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What about the firefighters strike over making them work until 70? Would you want a 70 year old coming to save you in a fire???

Strikes are important and shouldn't be stopped.
I meant strikes over pay. I completely support strikes over retirement age.

I agree, strikes should not be stopped. But some (especially tube drivers) take the p*ss

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I agree with Nige, Ray is odds on to become Prime Minister of a minority government.

Unfortunately i fear that the last 9 months or so have seen the Liberals tainted by the left.

As for the term, i expect an unusually active one. I suspect that the Socialists will still be dead but i can see an active right, active government and active unrestrained Greens. I suspect that the right will clean up in by-elections as the left struggle to fill the seats.
I can't see much of an upturn in action in the house really. But I can assure you that the greens have no seat issues, labour might however seeing as they have 15 seats.

I wonder if any government formed will survive the vonc that always seems to happen each term though.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
I may apologise for my comment in about half an hour.
Parties can still be in government and go under reform. Who knows? Anyway I don't mind your comments. I always find them interesting.
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I've lost the plot! And yup, 2 exams done, one tomorrow, what about you?
I think I am soon to join you in losing it /: ah, and I gather you have one tomorrow; good luck! Did they go well? None down yet, all starts on Thursday though D:
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I can't see much of an upturn in action in the house really. But I can assure you that the greens have no seat issues, labour might however seeing as they have 15 seats.

I wonder if any government formed will survive the vonc that always seems to happen each term though.
Don't worry about us, we'll fill all our seats with active MPs. Will probably the roster announce tonight.
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I think what we're getting to here is that the public sector is useless at determining pay rates, and unions are ineffective as a response to that often further rewarding the comparatively well-off rather than helping those who actually are underpaid or have poor working conditions. We really should be paying for tube drivers less (you could fill the jobs with ease), many health care workers more, and giving teachers more sensible working hours. Unfortunately this never happens thanks to vested interests.
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Well, I think that this term will be quite active imo actually!
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Don't worry about us, we'll fill all our seats with active MPs. Will probably the roster announce tonight.
I can't wait then, will give me a chanse to work out who to keep an eye on this term.
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(Original post by Aph)
I can't see much of an upturn in action in the house really. But I can assure you that the greens have no seat issues, labour might however seeing as they have 15 seats.

I wonder if any government formed will survive the vonc that always seems to happen each term though.
Well i still want seat sharing gone as well, so if that passes then more seats will come up for grabs.

Most people call them for stupid reasons and they never go to vote. Only mine in the 14th parliament was resoundingly successful (even the Socialists were refusing to support Labour) but Labour jumped for an election before the vote (though we had prepared for that).
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(Original post by thehistorybore)
I think I am soon to join you in losing it /: ah, and I gather you have one tomorrow; good luck! Did they go well? None down yet, all starts on Thursday though D:
ooh, good luck - and thanks!
They were alright. Tomorrow will be a shambles.
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Well, I think that this term will be quite active imo actually!
Hey, my favourite barman.
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ooh, good luck - and thanks!
They were alright. Tomorrow will be a shambles.
Thank you! Glad to hear, and I'm sure it won't be too bad. Positive thinking and all that!
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I want to see a change forcing all MPs who have a voting record below 75% automatically have their seat up for a by election. This change will force party leaders to manage their MP seats properly by switching in someone more active.
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(Original post by PetrosAC)
I meant strikes over pay. I completely support strikes over retirement age.

I agree, strikes should not be stopped. But some (especially tube drivers) take the p*ss

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It comes down to what the workers see as a reasonable price increase in their wages but the management sometimes don't always agree with it Petros then of course the unions get involved then the next thing there is a strike
If the relevant companies listen more to the workers and meet then halfway with regards to price increases then they wouldn't be any need for strikes
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Well i still want seat sharing gone as well, so if that passes then more seats will come up for grabs.

Most people call them for stupid reasons and they never go to vote. Only mine in the 14th parliament was resoundingly successful (even the Socialists were refusing to support Labour) but Labour jumped for an election before the vote (though we had prepared for that).
But that's easy to get around though.

I thought it did go to vote last term.

I do think that there will be a lot of party infighting this term though.
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Only mine in the 14th parliament was resoundingly successful (even the Socialists were refusing to support Labour) but Labour jumped for an election before the vote (though we had prepared for that).
To this day that remains one of my favourite moments of my time in the House. It just seemed that with careful planning everything we wanted came to fruition!
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(Original post by thehistorybore)
Thank you! Glad to hear, and I'm sure it won't be too bad. Positive thinking and all that!
I'm gonna have to get up so early in the morning to revise. I've no idea if I know this or not.
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At the very least over 50% of all members eligible to vote on striking action must be in favour of a strike for it to be legal. I do not support a small group of union radicals holding everyone to ransom on the back of a strike ballot with a 40% turnout. On the London Underground situation, I would fire all of the drivers and replace them with computers like we see on monorails. London Underground drives are paid £40,000 per year to sit down all day pushing buttons when the train enters a station; hardly justifies the current pay, yet they demand more.
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(Original post by Aph)
What about the firefighters strike over making them work until 70? Would you want a 70 year old coming to save you in a fire???

Strikes are important and shouldn't be stopped.
Retirement age needs to go up, and firefighters shouldn't be exempt from that supposing they remain physically fit enough to do the job.
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At the very least over 50% of all members eligible to vote on striking action must be in favour of a strike for it to be legal. I do not support a small group of union radicals holding everyone to ransom on the back of a strike ballot with a 40% turnout. On the London Underground I would fire all of the drivers and replace them with computers like we see on monorails. London Underground drives are paid £40,000 per year to sit down all day pushing buttons when the train enters a station; the job does not justify the current pay, yet they demand more.
This

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(Original post by CescaD96)
They were alright. Tomorrow will be a shambles.
You'll be fine Obviously right now it doesn't feel like this, but at the end of the day, exams are neither nowt nor summat. Stay calm and you're more than half way there
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