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What are your thoughts on the current arrangement of having separate threads for Spanish and Italian football? Would you rather they went back into the general European/World Football thread?

Please don't put it back. I have no interesting in reading a bunch of posts about Barcelona and Real Madrid. I am happy that when I go to the Italian football thread, I know I will be reading about Italian football, rather than having to search for the relevant comments through a melange of Messi vs CR7 fanboy posts.

- How has your activity been affected by the thread split? What change do you think a re-merger would have on your activity?

I didn't sign up until after the split so the first part is no applicable. However, I think I would post far less if the system was reverted.

- What (if any) changes have you noticed in terms of the scope of discussion since the changes? Do you think there has been more or less discussion overall?

Again, not applicable to me.

- What (if any) changes have you noticed in terms of the quality of discussion since the changes?

Once again, not applicable

- Do you have any suggestions of changes that you feel would enhance discussion of world football on TSR and improve your experience of it?

Maybe match week threads. For example this week's games would have been 30/a Giornata: Inter v Juve / Torino v Napoli. Maybe having such threads would drum up more new interest, seperate from the general talk.
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(Original post by Abiraleft)
Right, so it's been roughly seven months since the Italian and Spanish Football threads were created and relevant discussion diverted from the European/World Football Thread. We're interested in hearing how people have reacted to the change and what they think of it so that we can decide on how best to go forward. If you have a little time to spare (I know people are especially busy at this time of the year) we'd be very grateful if you could give a little feedback!

To recap, the Italian and Spanish Football threads were created at the start of this season with the intention of trying to expand the scope of discussion regarding European and World football on TSR. Previously, the European/World Football Thread had catered to all such discussion, but there were some complaints from members who felt that the sheer amount of discussion on the Spanish and Italian leagues was stifling the discussion of all other leagues. Thus, the thread-split was executed in the hope that discussion would expand and space be created for new discussion.

- What are your thoughts on the current arrangement of having separate threads for Spanish and Italian football? Would you rather they went back into the general European/World Football thread?

- How has your activity been affected by the thread split? What change do you think a re-merger would have on your activity?

- What (if any) changes have you noticed in terms of the scope of discussion since the changes? Do you think there has been more or less discussion overall?

- What (if any) changes have you noticed in terms of the quality of discussion since the changes?

- Do you have any suggestions of changes that you feel would enhance discussion of world football on TSR and improve your experience of it?

The above is purely a basic directional guide: you don't have to answer in that format at all (you can if you want to or find it easier) and you don't have to address all of the questions there; they're basically the key points we're interested in. If you have more to add, that's brilliant; if you only want to answer some of the points because you feel they're more relevant to you, that's more than fine. Also, don't worry about the length - if you've got a lot to say, we're happy to go through it to see what you think; if you have only a couple of lines of thought you'd like to put forward, that's still feedback we'd love to see.

Quoting some of the more regular posters in the relevant threads for attention, but we obviously want as many responses as possible. I'll be going stats-hunting later.




As always, if you have any questions or comments, let me or Mastermind` know. :cute:
I can't pretend I've used the European/World football thread anywhere near as much since the Spanish Football Thread was opened, but that isn't in any way implying that it should be shut. My absence on that particular thread is almost wholly down to an embarrassing lack of substantial knowledge of any league outside of the Spanish. When I venture into the thread, it seems to be used regularly and the discussions on the Portuguese league are among some of the best in the entire football forum. I might even go so far as to conjecture that not having so much Barcelona/Real Madrid discussion in the EWFT has actually encouraged people to discuss other leagues in that thread, therefore widening the scope of discussion.

Whilst the Spanish Football Thread isn't the most active football thread there is, it's still used often enough to have a clear, functioning purpose. And whilst discussion is centered around the two Clasico clubs, that does reflect the prevalence of those two sides in Spanish football and it's not totally restrictive - I've often seen discussions about Sociedad, Malaga and Atletico in there as well. It doesn't have the widest scope of discussion but it's not completely narrow, and I don't think that returning to the previous format would widen that breadth of Spanish Football discussion. As for myself, I spend substantially more time on the Spanish Football thread, but that is due to my own personal interest and knowledge in the leagues in question.

As for further improvements or thoughts, I would ideally like there to be one 'rule' or 'practice' regarding match threads. Having a few on occasion makes things a little chaotic as nobody seems to know what's going on. If I remember correctly, there was a match thread for Manchester City v Barnsley but not for either England game - this seems incongruous based purely on conjectured interest in the respective games. I wouldn't mind having a thread for competitions, really - I can't imagine a 'Premier League' thread would go unused and may be an ideal replacement for a lot of different match threads. Similarly, an FA/League Cup thread and a Champions League thread (I think that there already is one?) would be well used, I think. I'm sure a number of people might disagree with me on that, though.
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Pretty much this. Dont really post much, but the current structure helps me alot in terms of keeping me upto date with all the news & gossip.
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(Original post by Abiraleft)
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I like the new format because before you had to search through a load of posts in the European/World Football thread to find something relevant to what you wanted to discuss, and as I usually want to discuss something Serie A related, the Italian Football thread suits me in that way. That said, I liked the old system because, I love all football in general and it's always really great to hear other intelligent opinions about leagues that you may not perhaps watch as much. It kinda felt like a world football community in a way haha.

In terms of how it's affected my activity? I post quite a bit in the Italian thread (as much as I can/when something new pops up) and I used to post quite a bit in the European thread. The only difference is that now, I check the Euro thread a lot less.

I wouldn't mind a revert to the old format because I think, that way, there would be a larger scope for discussion. Now, I won't go out of my way to find a post about Messi/CR7/Bundesliga/world football, but I don't mind adding my input if the topic's there and in that sense, it'd be nice to have the old format back; everything foreign (in football terms) is there in one place to be commented upon, leading to a larger discussion/more people and more intelligent input. Obviously, now though, the discussion can be said to be indepth/richer but it's usually between fewer people and I know usually it's 'quality over quantity' but in this case, seeing as everyone is pretty intelligent, more is definitely merrier xD

Of course the new format makes everything easier to find and everything but, in my opinion, at the cost of richer discussion.
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I'm definitely in favour of seperate threads, keeps everything on topic about that league and as someone who doesn't keep in touch with Italian football, nice to have everything in one place.

The Spanish Thread is becoming more diverse from the days when it seemed it was always about two clubs and one of their top players.

I'd keep it as it is.
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I feel either way has its good points and its bad points.

With the individual Spanish and Italian threads means it’s easier to see what’s being said about what league, whereas when it was all in one thread it was just a mismatch of everything and quite difficult to follow all that had been said. Say if you’re not online for a few days you may be looking back a good few pages to see what has been said since you have last been on. Saying that, it has meant the activity in the European/World thread has quietened down quite a lot. It seems to be myself and aa22 who will talk about the Portuguese league and then Boumavilla and Abiraleft about Eredivisie, then a few odd comments about other leagues. But in a way I like that too as it means I’m there reading something about the Dutch league or what Rock Fan says with his MLS updates that I probably would have missed it had there been a whole lot of other talk about Spanish and Italian football in there.

My activity on this forum has been lacking a bit lately and i'm less active in the Spanish and Italian football bit but that’s not down to the way it has been changed, this is purely down to it being my final year at uni and I’m now heading into my final month with my dissertation, exams and assignments and what have you, so my days of attempting to watch so many different leagues has decreased and I tend to be just keeping an eye out on the Portuguese league and the Copa Libertadores right now.

If I had to choose then I would have to say I probably prefer it as it is now with the individual threads and one for Europe/World football.
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Like it this way.

Allows me to get through relevant stuff while the other thread was just finding pieces in a mesh of inter, real, milan, juve and barca. Might as well keep it this way and if we get enough interest put a german league up as well but that doesn't seem to be the case atm. I don't watch german football that much but a lot of people here sound like they have a good interest in it.

It may have less posts but I think it's become more specialised now. Like malevolant said sociedad, malaga, and others get talked about more, roma have been talked about once or twice this season, palermo get mentioned every few weeks when their manager is sacked too.
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palermo get mentioned every few weeks when their manager is sacked too.
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And people think the Premier League is bad for sacking managers, people need to have a look at Palermo's managerial history over the last 2 years.
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I preferred one thing as I knew I could go to one to get all my information about the rest of the world football. Now it's three threads and I do miss one or two threads at a time.
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Cheers for all the responses so far, guys, they're all very helpful! :ta:
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Just realised that for the first time in a long time we did no awards and whatnot.
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Just realised that for the first time in a long time we did no awards and whatnot.
It's only January 3, there's still time to do year end awards. Someone just get the thread from last year and copy and paste the categories etc. over
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It's only January 3, there's still time to do year end awards. Someone just get the thread from last year and copy and paste the categories etc. over
True. Maybe I'll dig it out tomorrow at some point if no mod (Abira :puppyeyes:) is willing to do it.
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The Eden Hazard Award - BEST NEWCOMER
The Sian Massey Award - BEST FEMALE MEMBER
The Emile Heskey Award - MOST MISSED MEMBER
The Andre Santos Award - FUNNIEST MEMBER
The Roman Abramovich Award - BIGGEST WUM
The Gary Neville Award - BEST DEBATER
The Jonathan Wilson Award - MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE MEMBER
The Radamel Falcao Award - MOST WANTED MEMBER
The TSR d'Or - BEST MEMBER



Fro last year. Some awards need new names. Open to suggestions.
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True. Maybe I'll dig it out tomorrow at some point if no mod (Abira :puppyeyes:) is willing to do it.
Oh don't worry, I'm already on it (sorry for the tardiness!).

Wouldn't be averse to category name suggestions, though. :awesome:
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I'm tempted to say Walcott for WUM just because of how much I enjoyed the 2-0 to Spurs the other day :teeth:

Can;t think of many for best newcomer, maybe Lovren
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I'm tempted to say Walcott for WUM just because of how much I enjoyed the 2-0 to Spurs the other day :teeth:

Can;t think of many for best newcomer, maybe Lovren
Best Newcomer: Manuel Poccetino ?


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Biggest WUM: Alex Ferguson

For hiring Moyes :awesome:


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I'm tempted to say Walcott for WUM just because of how much I enjoyed the 2-0 to Spurs the other day :teeth:

Can;t think of many for best newcomer, maybe Lovren
The Adnan Januzaj award for best newcomer?

Biggest WUM ... Vincent Tan surely?
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Best Newcomer: Manuel Poccetino ?


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Like it. Would be more representative of the whole year as well.

Tan for WUM isn't a bad shout either but I refuse to endorse an award with Januzaj in it's name


But then again Fergie in his book was a ****ing WUM as well the maggot
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