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    MPs FINALLY accuse Israel of war crimes.

    Lets hope harsh and harmful economic sanctions, the likes of those imposed on Iran for far less, soon follow, as what it is doing is absolutely and utterly unacceptable.

    Israel cannot continue its mindless murder and entertain the slightest hope for impunity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWNE83j__k

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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Show me a Gazan who's died from lack of water?

    Don't bother, you can't.

    Images of Gaza some don't see, or want to see










    A waterpark -This was destroyed by Hamas



















    Now THIS is living tough - India's slums






    Inconvenient pictures for you, no doubt.




    Tell me which countries don't have such problems?

    The UK's Police force was found to be "institutionally racist"

    America's black prison population?

    Arabs Israelis are becoming more and more assimilated. Israel is still a young country and this takes time.

    There are Arabs who are supreme court judges in Israel. Arabs who head whole Hospital departments.

    The ex-prime minister of Israel was found guilty of accepting a bribe and was sentenced by an Arab judge.
    hmmm the BBC do not like to show these pics of luxury in "Palestine"... those poor refugees seem to have a better lifestyle than bear™ grrrrrr
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Ah, so Arabs are allowed to roam....conquer, pillage - but Jews aren't allowed to migrate?


    I seeeeee.
    Jewish people have problem with hamas but Jewish people are killing children.

    Shut up

    Israel didn't even exist until 1948 when UN and britian gave 56% of palestine to Israel.
    in a way,hamas is trying to earn back the land which they once had,and have lost.
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    Arab man in Israel murdered by 'palestinian' terrorist rockets
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    Israel complains about "ass bombings"...
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Arab man in Israel murdered by 'palestinian' terrorist rockets
    Are you saying that it wasn't the Palestinians but the Israeli's who did it? Can't put it past them, can you?
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    Live streaming of London demonstration.

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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    Are you saying that it wasn't the Palestinians but the Israeli's who did it? Can't put it past them, can you?
    No I'm saying the 'palestinian' indiscriminate rocket attacks have killed an Arab.
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    Live streaming of London demonstration.
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    Wow, they look like fascists.

    Quite suitable really given who they support.

    No march for Syria then eh? 200,000 killed.
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Wow, they look like fascists.

    Quite suitable really given who they support.

    No march for Syria then eh? 200,000 killed.
    Are you capable of making any points without ad hominem?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are you capable of making any points without ad hominem?
    Of course.

    You can check back on some of those posts you conveniently ignored in which I completely destroyed your points.
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    Of course.

    You can check back on some of those posts you conveniently ignored in which I completely destroyed your points.
    Well, whenever I come along and look at the last few points you always seem to be making such posts, on the rare occasion you don't it's hardly a fallacy free post.
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    Full read - http://imeu.org/article/the-neighbor...-human-shields

    In 2007, B'Tselem releases a report documenting 14 cases in which Israeli soldiers have used Palestinian civilians - including boys and girls as young as 11-years-old - as human shields to protect themselves in dangerous situations. In one case, a 14-year-old girl in Gaza is shot in the stomach and leg after soldiers used her as a human shield during an incursion.

    In October 2007, the Judge Advocate General of the Israeli army declines to prosecute an Israeli brigadier general who has ordered the use of the "prior-warning procedure" at least five times, in violation of the Supreme Court's ruling.

    During Operation Cast Lead, Israel's bloody three-week attack on Gaza in the winter of 2008-9, there are widespread reports of Israeli soldiers using Palestinian civilians as human shields. In October 2010, an Israeli military court convicts two soldiers of using a 10-year-old Palestinian boy as a human shield to open a bag that they suspect contains a bomb during Cast Lead. The two soldiers are given a three-month conditional sentence and demoted from staff sergeant to private. In response to the convictions, the author of the Israeli army's code of ethics defends the "neighbor procedure," telling a journalist, "there are situations in which the use of the enemy's civilian population to defuse a potentially explosive situation is not only ethically permissible, it also saves lives."

    In May 2011, two dozen former Israeli soldiers come forward to provide eyewitness accounts of the abuse of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli
    military, including their use as human shields.
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    I hope someday Israel and all the war crimes its governments have waged will come back to haunt them. may they burn in hell.
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    (Original post by desigirl01)

    I hope someday Israel and all the war crimes its governments have waged will come back to haunt them. may they burn in hell.
    Well, the 'palestinains' will need to be in the dock for their war crimes.


    Here is the Palestiinan Envoy to the UN human rights council admitting that 'palestinians' might find themselves in the dock before Israel

    Israel warns civilians, we don't!

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    Here are Hamas telling Arabs in Israel that they are totally safe and their rockets are only aimed at Jews.




    One Israeli civilian died after sustaining critical injuries from a rocket attack near Dimona on Saturday afternoon. Four other people, including two young children, were wounded in the attack and were evacuated to a hospital for medical treatment.

    Paramedics pronounced the death of the Beduin man in his 30s after resuscitation attempts at the scene.
    Arab man killed in Israel by rockets from Gaza.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    It's nothing particularly special, if you can track a target and direct your own weapon with in flight control all you have to do is hook up both systems to the same computer.

    The laser one does the same sort of thing, but uses a laser to heat up the fuel to make the rocket blow up. Tbh, I don't see it being practical enough for wide spread use, maybe just as a last resort or something given inverse square laws and the likes. Potential hazzards are there too, and it has been in development for soooooooooo long now with somewhat limited success.

    EDIT: Iron beam is expected to be installed next year, but is reserved for targets too small for iron dome, it's a secondary system for lesser threats in essence. It has measly range of 7K m (which means they are unlikely to add mlre civil aviation shoot downs to their list with it) vs dome's 70, although they wish to make dome cover 100 miles.
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    ok thanks for all the help
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    (Original post by Qari)
    ok thanks for all the help
    When he says it's "nothing special" - he's of course downplaying it because he's anti-Israel.

    The Iron Dome is extremely sophisticated and very few such systems exist. The Iron Dome is the only system to have been tested to the extent this has and has a higher intercept record than all other systems.

    When Israel initially considered producing this system, the Americans told them to forget it as it was too difficult and the results would not be worth it.

    Well, it's basically saved hundreds of lives.
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    Israel's been the aggressor since it's creation, Hamas are retaliating by firing rockets but somehow it's the other way around.They want those oil fields.Do people forget Israel's terrorism against the USA? I doubt it since most America's are brainwashed with all mainstream media being Jewish owned. Israel is no friend of America's, and America's only friends with Israel for the same reason Britain is.
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    (Original post by Chindits)
    When he says it's "nothing special" - he's of course downplaying it because he's anti-Israel.

    The Iron Dome is extremely sophisticated and very few such systems exist. The Iron Dome is the only system to have been tested to the extent this has and has a higher intercept record than all other systems.

    When Israel initially considered producing this system, the Americans told them to forget it as it was too difficult and the results would not be worth it.

    Well, it's basically saved hundreds of lives.
    Yes, the Iron Dome is very sophisticated and yes it does its job very well.

    So, why should Israel still bomb the homes, hospitals and schools of civilians? It got those 4 Israeli lives back... almost fifty-fold. An injustice that certainly does not warrant further aggression from them. The rockets from Hamas are flying more than ever, so obviously it isn't doing the job. In fact, it has become a great opportunity for those opposed towards Israel to rally together and spread their ideals all around the world - which you have faced the grunt of first-hand. And with the actions committed, the disdain is well-deserved by the Israeli government.

    Do you think Hamas, which you see as terrorists, will stop for civilians being blown up. They - according to you and other Israeli-sympathiser's recounts - cower in hospitals and schools marked by the UN as safe zones!

    Let us be realistic about it, friend. The conflict itself in sheer firepower is clearly in Israel's favor. But that's not what Hamas are bothering with old Soviet and Chinese rockets smuggled through the Sinai for. This conflict was a cry for help from Palestine - or at least a call for change from their current circumstances. Israel is simply not letting Gaza flourish. Fishing, building materials, food and other goods people need to actually enjoy their lives are hampered by Israel. Only half of them, on average, go through the borders. No wonder the backbone of Gaza's economy were makeshift sand tunnels panning miles! The arteries of any kind of prosperity left in Gaza cut clean by Egypt. So, what should Hamas do? Starve? Accept an ever tighter Israeli vice on their collars and wrists? No. They will fight. They will try and get the attention of you and I for some water, or even the fish in their own waters! Do you understand now what the point of this bloodshed was? Do you understand why support for Hamas within Gaza has only increased - like in every other conflict? These people are in trouble!
 
 
 
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