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TSR MHoC General Election March 2013 watch

  • View Poll Results: TSR MHoC General election. Cast your vote:
    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
    110
    18.09%
    TSR Green Party
    77
    12.66%
    TSR Labour Party
    131
    21.55%
    TSR Liberal Party
    53
    8.72%
    TSR Libertarian Party
    46
    7.57%
    TSR Socialist Party
    69
    11.35%
    tehFrance
    36
    5.92%
    TSR UKIP
    69
    11.35%
    Spoilt Ballot
    17
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    You sound like a broken record.
    We broke him after the water and railway nationalisations.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    If it helps, the Liberal civil liberties policies are largely shared by the Libertarians, in that some of them were generously donated from our last manifesto, while others are just things we already passed (we already repealed stop and search).
    "Me Lord, this is day light robbery", cried the plaintiff.

    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    We will also be attempting to ensure freedom of speech through the bill of rights we will be putting forward for incorporation into the constitution of the house (following a referendum) in the next term.
    Who has stopped you from speaking freely, son? Bill of Rights, you say? Didn't that nice Tory man speak about this before? Make sure you vote for them Tories like your Daddy always do, and his Daddy, and Grand Pa before him, ok?
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    The socialists also authored the legislation which got rid of state funded faith schools. We liked that.
    Very true, ensuring everyone has an equal chance of education regardless of their faith
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    A question for the Green Party, when you say
    "Introduce compulsory foreign language tuition as well as focusing on providing for smaller schools with more freedom for students and teachers."
    How are you going to tackle this? We currently have a baby boom approaching us, so it won't be easy to simply provide smaller schools, plus you have faith schools which have specialist entry, so simply building more schools might not be the only solution. Also, how will you encourage the high demand for foreign language teachers?
    This policy is a key interest for me, since I study languages (Well, French at AS) and looking at how other countries seem to grasp English rather quickly does make me wonder how this could work in the UK (although the Libertarians 'got me' when they mentioned "We will introduce computer coding into the national curriculum - equipping children for the future."

    (I'm not so knowledgeable when it comes to this, so apologies in advance if all this sounds rather ghastly to the more experienced TSR members)
    Hey, thanks for the question. Certainly building more and better-equipped schools is part of the solution. Everyone agrees that education is important, but no one is willing to give our kids the investment they deserve. When we look abroad at education in countries that are getting it right, we see teachers with competitive salaries, compulsory foreign language education, high quality tuition from teachers who care about their field, well-equipped facilities and schools that treat their students with respect and not simply as statistics. These countries aren't richer than us, but they understand the importance of investing in children and form their policy accordingly.

    In terms of meeting the demand for foreign language teachers, we will do so by offering a subsidised scheme for speakers of foreign languages to train to become teachers. This training will be overseen by a scheme body whose purpose is to train teachers to use techniques that work - there will be no rote-memorisation, but methods of instruction that take advantage of children's natural ability to absorb language, and will promote the use of tools and technologies that allow children to communicate with fluent speakers.

    I also believe in computer science instruction in schools. Computer science is becoming one of the most important fields in the 21st century; it makes no sense to me to bar children from it, who time and again prove themselves quite capable, and instead bore them to death with spreadsheets. Programming likewise - although not everyone will exhibit a proclivity or an ability with it, we would do well to encourage an understanding of how programs work. Above all, all our teachers must have a passion and enthusiasm for their subject, or else we will only be teaching children how not to enjoy their education and continue our country's educational apathy.

    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    Also, by "Introduce legal and social equality for all," What are your policies towards a secular government?

    This election is quite interesting, but my vote is clashing with Liberals, Libertarians and the Greens...(Unless someone can persuade me to vote for their party, it is possible )
    As Thunder and Jazz mentioned, we are against the Lords Spiritual. I'm also against special funding for faith schools, tax exemptions for religious institutions, and the discrimination of children's entry to schools based on their parents' religion. Religion should not be granted special status in this country - the Greens believe in equality and so we will back everyone's rights equally, not give any individual group special privilege.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    I don't really see the issue, civil liberties aside our policies are quite different.

    Civil liberties are not exclusively owned by your party, and I'm surprised so many of you are moaning that we "stole" your ideas given that your manifesto is mainly concerned with completely different issues: computer coding, brownfield development and opposing nationalisation.
    It's mostly because, excepting those bits which we already implemented (repealing stop and search), the rest of your civil liberties section is lifted from our previous manifesto. It just seems a little cheap is all.
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    (Original post by dj_macky)
    "Me Lord, this is day light robbery", cried the plaintiff.



    Who has stopped you from speaking freely, son? Bill of Rights, you say? Didn't that nice Tory man speak about this before? Make sure you vote for them Tories like your Daddy always do, and his Daddy, and Grand Pa before him, ok?
    The Bill of rights will be an attempt to ensure that the MHoC is bound by a basic framework of human rights when making laws, which is necessary in the MHoC model because we don't have any real feedback on our actions. In the real world, if we passed a law banning, for example, interracial marriage, we would face massive opposition from both the people of Britain and the international community, but here there is no such response. As such I feel that we need a binding bill of rights, if only to keep the house from wandering off into absurdity.
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    I finally voted, after sleeping over it.
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I finally voted, after sleeping over it.
    Who for? If you don't mind me asking
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I finally voted, after sleeping over it.
    I too am curious.
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    (Original post by miser)
    I too am curious.
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
    A coalition involving the socialists and libertarians? :eek:

    Also please feel free to join the Greens
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
    If you like our policies on display here, you might appreciate being involved in some of the ones we still have in the works. If you'd like to join the Green Party, apply to the usergroup and I will let you in.

    Thanks for the vote, much appreciated.
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
    Pah that coalition would certainly be something :lol: two parties of centre men backed by one lefty party and one righty party.
    The greens and liberals would work fine but us Socialists and Libers may disagree a teeny weeny bit
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
    :laugh: the socialists would never form a coalition with either the libers or the liberals. We only went in with Labour (who are closer to us than any of them) after they made a load of concessions to us.

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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
    Ta muchly
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    Yeah I don't think a coalition could work between us and the socialists. Sorry to disappoint guys!
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    I don't know if I'm reading to much into this but the rules post says "The D&CA moderation team believes that the MHoC is an excellent way for users to get involved with structured and formal debates as well as to become better acquainted with the workings of the British system of parliamentary democracy." The D&CA moderation team. What about TSR Staff, are they anti-MHoC? Or I am I just reading too much into this?
    You're reading too much into it :p:

    We are the division of the wider moderation team which is predominantly responsible for MHoC matters, so it makes more sense for such guidelines to be linked to us rather than a big anonymous entity simply called "TSR"

    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    Well think about it. Everybody else involved is still here and still exactly the same person. The same culture remains. The same structure remains.
    Succinctly put - however, "culture" is subject to external influences and changes over time, which is what we ultimately want to happen here
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    (Original post by tehfrance)
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    Pretty much disagree with everything you ever say, but you've got my vote
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    (Original post by Fool In The Rain)
    I voted for the Greens, miser's response just set it in really. But I was really strained between the Greens, Liberals, Socialists and Libertarians (if it was up to me, they should all win, a.k.a coalition, imagine a 4 party coalition :rolleyes:). However, after this ordeal, should I call it that. I have become more interested in the MHoC and am considering joining a party.
    I expected you'd end up with the greens. Thanks for taking the time to consider the options and taking an interest in the house. It'd be great to see more people involved in the house.
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    (Original post by nixonsjellybeans)
    Pah that coalition would certainly be something :lol: two parties of centre men backed by one lefty party and one righty party.
    The greens and liberals would work fine but us Socialists and Libers may disagree a teeny weeny bit
    Occasionally, yes. Though I find us oddly close on many social issues (we seem to be the most secularist parties, for example, from glancing through hansard.
 
 
 
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