I'm always offered to go out as a third person on said blue light runs! It's a great experience and would highly recommend joining it to anyone who has even a mild interest in healthcare!

    If anyone has any questions about SJA or any more specific inquiries about SJA in the Northern Ireland region then feel free to ask here or even PM me.
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    (Original post by KingGoonIan)
    Just put no and you shouldn't need to have one done (it does cost a fair bit). You may be able to get a free one later on with SJA.
    There is form you can get from SJA which entitles you to (some) free jabs, i can't remember exactly what they were, I think one might have been happatitis C or B.

    If you have any questions about SJA feel free to ask me x
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    Sent my application off about 3 days ago, quite exited Bit worried about what my referees might say though ;/
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    God I hate requals
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    Our division just spent around £10k on a new a set of digital radios, which is all good. Apart from the fact that out of 50 people only 2 people can use them after the radio course. :/ Time to read the instructions.
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    Our division just spent around £10k on a new a set of digital radios, which is all good. Apart from the fact that out of 50 people only 2 people can use them after the radio course. :/ Time to read the instructions.
    interesting statement on a number of basis.
    Assuming (mainland) PoE+I :
    1. Divisions would no longer be purchasing radios under current procurement rules

    2. SJA radio licences do not cover 'digital' modes. (except as a secondary user of NHS sponsored Airwave)

    3.I strongly suspect that the RM logistics and RRCO would not release radios to use without proper training.
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    (Original post by zippyRN)
    interesting statement on a number of basis.
    Assuming (mainland) PoE+I :
    1. Divisions would no longer be purchasing radios under current procurement rules

    2. SJA radio licences do not cover 'digital' modes. (except as a secondary user of NHS sponsored Airwave)

    3.I strongly suspect that the RM logistics and RRCO would not release radios to use without proper training.
    Okay...

    1) We're not mainland, we're in Northern Ireland and we most definitely bought digital radios as our old ones having been dying off (only two handhelds left).

    2) We're the first division in NI to go digital (Superintendent says), NI might have a different set of licenses? I have no idea if these radios are encrypted for airwave, I'll assume not as when I was having a go with it I never heard any radio chatter on any of the channels bar our own private one were everyone was talking to each other and sending text messages to each other. :awesome:

    3) I'm not sure what you're suggesting?

    I can take a picture if you'd like? Haha Although I'm not really sure what your point is, are you insinuating that I'm lying? :confused:
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    (Original post by 01Chris02)
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    3) I'm not sure what you're suggesting?

    I can take a picture if you'd like? Haha Although I'm not really sure what your point is, are you insinuating that I'm lying? :confused:

    my point is that as the Commandery of Ards , even as part of PoE+I pre-mainland regionalisation did their own thing on a lot of things , it;'s important that people point out where they are posting in respect of

    SJABofI , SJCW and the Commandery of Ards which within TSRs core remit are seperate from PoE+I as a whole - even if the commandery of Ards is technically part of PoE+I .... the other 'Islands' in PoE+I have stuck closer to PoE+I policy and where there is variation the respective individuals have been clear to point out why.
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    (Original post by zippyRN)
    my point is that as the Commandery of Ards , even as part of PoE+I pre-mainland regionalisation did their own thing on a lot of things , it;'s important that people point out where they are posting in respect of

    SJABofI , SJCW and the Commandery of Ards which within TSRs core remit are seperate from PoE+I as a whole - even if the commandery of Ards is technically part of PoE+I .... the other 'Islands' in PoE+I have stuck closer to PoE+I policy and where there is variation the respective individuals have been clear to point out why.
    I did mention that I was from NI just a few posts ago, was on the same page and all!
    (Original post by 01Chris02)
    Hi, I'm a member of St John Ambulance in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
    Regardless, I am still at a loss as to what your original point was, before you knew I was from NI? It sounded quite snide if I'm being honest, very 'matter of factly'. Although please forgive me if I'm mistaken.
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    Too many snide and pompous individuals in St John; they need to remember its a voluntary organisation.
 
 
 
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