The Commons Bar Mk IX - MHoC Chat Thread Watch
And there was me thinking the education system was meant to be ok in Ireland. You must be the exception. Read before opening gob tends to help.
Anyway, I agree nurses are criminally underpaid. Doctors and teachers are most certainly not. Politicians are overpaid and need their pay cutting.
My point was manual labour jobs / jobs that don't require a degree / extensive training you can let the markets decide how much to pay. If tube drivers want to moan they don't get paid enough to sit on their backsides all day, sack them, and see how hundreds of people will happily take their job.
JHOs/SHOs/Reg are underpaid considering their membership costs, insurance, licence to practice fees. Considering the work outside of "working" hours teachers are required to do via marking etc. it's perfectly acceptable to argue a payrise.
As for lower skilled workers, do you advocate the removal of the minimum wage then? In which case we know where that's heading.
Should do a Reagan. Sack them if they go on strike with unreasonable demands. Plenty of unemployed would jump at the chance to get a job whatever the pay, so they're easily replaceable. If you don't get people going for the now available jobs, then it shows they were being paid too little and you raise the salary in the future.
Slightly trickier with healthcare workers / teachers as these need more training so can't just parachute any tom, **** or harry in. Teachers have no reason to strike though - never have.
"Slightly trickier with healthcare workers" - I know, considering we agree they are really underpaid, isn't is tricky that we can't sack them and replace them with those on the minimum wage, you've clearly said here the barrier is the amount of training, not that they are underpaid.
I also like your contrast between nurses and teachers, like there is some huge gulf, never had any reason to strike? Obviously all teachers should LOVE their performance related pay for instance, you know, when Principals transfer the better teachers to the tougher classes, so the better teachers get smaller bonuses compared with the inept ones.
Well, immigration isn't that big of issue here in N.Ireland. We're more focused on trying not to be put back under direct rule. I don't want us to be passive, I just want people to remember that we have problems at home too.
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Just hoping unit 2 will be better and maybe my EMPA will make up for it.
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