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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Because i and my family worked hard for them, and i would not be willing to sell my house(s) because someone else does not have one
    No, you didn't work hard for it you were born. That is all you did to get the house. And you could rent it out still. As long as someone was actually living there that is... You have a social responsibility no to keep a house empty just because you want it when there is a housing crisis.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    No, you didn't work hard for it you were born. That is all you did to get the house. And you could rent it out still. As long as someone was actually living there that is... You have a social responsibility no to keep a house empty just because you want it when there is a housing crisis.
    building more houses is the answer, converting old buildings which are abandonded into flats if big enough and not forcing people to sell there house
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Your version of a manifesto, not manifestos in general

    When in the last 50 years have manifestos done anything but damage the public's faith in politicians?

    When people vote their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote and/or what their values are. The cruel reality is that - especially in an online student forum election - no one but the hacks involved gives a toss what your housing policies are. You have all wasted your time.

    Elections are never won on your kind of manifesto but trust in politicians is almost always eroded by them because the pledges made in them are abandoned more than they are fulfilled.
    I don't mean to be rude, but the Nat Lib manifesto looks like it has just been quickly thrown together at the last minute. If a neutral looks at the GE manifestos, there is a higher chance that they will vote for a manifesto which looks like it has carefully been thought through.
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    Your version of a manifesto, not manifestos in general

    When in the last 50 years have manifestos done anything but damage the public's faith in politicians?

    When people vote their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote and/or what their values are. The cruel reality is that - especially in an online student forum election - no one but the hacks involved gives a toss what your housing policies are. You have all wasted your time.

    Elections are never won on your kind of manifesto but trust in politicians is almost always eroded by them because the pledges made in them are abandoned more than they are fulfilled.
    As much as I hate to say it, it's going to backfire on you.
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    building more houses is the answer, converting old buildings which are abandonded into flats if big enough and not forcing people to sell there house
    'Which are abandoned' you are talking about abandoning a house....
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    (Original post by Aph)
    'Which are abandoned' you are talking about abandoning a house....
    no not homes there is a difference between homes and buildings. Like my local post office moved to a new improved and smaller outlet the old one can be converted into three flats. Thats what i mean by that. There is two realistic solutions

    A Build more houses
    B decrease the demand and population who want to buy houses

    Option A is better
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    no not homes there is a difference between homes and buildings. Like my local post office moved to a new improved and smaller outlet the old one can be converted into three flats. Thats what i mean by that. There is two realistic solutions

    A Build more houses
    B decrease the demand and population who want to buy houses

    Option A is better
    C: Undertake authoritarian ways of ensuring a utility-efficient allocation of the existing resource.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    C: Undertake authoritarian ways of ensuring a utility-efficient allocation of the existing resource.
    Saying your a socialist its not very social is it- adding more law. What about real life people who have earnt money for two houses they could just constantly reject bids meaning years down the line you may be no further forward
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Saying your a socialist its not very social is it- adding more law. What about real life people who have earnt money for two houses they could just constantly reject bids meaning years down the line you may be no further forward
    This is why I'd like to tax ownership of additional real estate.

    Also, socialism isn't necessarily a liberal ideology.
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    no not homes there is a difference between homes and buildings. Like my local post office moved to a new improved and smaller outlet the old one can be converted into three flats. Thats what i mean by that. There is two realistic solutions

    A Build more houses
    B decrease the demand and population who want to buy houses

    Option A is better
    C ban second home ownership (including the queen) and forcibly sceize unoccupied houses for social housing, why should we build more houses when there are perfectly good empty ones lying around?
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    This is why I'd like to tax ownership of additional real estate.

    Also, socialism isn't necessarily a liberal ideology.
    there would be some loopholes in taxes there always is.m
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    (Original post by Aph)
    C ban second home ownership (including the queen) and forcibly sceize unoccupied houses for social housing, why should we build more houses when there are perfectly good empty ones lying around?
    You will be paying a lot out in compensation...
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    there would be some loopholes in taxes there always is.m
    The loopholes only arise because of exceptions. This doesn't need exceptions.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The loopholes only arise because of exceptions. This doesn't need exceptions.
    What about buying a house in your 3 month old sons' name then you still only have one house in theory
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    What about buying a house in your 3 month old sons' name then you still only have one house in theory
    I'd just use a residency requirement. What I want to stop isn't people owning multiple houses and renting one out, it's having houses which are empty.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I'd just use a residency requirement. What I want to stop isn't people owning multiple houses and renting one out, it's having houses which are empty.
    How would you police it?
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    You will be paying a lot out in compensation...
    Not at all. Tell people 'either you sell your house and make money or you refuse to sell and we will take it by force'
    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    How would you police it?
    Have people report empty houses for a £500 reward?
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    How would you police it?
    Add fines and/or prison sentences which make it a daft bet not to self-report, given inspection frequency.

    (Original post by Aph)
    Not at all. Tell people 'either you sell your house and make money or you refuse to sell and we will take it by force'
    #aphtheliberal

    (going to be using this hashtag until you join the socialists )
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    No, all political party manifestos have policies. A manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions of a party. Your policy has not done this to a sufficient extent to argue that it has met the basic rules of a manifesto.
    A manifesto does not have to declare either policies or intentions.

    'A manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party or government.'

    By that logic I could argue that your party has no point in existing.
    You could, but it wouldn't be consistent with what I said.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Add fines and/or prison sentences which make it a daft bet not to self-report, given inspection frequency.



    #aphtheliberal

    (going to be using this hashtag until you join the socialists )
    I second that
 
 
 
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