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    (Original post by henrysaunders1)
    They have 3, but I can only do 2 - I'm running off to Australia for a few weeks! I'm thinking of getting some insurance experience over the summer if I don't get it, as they specialise in insurance law..
    Clyde & Co is a very fun firm, spent a week in their corporate department in summer just gone, brilliant people!
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    When is it best to start applying for summer vac schemes?
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    Has anyone got any advice for this questions please:

    "In relation to a low point, i.e. something that went badly, how did you deal with the experience and what have you learnt from it?"

    Is this a trick question? Can anyone provide any examples?
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    (Original post by Swimmer)
    Has anyone got any advice for this questions please:

    "In relation to a low point, i.e. something that went badly, how did you deal with the experience and what have you learnt from it?"

    Is this a trick question? Can anyone provide any examples?
    It isn't a trick question. It's about how you deal with set backs and how you pick yourself up to then be successful.

    The reality is as a lawyer is that you are going to have that happen a lot, whether it's a mistake you make, losing clients to a competitor, losing a case or a transaction not going ahead as planned due.


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    (Original post by Swimmer)
    When is it best to start applying for summer vac schemes?
    Depends how many you are applying to and what the deadlines are.

    Generally, the earlier the better as long as you have done enough research and understand why the career and firm(s) motivates you to apply (and eventually accept a place with them).


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    (Original post by J-SP)
    It isn't a trick question. It's about how you deal with set backs and how you pick yourself up to then be successful.

    The reality is as a lawyer is that you are going to have that happen a lot, whether it's a mistake you make, losing clients to a competitor, losing a case or a transaction not going ahead as planned due.


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    Are you able to provide me with some examples at all? I havent had major set backs as such, all I can remember is small mistakes that I have perhaps made, but nothing as such that would constitute me to write a 150 word paragraph on. Really struggling with this one.
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    (Original post by Swimmer)
    Are you able to provide me with some examples at all? I havent had major set backs as such, all I can remember is small mistakes that I have perhaps made, but nothing as such that would constitute me to write a 150 word paragraph on. Really struggling with this one.
    I've never seen it on an application as it isn't a question I've posed. But in interviews I've asked similar questions. Answers have been things around not doing well in exams/assessments, struggling to understand topics they are studying, mistakes at work, not enjoying something, working in a team that was ineffective/getting on, even failing to get vac schemes/TCs.

    It's not the example you have to focus on though, it's the story behind it. When have things not gone well and when have you had to work hard/take a different approach to ensure success. When have you shown determination to succeed in a time where on the face of it, you weren't going to. If you can't think of an example, I am not sure I can be much more help.


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    AHH! is anyone else having problems making an account for HSF?
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    (Original post by liarpoker)
    Yeah for HSF you're barred from applying if you're rejected at interview stage or fail the tests pre-interview.
    how long does it take to know if you've made it through the SJTs from HSF?
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    (Original post by theminimg)
    how long does it take to know if you've made it through the SJTs from HSF?
    Got an email the same day, but probably no more than 1-2 working days?

    Probably depends on how busy they are though.
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    Also can anyone shed any light on how references are used e.g. do they check them? If so, is it purely administrative?
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    (Original post by loveheartsandall)
    Also can anyone shed any light on how references are used e.g. do they check them? If so, is it purely administrative?
    They definitely do check them and for some like Slaughters, they seem to be a genuine part of the decision making process.

    Some firms like Jones Day ask for references prior to making a decision on inviting you to interview.
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    (Original post by loveheartsandall)
    Also can anyone shed any light on how references are used e.g. do they check them? If so, is it purely administrative?
    They are usually a verification of what you have put on your form. And yes they do check them - wouldn't be much point in asking for them otherwise.


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    I'm having trouble with one question on an application and wondered if anyone had any thoughts - the question basically asks what are your main strengths and weaknesses according to others (and it asks for 3 each) but only allows 150 words. With such a short word count there doesn't seem to be a lot of room to elaborate on each. When I spoke to HR at a recent event, they said the main point was to be concise and that bullet points were okay. In my draft answer, I have listed 3 strengths (things people have said and/or feedback I've had from interviews). With the weaknesses I have listed 3 but on each I have attempted to state what I have done to improve upon them (I prefer to offer real weaknesses that wouldn't impact on the role of a trainee rather than "I'm a perfectionist" etc).

    I don't know whether this is the best approach though. Would really appreciate any help thanks
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    (Original post by TrainingChopeful)
    I don't know whether this is the best approach though. Would really appreciate any help thanks
    Sounds like a good approach.


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    Hi guys, which vac schemes have the easiest application process (i.e. no verbal reasoning tests ect.), maybe just covering letters (like Slaughter & May)?
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    (Original post by TrainingChopeful)
    With the weaknesses I have listed 3 but on each I have attempted to state what I have done to improve upon them (I prefer to offer real weaknesses that wouldn't impact on the role of a trainee rather than "I'm a perfectionist" etc).

    I don't know whether this is the best approach though. Would really appreciate any help thanks

    This seems like a good approach to me, and I respect the way you're avoiding the whole 'weaknesses that aren't really weaknesses' thing, must be interesting for a recruiter to have a candidate who is human as opposed to 'well my only weakness is that I'm just too perfect, means I can never improve LOL' out of interest (as none of my apps so far seem to have asked this Q) what sort of weaknesses are you going for?

    Obviously avoid going too far the other way and doing what I've heard of some numpties do like saying 'well for weaknesses I am lazy and a liar' haha! Not that I think you'd do that :P
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    (Original post by TrainingChopeful)
    I'm having trouble with one question on an application and wondered if anyone had any thoughts - the question basically asks what are your main strengths and weaknesses according to others (and it asks for 3 each) but only allows 150 words. With such a short word count there doesn't seem to be a lot of room to elaborate on each. When I spoke to HR at a recent event, they said the main point was to be concise and that bullet points were okay. In my draft answer, I have listed 3 strengths (things people have said and/or feedback I've had from interviews). With the weaknesses I have listed 3 but on each I have attempted to state what I have done to improve upon them (I prefer to offer real weaknesses that wouldn't impact on the role of a trainee rather than "I'm a perfectionist" etc).

    I don't know whether this is the best approach though. Would really appreciate any help thanks
    (Original post by TykeDragon)
    This seems like a good approach to me, and I respect the way you're avoiding the whole 'weaknesses that aren't really weaknesses' thing, must be interesting for a recruiter to have a candidate who is human as opposed to 'well my only weakness is that I'm just too perfect, means I can never improve LOL' out of interest (as none of my apps so far seem to have asked this Q) what sort of weaknesses are you going for?

    Obviously avoid going too far the other way and doing what I've heard of some numpties do like saying 'well for weaknesses I am lazy and a liar' haha! Not that I think you'd do that :P
    That sounds good to me. I agree with what TykeDragon said, people who say 'they're a perfectionist' aren't really giving a weakness at all, they're dressing up a strength as a weakness (from the mouths of recruiters).
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    The perfectionist answer is the worst response anyone can give to those type of answers anyway. It isn't a "strength" at all, it's a load of rubbish. With most "perfectionists" you can easily highlight where they haven't been perfect in the past or in their application.

    Self awareness is a vital characteristic to being a lawyer. As long as you recognise what aren't your strengths but show how you compensate for this or how you are looking to improve on the areas that need developing, it doesn't really matter what the answers are.


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    (Original post by TykeDragon)
    This seems like a good approach to me, and I respect the way you're avoiding the whole 'weaknesses that aren't really weaknesses' thing, must be interesting for a recruiter to have a candidate who is human as opposed to 'well my only weakness is that I'm just too perfect, means I can never improve LOL' out of interest (as none of my apps so far seem to have asked this Q) what sort of weaknesses are you going for?

    Obviously avoid going too far the other way and doing what I've heard of some numpties do like saying 'well for weaknesses I am lazy and a liar' haha! Not that I think you'd do that :P
    Thank you for the response it is really helpful to hear that (hopefully) I'm on the right track in terms of how I am answering the question. One I have used in past interviews is public speaking - I was very intimidated about speaking in front of a lot of people, particularly when I started university. But realising this I took/ and am taking steps to improve my confidence. I think my approach is to be honest (without hurting your chances) as nobody is perfect.

    I am sure some people will probably list the same weakness but I think the answers will differ when you start to talk about how you improve (as people tackle weaknesses differently). Hope this helps
 
 
 
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