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    Yeah it's every three weeks at our school normally. What's annoying is that the book scrutiny isn't until July 6th yet cos it's my last two days I'm expected to mark three sets in technically a day because I have uni tomorrow. I just keep thinking that if I can't fit it in, I can't fit it in. There's nothing more I can do than mark what I can in my frees on Friday. It's not like they can do anything about it if I can't fit it in.

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    (Original post by myrtille)
    That's ridiculous.

    I know in primary schools they normally mark every day, but 1.in secondary every 2-3 weeks is more usual (our school policy is every 8 lessons, which is between 2 and 4 weeks, depending on how often you see the group - though this isn't really enforced to be honest). So it stands to reason that if books have been marked a week ago they are not due for marking - book scrutiny or no book scrutiny.

    Is the purpose of a book scrutiny to see that books are marked regularly and to a good standard? Or is it to check that when SLT issue an instruction staff drop everything and do as they're told. Because this sounds to me more like the latter.

    As a PGCE student, of course you just have to deal with it. As a qualified teacher I'd be considering whether it was the type of school I wanted to work in for much longer if I was expected to mark to someone else's timetable rather than when I feel pupils have produced something worth collecting in and marking.
    Lucky them. My experience has been:
    1.a) mark every book the same day after the lesson or b)mark the book every 1-2 weeks.
    2. Staff will a) check your books once per term or b)check your books with no prior warning

    A and B are rules from different schools. School enforcing rule a is pretty strict about the rules.

    P.S. I am not defending any of the above, just sharing some experiences.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Yeah it's every three weeks at our school normally. What's annoying is that the book scrutiny isn't until July 6th yet cos it's my last two days I'm expected to mark three sets in technically a day because I have uni tomorrow. I just keep thinking that if I can't fit it in, I can't fit it in. There's nothing more I can do than mark what I can in my frees on Friday. It's not like they can do anything about it if I can't fit it in.

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    This is pretty much it. You can only mark as much as you can mark. If you run out of time then that's that, you can't make more time so there isn't much you can do. Just do as much as you can along with the other things which need doing.

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    I think the next few years is going to be a crucial time for teachers to take action against some of these ridiculous demands.

    There's a teacher recruitment crisis looming (already quite bad in some subjects/regions) which means ultimately the schools need us. If teachers all refuse to stick to marking schedules or comply with work scrutinies, they can't sack everyone. I know theoretically this has already been happening (with the "action short of strike action") but in reality most people are still too worried about what will happen if they don't comply with management's every whim.

    But I think a tipping point is coming, particularly in shortage subjects. I think we have more independence in my department (languages) because there's a teacher shortage, we're a bloody good department which has replaced a mess (after a few years of high staff turnover and poor behaviour management), and we're not easily replaceable. So when SLT says "these reports need doing for Friday" (with 3-4 days notice), my HoD will turn round and say "that's ridiculous - my staff aren't doing that." and the deadline gets changed for the whole school.

    Sorry for a the rant, and as I said previously, during a PGCE placement you do just have to suck it up because you want to pass and get a good reference.

    I just feel that teachers are supposed to be leaders, not just blindly do what they're told without even questioning whether regularly marking exercise books is a valid use of time.
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    Managed to mark 100 books today as well as finishing off mymarking of end of year exams. A few more to do tomorrow morning and then I'm finished. Goddamn I'm sad to be leaving.
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    Sooooo some may remember I failed my last uni assignment, but I found out today that I failed another too. So that's two essays I must resubmit in August, and if I fail either of them again I don't get PGCE. I honestly feel sick. If this whole year goes to waste then I worry about my mental health in terms of how depressed I will get.

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    Managed to mark 100 books today as well as finishing off mymarking of end of year exams. A few more to do tomorrow morning and then I'm finished. Goddamn I'm sad to be leaving.
    100 books?!?!?! That is a feat. It takes me about six hours to do one set of 30! I don't mark v regularly though so I have loads to mark when I do.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Sooooo some may remember I failed my last uni assignment, but I found out today that I failed another too. So that's two essays I must resubmit in August, and if I fail either of them again I don't get PGCE. I honestly feel sick. If this whole year goes to waste then I worry about my mental health in terms of how depressed I will get.



    100 books?!?!?! That is a feat. It takes me about six hours to do one set of 30! I don't mark v regularly though so I have loads to mark when I do.
    Man, that sucks! Do you at least have feedback from them to help you improve?

    Haha, yeah, marking's always been a strength and I actually quite enjoy it. Just stick some loud drum and bass on and off I go!
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Sooooo some may remember I failed my last uni assignment, but I found out today that I failed another too. So that's two essays I must resubmit in August, and if I fail either of them again I don't get PGCE. I honestly feel sick. If this whole year goes to waste then I worry about my mental health in terms of how depressed I will get.
    It never rains but it pours, eh? I'm very sorry. You haven't had a good year, have you?
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    Man, that sucks! Do you at least have feedback from them to help you improve?

    Haha, yeah, marking's always been a strength and I actually quite enjoy it. Just stick some loud drum and bass on and off I go!
    My feedback isn't helpful. I'm going back in in July to talk about it in more detail.

    Wow, having marking as a strength isn't bad going!
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    It never rains but it pours, eh? I'm very sorry. You haven't had a good year, have you?
    Not really! My lecturers keep trying to reassure me by telling me that the QTS is all I need for a job, but I'm not buying it. No-one is going to hire someone with just QTS and no PGCE because it's obvious I failed the academic part and there are loads of PGCE graduates so it will be completely and utterly wasted.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    My feedback isn't helpful. I'm going back in in July to talk about it in more detail.

    Wow, having marking as a strength isn't bad going!


    Not really! My lecturers keep trying to reassure me by telling me that the QTS is all I need for a job, but I'm not buying it. No-one is going to hire someone with just QTS and no PGCE because it's obvious I failed the academic part and there are loads of PGCE graduates so it will be completely and utterly wasted.
    I'm kind of dreading the NQT year for the marking tbh, more classes, eurgh! Not worried about the extra planning or teaching, but yeah - the increase of marking is panicky me slightly.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    My feedback isn't helpful. I'm going back in in July to talk about it in more detail.

    Wow, having marking as a strength isn't bad going!


    Not really! My lecturers keep trying to reassure me by telling me that the QTS is all I need for a job, but I'm not buying it. No-one is going to hire someone with just QTS and no PGCE because it's obvious I failed the academic part and there are loads of PGCE graduates so it will be completely and utterly wasted.
    It's not over until they tell you it is. Whilst redoing your essays sucks, you will be doing them without the strain of doing the rest of the course and the teaching practice at the same time, so it will be much easier to polish them up.
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    Thats it, I've just picked up my folder from the department and have officially passed etc so there we go!
    Rather glad thats all over!
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    My final report has come out as very good. I am so happy. Just spent my last lunchtime finishing a robot with a group of year 7 pupils :'

    Don't know why I'm feeling a bit sad - I'm back again on Tuesday. I haven't finished my folder yet - I have about 4 weeks of diary missing and I need to the spend the weekend putting together two units of learning.

    Essentially, it's the end but not really the end so it all feels a bit odd.

    And we're still waiting on our final masters essay report that comes out today. I should know if I'm a PGDE or PGCE by the end of teh day.
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    Got a level 6 pass for my last essay and my sister has been taken in for emergency surgery.

    Today has sucked so much
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    Placement is over, finishing with my Uni's equivalent of outstanding...
    Cried when I said goodbye to my mentor, my department also got me an A3 replica of the Magna Carta for my new classroom. So sad to be leaving but so happy I'm through the PGCE at the other side!
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    It's really hard to balance the congratulations with the commiserations and I'm fearful of saying the wrong thing, but having followed you all through the year, I just wanted to say well done to those who were successful and how sad I am that not everyone had the same, positive outcome. Good luck to all of you, whichever camp you fall in.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    It's really hard to balance the congratulations with the commiserations and I'm fearful of saying the wrong thing, but having followed you all through the year, I just wanted to say well done to those who were successful and how sad I am that not everyone had the same, positive outcome. Good luck to all of you, whichever camp you fall in.
    Thank you for taking the time this year to reply to all of us! Sometimes it's been so helpful to have someone on the other end who's been in the career for a long time.
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    Well yesterday was the finish line. I had my last day on placement. Last lesson was with my wonderful year 7s who all got my presents and some of the things they wrote in the cards made me cry. One of the students also stood up at the end and gave me a speech. I had to hold off bawling in front of the class! I am sad to leave that school, and a little worried about the future but glad it's over. Annoyed it's not totally over because I have to redo those essays in August though...

    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    It's really hard to balance the congratulations with the commiserations and I'm fearful of saying the wrong thing, but having followed you all through the year, I just wanted to say well done to those who were successful and how sad I am that not everyone had the same, positive outcome. Good luck to all of you, whichever camp you fall in.
    (Original post by Samus2)
    Thank you for taking the time this year to reply to all of us! Sometimes it's been so helpful to have someone on the other end who's been in the career for a long time.
    Yes, I second Samus2 here. You have been an excellent advisor and shoulder to cry on Carnationlilyrose!

    Also thanks for everyone else for advice. kpwxx, you've been wonderful too. And I think as trainees with have all helped each other! This thread has been my pillar of strength at times. I may come over to the NQT thread even though I won't be starting a job.

    It seems like yesterday I was trying to find my way to uni for the first lecture and now we are here. It has gone fast. It has been challenging and tough. I don't regret it though. I have learnt more in this one year than three years at undergrad. I believe I have a lot of transferable skills no matter what I decide to do and I think (cheese alert) I have grown as a person.

    There have probably been a lot of prospective students following this thread, and all I can say is that it does go fast, the workload is manageable (and in my personal experience not as bad as it's made out to be), and it is a challenge but in a good way I think.

    Best of luck to everyone in the future.
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    Thank you both for your kind words. As you will/have already discovered, taking the teaching hat off when off-duty can be hard! I shall find it even harder in a fortnight, when I have retired, I don't doubt. I suspect we may all stick around this thread for quite a bit longer than our status entitles us to!

    Whatever you do and wherever you go, I wish you all the very best.

    (PS Airfairy, I had to repeat my first essay, too. No harm came of it. Best of luck!)
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    Samus2 Airfairy
    Thank you both for your kind words. As you will/have already discovered, taking the teaching hat off when off-duty can be hard! I shall find it even harder in a fortnight, when I have retired, I don't doubt. I suspect we may all stick around this thread for quite a bit longer than our status entitles us to!

    Whatever you do and wherever you go, I wish you all the very best.

    (PS Airfairy, I had to repeat my first essay, too. No harm came of it. Best of luck!)
    Thank you .

    What are your plans once you've retired? Hope you have some nice plans. Or rather none at all!

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