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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Thanks for letting me know. I guess there's not much point asking others because every uni differs. I have three essays one is worth 30 credits, one is worth 20 and then I failed the 10 credit one. So I will be annoyed if I don't get the pgce part just because I failed the smallest one!

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    Well, I presume there has to be a certain amount of credits that you MUST get that is standardised? Because only 2/3 essays for us need to be, I assume that you need to get 40 credits to get the PGCE. Send your course director an email or look in your student handbook
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    (Original post by laura.a.c265)
    Do page 10-11 of this help? Looks like you could pass at level 6

    http://www.cumbria.ac.uk/Courses/Sub...Education.aspx

    *edit* rubbish link! Programme specification that they sent me before applications
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    Thanks - in terms of passing at level 6 we were told it is all or nothing. So I'd lose the 50 masters credits I've got at the moment. It doesn't seem fair! Thank you though.
    (Original post by Samus2)
    Well, I presume there has to be a certain amount of credits that you MUST get that is standardised? Because only 2/3 essays for us need to be, I assume that you need to get 40 credits to get the PGCE. Send your course director an email or look in your student handbook
    Yeah it must not be 60. I've emailed my leaders but they are away all week and it's driving me mad! My handbook is useless too. As said above it just says it's all at level 6 or all at level 7.


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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I stupidly booked a holiday without thinking for two weeks in June once I've finished the course and I'm dreading my perfect job interviewing in that fortnight. However there is not much I can do about that now.

    Sorry you didn't get the job ParadoxSocks. I know that dropping feeling you get when they tell you . Onwards though... I don't think we have to worry just yet. I seem like the only trainee on my course without a job at the moment!

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    I remember reading your posts a while ago saying you wanted to quit your course. I am guessing you changed your mind? Good.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    I haven't got any solutions at all to offer, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am and hope it works out for you. I'm a firm believer in the idea that what's meant to be won't pass you by, but that is small comfort right now. I do hope everything is all right.
    Do you believe in fate or similar metaphysical ideas, darling?
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    I'm a firm believer in the idea that what's meant to be won't pass you by
    I'm a firm believer that phrases like "what's meant to be" are nothing more than wishful thinking designed to comfort people by imagining there is meaning in meaninglessness. Stuff passes us by all the time, though obviously, by its very nature, we are only consciously aware of the stuff that doesn't pass us by. There's no governing 'meaning' outside of any we make: the universe is indifferent to us.

    I want to be a source of comfort to my future students, but I'll never resort to the false comfort of wishful thinking.
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    (Original post by Juichiro)
    I remember reading your posts a while ago saying you wanted to quit your course. I am guessing you changed your mind? Good.
    Yeah I didn't see the point of dropping out with no alternative so I've really just taken each week as it comes. I'm glad I stuck it out but don't necessarily plan on going into teaching. How are you getting on?

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    (Original post by Juichiro)
    Do you believe in fate or similar metaphysical ideas, darling?
    (Original post by Squoosh25)
    I'm a firm believer that phrases like "what's meant to be" are nothing more than wishful thinking designed to comfort people by imagining there is meaning in meaninglessness. Stuff passes us by all the time, though obviously, by its very nature, we are only consciously aware of the stuff that doesn't pass us by. There's no governing 'meaning' outside of any we make: the universe is indifferent to us.

    I want to be a source of comfort to my future students, but I'll never resort to the false comfort of wishful thinking.
    I profoundly apologise for the sin of wishing to be comforting to someone I can't help but wished to express fellow feeling to. I assure you, it will never happen again now you have shown me the error of my ways. Forgive me for my faults.
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    (Original post by Grant2007)
    They are helping so that is a sign that they believe in you...a couple of weeks is not a long time in the long run... I think you need to stop worrying about getting a job and concentrate on finishing your PGCE. Jobs will continue to come up all the time and there is always plenty of supply work which is a good experience when you start teaching.

    Try to remain positive.


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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    I haven't got any solutions at all to offer, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am and hope it works out for you. I'm a firm believer in the idea that what's meant to be won't pass you by, but that is small comfort right now. I do hope everything is all right.
    (Original post by Airfairy)

    Oh I'm so sorry to hear that! It must be a very anxious time waiting to hear back. Extension of placement wouldn't be the end of the world and possibly a good idea if you feel you can make progress in that extra time.

    Do keep us updated. I'm really sorry to hear about it all. I hope it all works out

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    Thank you guys. In reality I think having some time off for half term is good because I can get my head straight. Just dreading seeing everyone from uni later this week as none of them know!

    It's not over til it's over I was originally rejected from the three year BA program, then after securing a place on a SCITT last year they withdrew their offer at the end of May and I had to go through clearing etc. to find a new place. I'm very familiar with rejection, haha. I've come this far... doesn't make sense to give in now!
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    (Original post by Squoosh25)
    I'm a firm believer that phrases like "what's meant to be" are nothing more than wishful thinking designed to comfort people by imagining there is meaning in meaninglessness. Stuff passes us by all the time, though obviously, by its very nature, we are only consciously aware of the stuff that doesn't pass us by. There's no governing 'meaning' outside of any we make: the universe is indifferent to us.

    I want to be a source of comfort to my future students, but I'll never resort to the false comfort of wishful thinking.
    What a silly and obnoxious post. Even if there is no 'outside meaning' then it is just something nice to say! (And I happen to think that there is some truth to it... after all, if you want something badly enough it will happen). It's not that different to things my uni tutors have said.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    I profoundly apologise for the sin of wishing to be comforting to someone I can't help but wished to express fellow feeling to. I assure you, it will never happen again now you have shown me the error of my ways. Forgive me for my faults.
    It's not comforting someone I object to, it's misinforming them (however well-intentioned).
    (Original post by alabelle)
    What a silly and obnoxious post. Even if there is no 'outside meaning' then it is just something nice to say!
    I don't think it's nice to give false hope.
    (Original post by alabelle)
    (And I happen to think that there is some truth to it... after all, if you want something badly enough it will happen)
    If you want something badly enough, yes, it's more likely to happen than if you don't want it, but that's very different to ideas about there being some kind of mystical force of providence shaping our lives.
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    (Original post by Squoosh25)
    It's not comforting someone I object to, it's misinforming them (however well-intentioned).
    I don't think it's nice to give false hope.If you want something badly enough, yes, it's more likely to happen than if you don't want it, but that's very different to ideas about there being some kind of mystical force of providence shaping our lives.
    The OP didn't say anything about a mystical force... she simply said that 'what's meant to be won't pass you by'. That can be interpreted in more than one way... it wasn't a malicious comment.

    As for false hope... I can't help but chuckle at that. If I fail, no matter what is said to me before then, I'll be gutted. A bit of positivity is helpful
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    (Original post by Squoosh25)
    It's not comforting someone I object to, it's misinforming them (however well-intentioned).
    I don't think it's nice to give false hope.If you want something badly enough, yes, it's more likely to happen than if you don't want it, but that's very different to ideas about there being some kind of mystical force of providence shaping our lives.
    Stop trying to derail the thread, it's just something people say, a perfectly common expression. Why you're making a mountain out of it and jumping down people's throats is beyond me.
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    The OP didn't say anything about a mystical force... she simply said that 'what's meant to be won't pass you by'. That can be interpreted in more than one way... it wasn't a malicious comment.
    I've never heard anyone use it other than to allude to some vague notion of "fate".

    (Original post by Veggiechic6)
    Stop trying to derail the thread, it's just something people say, a perfectly common expression. Why you're making a mountain out of it and jumping down people's throats is beyond me.
    Hey, easy with the mixed metaphors there. It's you who seems to be taking offence to my criticism of the expression. We're educationalists here. If I shouldn't care about 'truth' then what should I care about? (Don't say 'students'. I do care about students, and I care that they develop a good understanding of the nature of reality).
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    (Original post by Squoosh25)
    I've never heard anyone use it other than to allude to some vague notion of "fate".



    Hey, easy with the mixed metaphors there. It's you who seems to be taking offence to my criticism of the expression. We're educationalists here. If I shouldn't care about 'truth' then what should I care about?
    I took offence because it seemed such a silly little thing to pick up on and it was like you were deliberately trying to start an argument and send off-topic a perfectly good thread about teaching. I'll say no more on the matter so the thread can continue as if uninterrupted.
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    What I meant was 'Something will turn up, because it usually does,' If this is controversial, then I think people will have to make up their own minds about what they think I mean, because I am not in the least mystical or flat earthy or superstitious and all I intended was to give the OP some sense that it isn't the end of the world. If people want to make something peculiar out of that, other people have the right to decide who they think is right and who isn't. I meant a simple word of support, nothing more or nothing less, and this seems like a ridiculous argument for adult people to be having.
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    Trying to write my research project is killing me. I'm so tired. What the worst that can happen if I don't submit? I already have lots of masters credits from my other two essays. This one just seems like a spare.
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    So yeah I've been told that if I don't pass this 10 credit essay the next time then I don't get anything apart from QTS. I don't even get a level 6 qualification. I honestly feel so sick about this. Obviously it's easy to just say 'well make sure you pass it next time then', but the idea that if I don't I don't get anything that I've worked towards makes me feel ill. This is despite the fact that I've got 60+ in the other 50 credits out of 60. I don't understand how that is fair at all.

    I know you only need QTS to teach, but for one thing I don't want to teach and for another there's no way to put that on an application form and make it sound good that you have QTS but no PGCE.

    I wish I never did this whole thing. I've tried so hard on this course and then I may not even come out with everything I've studied for anyway despite already having 50 masters credits from the course.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    So yeah I've been told that if I don't pass this 10 credit essay the next time then I don't get anything apart from QTS. I don't even get a level 6 qualification. I honestly feel so sick about this. Obviously it's easy to just say 'well make sure you pass it next time then', but the idea that if I don't I don't get anything that I've worked towards makes me feel ill. This is despite the fact that I've got 60+ in the other 50 credits out of 60. I don't understand how that is fair at all.

    I know you only need QTS to teach, but for one thing I don't want to teach and for another there's no way to put that on an application form and make it sound good that you have QTS but no PGCE.

    I wish I never did this whole thing. I've tried so hard on this course and then I may not even come out with everything I've studied for anyway despite already having 50 masters credits from the course.
    I'm sorry Airfairy, you don't seem to have had much luck really- at least you have stayed strong and seen it through until the end. The PGCE can be so petty sometimes in many different ways. This year has bought back many unpleasant memories of being in school myself - both from acutally being back in a school enviroment and also from the way you are sometimes treated on the course by the superiors.
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    Trying to write my research project is killing me. I'm so tired. What the worst that can happen if I don't submit? I already have lots of masters credits from my other two essays. This one just seems like a spare.
    I think you need to pass everything. If you don't submit that'll count as a fail?

    (Original post by Airfairy)
    So yeah I've been told that if I don't pass this 10 credit essay the next time then I don't get anything apart from QTS. I don't even get a level 6 qualification. I honestly feel so sick about this. Obviously it's easy to just say 'well make sure you pass it next time then', but the idea that if I don't I don't get anything that I've worked towards makes me feel ill. This is despite the fact that I've got 60+ in the other 50 credits out of 60. I don't understand how that is fair at all.

    I know you only need QTS to teach, but for one thing I don't want to teach and for another there's no way to put that on an application form and make it sound good that you have QTS but no PGCE.

    I wish I never did this whole thing. I've tried so hard on this course and then I may not even come out with everything I've studied for anyway despite already having 50 masters credits from the course.
    Oh, I'm so so sorry to hear this! I can't believe that you won't even get a PCE... that's ridiculous.
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    I think you need to pass everything. If you don't submit that'll count as a fail?



    Oh, I'm so so sorry to hear this! I can't believe that you won't even get a PCE... that's ridiculous.
    I agree. My uni did vivas for people who didn't pass essays. They asked questions and people had to present etc and show they met the criteria, and if they did it they passed. Also I can't even comprehend the idea of a uni being so vague about what someone had done wrong... they should be making it very clear. If a student who has passed two other essays at masters level doesn't get how they 'haven't answered the question' the uni is doing something wrong.

    Also I didn't have set questions! So the whole thing sounds very bizarre to me.

    (Original post by Airfairy)
    So yeah I've been told that if I don't pass this 10 credit essay the next time then I don't get anything apart from QTS. I don't even get a level 6 qualification. I honestly feel so sick about this. Obviously it's easy to just say 'well make sure you pass it next time then', but the idea that if I don't I don't get anything that I've worked towards makes me feel ill. This is despite the fact that I've got 60+ in the other 50 credits out of 60. I don't understand how that is fair at all.

    I know you only need QTS to teach, but for one thing I don't want to teach and for another there's no way to put that on an application form and make it sound good that you have QTS but no PGCE.

    I wish I never did this whole thing. I've tried so hard on this course and then I may not even come out with everything I've studied for anyway despite already having 50 masters credits from the course.
 
 
 
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