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    I got a job interview today for BTEC Business Studies, and I've never studied business in my life. I'm a little confused! I applied for A-Level Economics and they rang me, said they want to shortlist but wanted to warn me it is now BTEC Business. I just said yes without thinking but I am majorly confused why they would shortlist me for something I have zero experience in!

    I mean, I am an adaptable person, but this seems a stretch...
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    Very well put. When you are actually doing the job, you will be appalled that the very people who tell you to be encouraging to the kids can be like Hitler to the staff. They are often the same ones who will spend an entire INSET day exhorting you to use some exciting and innovative teaching methodology by the method of standing there and lecturing you.
    This is very true. Head teachers have often risen to the top because they can teach children. That doesn't mean they can manage people. My degree is in early years management and I learnt so much and therefore see major flaws in the management of the school I am at. It is really sad really.

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    (Original post by Pineapple pie)
    This is very true. Head teachers have often risen to the top because they can teach children. That doesn't mean they can manage people. My degree is in early years management and I learnt so much and therefore see major flaws in the management of the school I am at. It is really sad really.

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    My CfC is being reviewed this week. Was told I would get a lot of support but haven't heard anything from uni since I was given it. Luckily my school mentor is amazing and I feel I've made progress but I feel sick with nerves about the observed lesson the uni are doing! It's affecting my sleep (keep having nightmares about sleeping in and being late for things) which in turn is affecting my planning and teaching. Wish I could just take 24 hours out!
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    Airy. .. Look up the BTEC for the curriculum overview to see what you do actually know as it might be more than you think! They must like your application Orpheus wouldn't have called.


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    Going through my folders and weeping softly at how much I still have to do.

    Still embarrassed about the sobbing too.

    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I got a job interview today for BTEC Business Studies, and I've never studied business in my life. I'm a little confused! I applied for A-Level Economics and they rang me, said they want to shortlist but wanted to warn me it is now BTEC Business. I just said yes without thinking but I am majorly confused why they would shortlist me for something I have zero experience in!

    I mean, I am an adaptable person, but this seems a stretch...
    There might be quite a bit of crossover. Business is my second subject - I've just sort of absorbed it all.
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    Going through my folders and weeping softly at how much I still have to do.Still embarrassed about the sobbing too.
    Don't worry, I am the biggest pgce cry baby of them all. I cried loads last week in front of my ITTC about a difficult class.

    I have also nearly cried in front of classes a few times when things have been awful. It's a very emotional job and the exhaustion doesn't help - it makes me really wobbly.
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    Had my first at school cry today. I know it's a rite of passage.

    I was crying so much I couldn't teach my lesson because I couldn't stop. Had to tell the other trainee to let my mentor know I needed to be on my own.

    It's all because of one stupid class that have made me feel like total crap. I hate them so much.

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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Had my first at school cry today. I know it's a rite of passage.

    I was crying so much I couldn't teach my lesson because I couldn't stop. Had to tell the other trainee to let my mentor know I needed to be on my own.

    It's all because of one stupid class that have made me feel like total crap. I hate them so much.

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    What happened? My mentor told me children cannot only bully other children but they can bully the teacher too if they find something to target.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    Very well put. When you are actually doing the job, you will be appalled that the very people who tell you to be encouraging to the kids can be like Hitler to the staff. They are often the same ones who will spend an entire INSET day exhorting you to use some exciting and innovative teaching methodology by the method of standing there and lecturing you.
    I have seen this myself - one of the girls on my course has several young kids and as well as being a full time mother and wife she's training to become a teacher, her mentor expects lesson plans to be in a week before they're due then sends them back correcting her mistakes for her to send back and this cycle continues at least 3-4 times. The girl in question sat on her chair once (in the staff room) and she EXPLODED! How dare she sit on my chair! 'MY' chair, then she says you're not allowed to take equipment home because I don't trust you. Like we've paid 9K in fees to steal stuff - seriously?

    This is the worst case of 'mentor' I have ever seen, makes my bad experiences seem okay, but poor girl she's got through it and the end is near.

    We name these people TORMENTORS! (pun intended) Seriously hope they see the error of their ways, though I never wish bad upon anyone some people need it to be slapped in their face.
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    What happened? My mentor told me children cannot only bully other children but they can bully the teacher too if they find something to target.
    I just can't control them at all and they feed on it. My mentor has given me tips but nothing is working. Worse still, I was on track for a 1 but my mentor said I can't get a 1 if I can't control this class.

    My behaviour management is normally based on my strong relationship with the pupils, which is said to be one of my strengths. But I hate this class and they hate me, so I can't build up a relationship with a class so unlikable, meaning I've lost my key strength here.

    It sounds pathetic to cry over a class. I just feel they are holding me back and making me realise how crap I am.

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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I just can't control them at all and they feed on it. My mentor has given me tips but nothing is working. Worse still, I was on track for a 1 but my mentor said I can't get a 1 if I can't control this class.

    My behaviour management is normally based on my strong relationship with the pupils, which is said to be one of my strengths. But I hate this class and they hate me, so I can't build up a relationship with a class so unlikable, meaning I've lost my key strength here.

    It sounds pathetic to cry over a class. I just feel they are holding me back and making me realise how crap I am.

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    I could have written this post, and I'm an NQT! Today I cried at lunch because of my y9's who I hate. They hate me. Like you, my strength during my PGCE and this year was creating a strong relationship with my classes. I don't have one inch of a relationship with this class and today was 1 hour of pure hell with them. No constructive advice but I do feel your pain! xx
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    I have two weeks to go and its going to be a hard slog of two weeks, i feel like theres so much to do still!!!
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    (Original post by Sam89)
    I have seen this myself - one of the girls on my course has several young kids and as well as being a full time mother and wife she's training to become a teacher, her mentor expects lesson plans to be in a week before they're due then sends them back correcting her mistakes for her to send back and this cycle continues at least 3-4 times. The girl in question sat on her chair once (in the staff room) and she EXPLODED! How dare she sit on my chair! 'MY' chair, then she says you're not allowed to take equipment home because I don't trust you. Like we've paid 9K in fees to steal stuff - seriously?

    This is the worst case of 'mentor' I have ever seen, makes my bad experiences seem okay, but poor girl she's got through it and the end is near.

    We name these people TORMENTORS! (pun intended) Seriously hope they see the error of their ways, though I never wish bad upon anyone some people need it to be slapped in their face.
    I feel very sad that this has been your experience. In my years as a mentor, I really hope I never forgot how it felt to be a trainee. It has to be said that the choice of subject mentor is not always the most suitable one to do the job but often the one with a short timetable or the loudest voice or some other factor. It's a difficult job to do well, and I gave it up when I felt I wasn't doing it well enough. There's no excuse for being anything other than totally supportive. It's a hard enough profession once you've qualified, so making people's life hell before they enter it smacks of lashing out at someone as a form of displacement activity. I know for sure that if I was starting out again now, I wouldn't get through the PGCE and I don't think I'd actually want to.
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    (Original post by outlaw-torn)
    I could have written this post, and I'm an NQT! Today I cried at lunch because of my y9's who I hate. They hate me. Like you, my strength during my PGCE and this year was creating a strong relationship with my classes. I don't have one inch of a relationship with this class and today was 1 hour of pure hell with them. No constructive advice but I do feel your pain! xx
    Well it's nice to know I'm not alone, but I'm sorry you're feeling the same. It's not a nice feeling. When you are in that lesson there's a trademark feeling you get when you know it's going badly and it's awful. You just want to crawl into a hole and not come out - but no, you've got to endure that awful feeling for the whole lesson.
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    I need advice on this though. What do I do?

    I have a class on year 8s who aren't naughty, but there is CONSTANT background chatter and I can't get them to shut up. The problem is there are too many who are doing this to use my usual methods. My mentor told me that writing names on the board and pinpointing them won't work because it is about 80% of the class who are talking. I can't keep them all in either because that punishes the 20%. Whenever I get them quiet it literally is noisy again after seconds. Nothing I say or do will get them to be quiet. What do I do?

    I saw my mentor teach them for one lesson today and they were fine for her yet she does nothing different. I am convinced I just don't have chemistry with this class and that the lack of relationship means I'm never going to be able to control them. Is this true?

    I've tried everything my mentor has said but it is hard to do on a class wide basis. She tells me to state the obvious - "you're talking over me", but I can't say that to the whole class because it means nothing. It is good for just one but not all. Then things like moving around the class when trying to get them quiet because they need a physical presence - made no difference. Competition with points on desks today - made no difference.
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    It is difficult but it really is about building an ethos of mutual respect which is really hard for a student teacher to achieve, especially if it has gone on for a wee while. Rewarding good behaviour does work but it can take time to establish. Is your mentor in when you teach to observe and give feedback as that would be most useful really?

    Are you really clear and pointed with your learning intentions and success criteria so they know exactly what they are learning and if they are succeeding as that is really useful too as it can motivate them? Make sure it is something achievable within the one lesson are are active and interesting. For example I wanted a class to hold a debate so I mocked up a newspaper article saying that they were going to use wave power on the coast at the beach and the beach would be closed all summer. They were livid and really motivated. I did tell them before at the end of the lesson , after pointing out how they had been really successful, that I had made it up!

    Hope this helps...


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