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    (Original post by Aph)
    Not at all. Tell people 'either you sell your house and make money or you refuse to sell and we will take it by force'

    Have people report empty houses for a £500 reward?
    Wouldn't go down well and you would have to pay them for the value of the houses you can't just evict them.

    Who would snitch on someone for £500
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Add fines and/or prison sentences which make it a daft bet not to self-report, given inspection frequency.



    #aphtheliberal

    (going to be using this hashtag until you join the socialists )
    Very bad the people will not be in support of that, what about property tycoons who invest in buildings. What i would do to get around it if i had two houses i would use one for my businesses headquaters and list it as an asset on the balance sheet, therefore can not be taken away
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Wouldn't go down well and you would have to pay them for the value of the houses you can't just evict them.
    Why not?

    Who would snitch on someone for £500
    A great, great many people. Not everyone has enough money to have multiple houses. This is especially when someone's being as immoral as to engage in tax evasion.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Why not?



    A great, great many people. Not everyone has enough money to have multiple houses. This is especially when someone's being as immoral as to engage in tax evasion.
    Why not - if someone has paid 250k or above for an house for you to throw them out. Would you allow it in exceptional circumstances?

    Who mentioned tax evasion.
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Wouldn't go down well and you would have to pay them for the value of the houses you can't just evict them.

    Who would snitch on someone for £500
    You can... The government has the authority to do what it likes. People know the rules...

    Yeah I would. People snitch on others for nothing, £500 is a great insentive.p
    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    #aphtheliberal(going to be using this hashtag until you join the socialists )
    I think you'll find I'm a better asset in the liberals dragging them left wing then I would be in the socalists
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    A manifesto does not have to declare either policies or intentions.
    You've literally just said this:
    'A manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party or government.'

    You could, but it wouldn't be consistent with what I said.
    Yes it would:
    When people vote their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote and/or what their values are...You have all wasted your time.
    Ipso facto, your party has no point existing because "their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote", and since there is no RL Nat Libs, no-one will vote for them.
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Who would snitch on someone for £500
    I would.



    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    A great, great many people.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    I would.
    in the words of bus lightyear You sad, strange little man.
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Very bad the people will not be in support of that, what about property tycoons who invest in buildings. What i would do to get around it if i had two houses i would use one for my businesses headquaters and list it as an asset on the balance sheet, therefore can not be taken away
    The people are actually somewhat economically left-wing when questioned on policies, they're just also patriotic and know nothing about economics. Property tycoons ought to make sure their properties are occupied, then there will be no problem - if they're just buying property and sitting on it while the value rises, them going out of business is a good thing.

    Using one for a business is fine, but it can easily be discovered if it is a 'sham' business. Also, you say 'it cannot be taken away' - you understand we're talking about CHANGING THE LAW here right? It's irrelevant what the existing law provides for.

    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    Why not - if someone has paid 250k or above for an house for you to throw them out. Would you allow it in exceptional circumstances?
    Yeah you've just stated what's happening, but not why that's a bad thing.

    Who mentioned tax evasion.
    You're literally talking about tax evasion by definition. If someone fails to report the fact that a property is empty when empty properties are taxed, that is tax evasion, pure and simple.

    (Original post by Aph)
    You can... The government has the authority to do what it likes. People know the rules...

    Yeah I would. People snitch on others for nothing, £500 is a great insentive.p
    I think you'll find I'm a better asset in the liberals dragging them left wing then I would be in the socalists
    I just find it hilarious that you're a liberal member when you're about as authoritarian as I am!
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    I would.
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    in the words of bus lightyear You sad, strange little man.
    I'd do it for free!

    Not doing it is immoral because you're allowing immoral activity to continue. 'Snitches get stitches' or whatever ******** logic you're using is ridiculous. Would you say someone is a 'sad, strange little man' if they report someone stealing from you?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Ipso facto, your party has no point existing because "their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote", and since there is no RL Nat Libs, no-one will vote for them.
    You failed to register the entire sentence:

    When people vote their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote and/or what their values are.

    You also failed to register that someone being raised to vote for the Lib Dems may interpret their recent corruption as contrary to how they were raised to vote and may seek out an alternative which more closely aligns with what they were raised to support.
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    in the words of bus lightyear You sad, strange little man.
    Mate there was a poll not long back "Would you rather spend a night with Emilia Clarke or have £3000".

    And the majority of people took the money.

    And she's a fine-looking young one.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I just find it hilarious that you're a liberal member when you're about as authoritarian as I am!
    i was actually thinking about that today. And I guess it depends on how you define 'liberal'
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    (Original post by Aph)
    i was actually thinking about that today. And I guess it depends on how you define 'liberal'
    I'd say the most liberal person possible is an anarcho-communist (the poor, deluded soul), but I know certain members think that it would be an ancap (the scum).
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I'd do it for free!

    Not doing it is immoral because you're allowing immoral activity to continue. 'Snitches get stitches' or whatever ******** logic you're using is ridiculous. Would you say someone is a 'sad, strange little man' if they report someone stealing from you?
    different kettle of fish- technically this policy is a theft
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    different kettle of fish- technically this policy is a theft
    No, it's not. Theft and property are both legal constructs. Tax evasion is very close to theft, however.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    No, it's not. Theft and property are both legal constructs. Tax evasion is very close to theft, however.
    I dont see how this has anything to do with it. Building more houses it the answer to it not stealing houses of others and giving them to any tom, **** or harry
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    (Original post by ChildOfTony)
    I dont see how this has anything to do with it. Building more houses it the answer to it not stealing houses of others and giving them to any tom, **** or harry
    I'm not advocating taking houses (it's not theft if the government legislates to do it), just taxing them to create a large incentive to sell or populate empty residential property.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I'd say the most liberal person possible is an anarcho-communist (the poor, deluded soul), but I know certain members think that it would be an ancap (the scum).
    I'm an anarcho-communist according to PC. I also support a lot of their ideas, at least last time I checked.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'm an anarcho-communist according to PC. I also support a lot of their ideas, at least last time I checked.
    really? It seems a lot of your ideas require a state.
 
 
 
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