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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Is it a coincidence that virtually every Oxbridge person was extremely intelligent and heavenly and just ever so amazing?
    Yes. Nick Griffin is such a jolly good chap isn't he?


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    (Original post by The Financier)
    Why are Oxbridge engineers automatically better than engineers who graduate from other Russell group universities? The standard of any profession is not firmly set by the name of the university you attend but the effort you put in during the degree.


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    1. Tutorial/supervision system.
    2. Expectation of having to work hard.
    3. You can't go onto second year of a Cambridge Engineering degree without doing a summer internship/work experience or whatever.
    4. You meet intellectually stimulating people there - improving your intelligence.
    5. A large amount of academic resources.
    6. Personal attention.

    Need I go on?

    Please, from the threads on TSR, it seems that people don't work hard enough in their first year at other universities.
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    Guys just ignore IMSOACADEMIC, it lives off of attention.
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    Or they didn't apply to Oxbridge because Nuclear Engineering isn't offered straight there, and they were so passionate about it, they had to go there to do it.

    They could have gone to Cambridge bur chose not to.

    I think you have to realise, people will be intelligent and passionate on certain courses above a certain rank of uni. Russel Group. Not just Oxbridge. Academic courses + RG = Intelligent and Passionate people imo



    I don't disagree with that, but isn't the actual course the main factor?
    Why does everyone think the Russell Group is the God league of universities? There are good universities inside it yes, but also some not so good ones in my opinion and then there are also good universities outside of it.
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    Oh grade boundaries... come out, come out, wherever you are!
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Maybe, but they're not good enough compared to a Cambridge engineer. They didn't get into Cambridge, did they? They didn't do well in interview.
    Most of the top engineering firm don't hire from Cambridge because their engineering course I not specialised from the start which mean for example a civil eng firm would want students who had done civil eng at uni and not just straight eng as they wouldn't have covered all the theory that they need to do the job. So really the Cambridge course may be good but it's not a good route into industry.


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    (Original post by guitardad)
    Guys just ignore IMSOACADEMIC, it lives off of attention.
    Who fed the gremlins after midnight again?

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    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
    Well to quote a cambridge master who spoke to me last year at the summer school I went to when i had the same concern tat I wouldn't be intelligent enough:

    "very few of the students I have met here at Cambridge could I describe as a 'genius'. The people here largely got in their situation through hard work and interest in their subject."

    Personally, i think you should take a bit of time away from thinking about universities. I don't tink anyone on here will be able to persuade you to change your views towards universities and you seem to be feeling quite negative about yourself because of all this thinking about Oxbridge. i can sort of empathise- I sort of saw Oxbridge as these magical, out of reach places but after visiting and going through the UCAS cycle and seeing people I know get in, I recognise now the people who get in are not demi-gods but just people. I do think you are going to have to compromise your views on some institutions like Imperial though, because else you won't be able to handle the idea of going anywhere but Oxbridge- should you not get a place.
    Depends on what you mean by the word "genius". Holy ****, some of them can be out of this world.

    They are magical institutions. Their alma mater have revolutionised this world.
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    (Original post by L'Evil Fish)
    I should have clarified that:
    "Nobody solely goes to university to fit in"
    Now that I can agree with.
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    (Original post by ElChapo)
    Why does everyone think the Russell Group is the God league of universities? There are good universities inside it yes, but also some not so good ones in my opinion and then there are also good universities outside of it.
    Didn't say it was, just a general statement. More likely to be a good uni in RG than not.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    What? There is an element in truth in what I'm saying.

    Oxbridge people command my respect.
    bleh. shortly after I wrote that, I started writing this:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...9#post43946459
    and I didn't see your response.

    yes, imperial is not as good academically as oxbridge, but there are some of us who can't even get into imperial, and that doesn't mean we don't value education.
    I've never had an oxbridge person command my respect. if they did, I'd think them a snob. you may judge yourself based on what university you go to, but looking down on other based on that is simply snobbish.

    that would explain my original post. but what I'd really like to say is, i do beleive there are plenty of people who are academics but not at oxbridge-level. it's not so bad. I think you could be happy without oxbridge if you just change your mindset a bit
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    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
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    You waiting up for grade boundaries too, AG? My sleeping pattern is screwed up already haha so I thought I might as well. The Oxbridge debate here is not providing much entertainment however

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    (Original post by FlyHigh_er)
    Most of the top engineering firm don't hire from Cambridge because their engineering course I not specialised from the start which mean for example a civil eng firm would want students who had done civil eng at uni and not just straight eng as they wouldn't have covered all the theory that they need to do the job. So really the Cambridge course may be good but it's not a good route into industry.


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    This guy is making it seem like any Engineering degree not from oxbridge is pants but you're just wrong too -__- Engineering firms would be happy to take on oxbridge graduates I'm sure and certainly wouldn't discriminate against them
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    (Original post by Arva)
    Now that I can agree with.
    Yeah, sorry, should have made it clear
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    Does anyone actually reckon that the boundaries will be posted tonight?
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    (Original post by billyfisher100)
    Does anyone actually reckon that the boundaries will be posted tonight?
    No
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    (Original post by Bulbasaur)
    Of course I'll help in any way I can.

    Not necessarily. I've never met you but I don't trust someone's own judgement of how intelligent they are.

    The only 'out of this world' person I know got rejected. There's some food for thought. Trust me, a lot of people are just hot air. They speak eloquently as if they know everything in the world and often they're just bull****ting but you can't tell because their fancy words have fogged up any meaning. Yes some are amazingly smart, but I don't see what makes them distinct from you. I wouldn't consider myself amazingly smart.

    Don't lose faith, you're probably underestimating your own abilities. Thursday shall reveal all - but as with the maths boundaries, I tend to be right (I got the A* boundary on C4 correct to the exact mark, just saying )

    Try and calm down and just take it as it comes. We'll discuss your results on/after Thursday, if you're not too busy celebrating, that is
    I think if you can do that, you're very intelligence. I can't do that! Many Oxbridgers can. I find that quality impressive. :erm:

    We'll see. Put it this way, if I get straight As, you probably won't be getting a PM from me.

    I don't know. Part of me thinks that if I do get into Oxbridge, I'll realise the reality that Oxbridgers are just normal people who happen to be intelligent and hard-working.

    Actually - how would you define intelligence? What makes you think that a person is intelligent?

    I think my definition is incorrect.
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    In a funny way I can see where I'm so academic is coming from. I'm not saying this is her situation but sometimes when you have nothing else going for you, grades suddenly mean everything. I speak from experience and a 4 month stay in a psychiatric unit. Self-hate is poisonous and can really distort the way you see yourself and things around you.
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    (Original post by billyfisher100)
    Does anyone actually reckon that the boundaries will be posted tonight?
    Who knows. They could come out at 11:59pm tomorrow hahaha
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    (Original post by Arva)
    Oxbridge isn't a place :lol:
    Yes, it is the amalgamation of the University of Oxford and the University of Cambridge... I know.
 
 
 
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