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Original post by Cadherin
The reason Israel doesn't want peace is because the Hamas are repeatedly targeting their civilians.


you have it the wrong way round
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHYOkCmEjFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPWi6x8HshM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c
Original post by Cadherin
The man speaking at the beginning of the second video isn't far off the truth.


wow i can't even be bothered with you anymore- believe what you want i hope i never meet you
Original post by felamaslen
I'm not avoiding the argument, I'm proposing one: that Israel is a free country, and Islamic states are not.

Israel is free? So those kids who try to walk to school in Hebron and get stopped and beaten by IDF soldiers are 'free'?
Original post by Cadherin
Oh, and the terrorist organisation which Palestine voted for are completely non-interventionist aren't they?


If Hamas are terrorists God knows what the IDF is.


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Original post by Kolasinac138
Israel is free? So those kids who try to walk to school in Hebron and get stopped and beaten by IDF soldiers are 'free'?


Never said the West Bank was free did I.
Original post by Midlander
When did Hamas last occupy Israeli territory?


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That's a totally irrelevant question.
Original post by felamaslen
That's a totally irrelevant question.


Because the answer is inconvenient I presume. Maybe Mark Regev, or Cadharin, knows the answer?


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Original post by Midlander
Because the answer is inconvenient I presume. Maybe Mark Regev, or Cadharin, knows the answer?


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To be fair I'd rather be Mark Regev than Ismail Haniyeh.
Original post by felamaslen
I'm not avoiding the argument, I'm proposing one: that Israel is a free country, and Islamic states are not.


You want to change the subject. You are avoiding the argument.
Original post by felamaslen
No, but that's hardly the most important thing.


Yes it is. It is a crime. In fact they were accused of restricting supply based on calories !!!!. Who does that.....
Original post by felamaslen
To be fair I'd rather be Mark Regev than Ismail Haniyeh.


Mark Regev is an apologist for snipers of children.


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Original post by DK_Tipp
You want to change the subject. You are avoiding the argument.


The subject was about what constitutes a free country. I'm claiming that a state in which there is no free speech or free democracy is not a free country.
Original post by Midlander
Mark Regev is an apologist for snipers of children.


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Even if that is true, he is at least defending a democracy. Haniyeh defends tyranny.
Original post by felamaslen
The subject was about what constitutes a free country. I'm claiming that a state in which there is no free speech or free democracy is not a free country.


What country? Are we talking about Palestine here? Because they don't have a country remember.

You can't just dictate the terms of the discussion and refuse to answer inconvenient issues like for example Israel deciding that international law shouldn't apply to them
Original post by felamaslen
Even if that is true, he is at least defending a democracy. Haniyeh defends tyranny.


What good is a country being a democracy if it commits war crimes?


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Original post by Midlander
What good is a country being a democracy if it commits war crimes?


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^ yes
Original post by Midlander
If Hamas are terrorists God knows what the IDF is.


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thankyou
Original post by felamaslen
Even if that is true, he is at least defending a democracy. Haniyeh defends tyranny.


wow they've got you brainwashed pretty good havnt they
Original post by felamaslen
Never said the West Bank was free did I.

The West Bank is in Isreal, no?

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