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    (Original post by Aj12)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3809955.html
    Doctors Without Borders In Syria Confirm 355 Dead, Thousands Treated For 'Neurotoxic Symptoms' After Suspected Chemical Attack.

    They are an organisation well known for their neutrality and reliabilkity.
    Medecins sans frontiere?

    Ever heard of the Bernard Kouchner scandal in Bosnia?

    kouchner helped set up MSF and worked as a doctor for the entity in bosnia during the war in Kosovo, and is alleged to have removed the organs of dead serbian soldiers.

    The man's an arse, i speak french so can personally vouch for this man's lack of integrity.

    i don't trust MSF.
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    Assad has fled to Iran.
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    (Original post by nastynas)
    Assad has fled to Iran.
    lol your sig is so distracting! I was going to write something but now I can't be bothered
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    (Original post by Rovey)
    Medecins sans frontiere?

    Ever heard of the Bernard Kouchner scandal in Bosnia?

    kouchner helped set up MSF and worked as a doctor for the entity in bosnia during the war in Kosovo, and is alleged to have removed the organs of dead serbian soldiers.

    The man's an arse, i speak french so can personally vouch for this man's lack of integrity.

    i don't trust MSF.
    One man's actions is hardly a good enough reason for denying that their hospitals have encountered and treated large numbers of dead and dying in Syria, especially when the organisation as a whole is seen as incredibly reliable and neutral.

    Are you even going to believe the UN report if it comes out with conclusions contradicting what you think? Or will it suddenly be western propaganda?
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    It's not one man's actions, the MSF as a whole was deeply involved in the likely trafficking of organs.
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    (Original post by Rovey)
    It's not one man's actions, the MSF as a whole was deeply involved in the likely trafficking of organs.
    Do you have a source since I can't find anything.

    Like I asked earlier if the UN report comes out saying this was carried out by Syria will you believe it? Or is that only the case if it comes to the same conclusions you have come to?
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    Why do people keep negging my posts? If you disagree with what I say then let's have a debate about it, isn't that what forums are about?
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    UN CONFIRM REBELS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS:

    http://rt.com/news/line/2013-08-28/#50527
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    (Original post by nastynas)
    UN CONFIRM REBELS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS:

    http://rt.com/news/line/2013-08-28/#50527
    Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.
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    I more and more have come to feel that Shaykh Buti had it right and that people should have put their heads down for the sake of stability. Instead we may well be witnessing the implosion of another Middle Eastern country that will lead to untold misery for an entire nation. My justification for the fighting up until now has been that it was simply unavoidable and that Asad led the rebels to a point of no return. But I have to question the wisdom of fighting a battle when so many are dying who didn't choose to fight for either side. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of refugees are streaming from Syria into Iraq (what a world), and I don't know what their future is to be. So much lost. What has been gained?
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    (Original post by Rovey)
    It's not one man's actions, the MSF as a whole was deeply involved in the likely trafficking of organs.
    The organ trafficking allegations are really little more than unsubstantiated rumors and hearsay which have been embellished by certain individuals and interests with a clear agenda. Three parallel international investigations have failed to uncover any evidence for them, and they remain entirely unsubstantiated after 10 years.

    I do agree that Kouchner is an arse, but still.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Because it was an irrelevant question. Just because they are fighting in Syria does not mean they should be fighting in vastly different situations that are geographically near by.
    They were sent to fight in Syria (mainly the Al Nusra) to 'help the people of Syria' (by removing Assad), if they really care about the people then why don't they go help the People of Egypt?
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    (Original post by Enoxial)
    They were sent to fight in Syria (mainly the Al Nusra) to 'help the people of Syria' (by removing Assad), if they really care about the people then why don't they go help the People of Egypt?
    I would't agree with that at all. People said the same about the West during Libya. Just because you aren't taking down every single dictator does not mean you should not remove one when you can do easily. Just because you aren't freeing all oppressed people everywhere does not mean you don't care about people.
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    Can't help but wonder what Assad must be thinking right now?

    What do you think will happen?
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    (Original post by MTR_10)
    Can't help but wonder what Assad must be thinking right now?

    What do you think will happen?
    I think syrians don't want to be run by al qaeda mobros.
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    (Original post by Rovey)
    I think syrians don't want to be run by al qaeda mobros.
    But if US doesn't let Syria be run by Al Qaeda then how will they make Syria one of their slaves because surely Assad will never be their Ally.
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    (Original post by nastynas)
    UN CONFIRM REBELS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS:

    http://rt.com/news/line/2013-08-28/#50527


    The UN has made such claim. Bit difficult to after their convoy was attacked. Use RT as a source at your peril
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    I think its more that rt reports on things that biased western media refuses to, and you just dont like it so its easier to dismiss rt as "biased". If rt is biased, its no more biased than western media. Are you going to tell me to "use BBC as a source at your peril"?
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    RT most certainly has significant elements of truth to it. However, on this issue they seem to have sided with the assad regime, surprise, surprise, Russia is also siding with assad. I, in my opinion believe we, the UK the US and whoever else should intervene, as it has been stated by officials of only using strategic strikes. NO BOOTS ON GROUND PLEASEEEEEEE. As for those who disagree with the view of the 'west.' I ask you why would assad delay the UN inspectors permission to conduct research, also why in the world would the 'rebels' use chemical weapons in their own strongholds. It's beyond me how they would use chemical weapons in their own areas, they have lost enough men already.
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    (Original post by L'Impératrice)
    I more and more have come to feel that Shaykh Buti had it right and that people should have put their heads down for the sake of stability. Instead we may well be witnessing the implosion of another Middle Eastern country that will lead to untold misery for an entire nation. My justification for the fighting up until now has been that it was simply unavoidable and that Asad led the rebels to a point of no return. But I have to question the wisdom of fighting a battle when so many are dying who didn't choose to fight for either side. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of refugees are streaming from Syria into Iraq (what a world), and I don't know what their future is to be. So much lost. What has been gained?
    It wouldn't cause an implosion but an explosion. That is western intervention in Syria will surely spread the conflict throughout the Middle East. Foolish thing to do...

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