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    (Original post by carlisomes)
    Cesc is a legend but Santi IMO is better. Has a better work rate and more balls.
    You're drunk, Santi is a wonderful football top 10 players in the prem IMO. But Cesc is another level.
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    (Original post by 419)
    You're highly likely to be the only one of 7 billion plus people that holds this opinion. Santi's work rate is absolutely shocking and is laughable to suggest he has balls let alone say he has more balls than anyone. I like him but he is a luxury player.
    I just think Santi is better and has more balls/determination than Cesc.
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    (Original post by Kruz)
    You're drunk, Santi is a wonderful football top 10 players in the prem IMO. But Cesc is another level.
    Just my view. We don't need Cesc and he'd be redundant.
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    (Original post by carlisomes)
    I just think Santi is better and has more balls/determination than Cesc.
    Santi Cazorla has arguably not had a good game against top opposition once in his 2 years at AFC, he is an absolute flat track bully. Against Liverpool/Chelsea he was one of the players who just went missing and let wave after wave of attacks through.

    Meanwhile I can remember big performances from Cesc vs Barca, AC Milan, Juventus, MOTM at Old Trafford etc etc. Cesc was a big game player for us.
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    Cesc is more of a trophy winning player than Cazorla is
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    (Original post by Kruz)
    You're drunk, Santi is a wonderful football top 10 players in the prem IMO. But Cesc is another level.
    cazorla top 10 in the prem is laughable.

    ozil
    ramsey
    walcott
    aguero
    nasri
    silva
    toure
    van persie
    rooney
    mata
    januzaj
    hazard
    willian
    suarez
    sterling
    sturridge
    gerrard
    lallana
    luke shaw
    ricky lambert


    just a few players off the top of my head countless more ahead of him if we go in to other midfielders and defenders
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    cazorla top 10 in the prem is laughable.

    ozil
    ramsey
    walcott
    aguero
    nasri
    silva
    toure
    van persie
    rooney
    mata
    januzaj
    hazard
    willian
    suarez
    sterling
    sturridge
    gerrard
    lallana
    luke shaw
    ricky lambert


    just a few players off the top of my head countless more ahead of him if we go in to other midfielders and defenders
    agree with rest pretty much but lol, go to bed if you think januzaj is better.
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    (Original post by Kim-Jong-Illest)
    agree with rest pretty much but lol, go to bed if you think januzaj is better.
    has their been much between them this season? you could probably count cazorlas good games on one hand this season he had one good month but for a long time everyone wanted him dropped for podolski/ox
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    Wouldnt say Cazorla had a good season
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Wouldnt say Cazorla had a good season
    Would you say his debut season was better than Ozil's, costing 2.5 times less and playing with lesser quality players?
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    Cazorla had a rough season but wasn't he meant to be our MVP last year?
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    (Original post by Pete_91)
    David Ornstein:

    "Barcelona willing to let Fabregas leave for £30m & his preference is PL return. Arsenal have buy-back option but yet to express any interest"

    He's usually spot on with transfer news.
    I just saw that.

    Surely 30mil would mean they only get 20mil since Arsenal would be entitled to 10mil?

    Bizzare that they want to sell him when Xavi is coming up to the end of his career and Thiago already left the club for Bayern.
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    has their been much between them this season? you could probably count cazorlas good games on one hand this season he had one good month but for a long time everyone wanted him dropped for podolski/ox
    yes there has, despite being played out of position cazorla has been better. januzaj probably more consistent but at a definite lower level.
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    cazorla top 10 in the prem is laughable.

    ozil
    ramsey
    walcott
    aguero
    nasri
    silva
    toure
    van persie
    rooney
    mata
    januzaj
    hazard
    willian
    suarez
    sterling
    sturridge
    gerrard
    lallana
    luke shaw
    ricky lambert


    just a few players off the top of my head countless more ahead of him if we go in to other midfielders and defenders
    do you watch southampton though?
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    (Original post by Kruz)
    You're drunk, Santi is a wonderful football top 10 players in the prem IMO. But Cesc is another level.
    You think? He's a flat track bully from what i've seen, disappears in the big games. He's had an average season which in no way puts him as one of the best footballers in the league imo. He may not even be in Arsenal's top 10...

    edit: baconbutty beat me to it.
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    (Original post by 419)
    do you watch southampton though?
    nope
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    (Original post by Gob Bluth)
    You think? He's a flat track bully from what i've seen, disappears in the big games. He's had an average season which in no way puts him as one of the best footballers in the league imo. He may not even be in Arsenal's top 10...
    I'm not talking about form or anything, I'm saying in general. Last season he was better, but Ozil arrival has helped this season. He's still better than all your midfielders .


    Loool Did Bacon Butty put Januzaj in his top 10 but not Cazorla kl.

    (Original post by Kim-Jong-Illest)
    agree with rest pretty much but lol, go to bed if you think januzaj is better.
    Why is Lallana there I know for sure Cazorla is twice the player he is. Technically, in fact everything.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Wouldnt say Cazorla had a good season
    Of course not, but when you play.

    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Would you say his debut season was better than Ozil's, costing 2.5 times less and playing with lesser quality players?
    Not really, Cazorla was injury free most of his debut season, Ozil had a long term injury and was overplayed.

    It was essentially the same team as well.
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    Someone explain why you're all getting gassed about Cesc again please?

    And lol at the guy who said Cazorla is better.

    edit: right I've seen the tweet, is there anything else?

    Is Ornstein reliable?

    Can't believe it meself, given Xavi's career is ending
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    nope
    You know the next question- so how can you say that shaw, lambert, lallana are better than Lord Cazorla?
 
 
 
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