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    (Original post by Ratchit99)
    Thats awesome, congrats. Make sure you put your feet up, have a nice glass of wine and relax x
    Thanks! Actually, despite a lifetime of teaching, I don't drink, but I shall be hitting the chocolate! It's trips week next week, so I shall be on lots of coaches to places but I'm not responsible for anything, just making up numbers. Could be worse.
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    It's only just hit me that I no longer have an income and am living off my savings with no job lined up. I don't know why it's taken so long to hit me but sat in my hotel room I was thinking about what I'm going to do when I get home and then I realised I can't do much...I will have no income for the foreseeable future. Anxiety setting in...

    I am going to sign up for supply. I don't know much about it though. Is it enough for a reliable income? How often do you get work?

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    Thanks! Actually, despite a lifetime of teaching, I don't drink, but I shall be hitting the chocolate! It's trips week next week, so I shall be on lots of coaches to places but I'm not responsible for anything, just making up numbers. Could be worse.
    Congratulations, I can't imagine the relief you must feel!

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    It's only just hit me that I no longer have an income and am living off my savings with no job lined up. I don't know why it's taken so long to hit me but sat in my hotel room I was thinking about what I'm going to do when I get home and then I realised I can't do much...I will have no income for the foreseeable future. Anxiety setting in...

    I am going to sign up for supply. I don't know much about it though. Is it enough for a reliable income? How often do you get work?



    Congratulations, I can't imagine the relief you must feel!

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    From what I was told during my induction day to my NQT school, sometimes it's better to become a cover supervisor that's hired by a school rather than an agency?
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    It's only just hit me that I no longer have an income and am living off my savings with no job lined up. I don't know why it's taken so long to hit me but sat in my hotel room I was thinking about what I'm going to do when I get home and then I realised I can't do much...I will have no income for the foreseeable future. Anxiety setting in...

    I am going to sign up for supply. I don't know much about it though. Is it enough for a reliable income? How often do you get work?
    In response to this and Samus' post below...

    Supply varies from week to week and can depend on whereabouts you are in the country.

    I did agency Cover Supervisor work in the year before my PGCE. At first (January) it was rubbish. In one week I only did 0.5 days work, other weeks were 1-2 days. Some of this was exams invigilation/TA work rather than covering lessons so the rate of pay was lower (£45-£55 per day).

    Once I'd been doing it for a while it got better. I think some schools gave the agency positive feedback of my work and asked for me back. By March I was doing 2 days per week as a TA in a PRU and 1-2 days of cover in various schools. I then went to a school for what was supposed to be a day or two of cover, which then turned into 5 weeks when they found I was a languages specialist. After that role ended, things really picked up - I was getting 4-5 days per week, and then landed another long-term cover role in my subject, this time for 10 weeks.

    I may have had an advantage in that I was a language specialist but not a qualified teacher at the time, so they could pay me less (I was on £65 as a Cover Supervisor, but negociated £80 for the longer term MFL roles, but it's still significantly less than a qualified teacher).

    But a friend of mine started supply in September (having just done her NQT year, but she was leaving in December to go travelling so just needed something for a couple of months) and had more or less the same experience as me - slow going at the start, but once she'd been to a couple of schools she started to build up a reputation and the same schools asked for her back so she was getting 3-4 days per week, mostly in the same couple of schools. She turned down any work at Cover Supervisor rates and this didn't seem to be detrimental to the amount of work she was offered.

    Hope this helps.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Congratulations, I can't imagine the relief you must feel!
    Thanks. It's not really registered yet, though. Just another summer holiday. It'll be September that is different.

    I am sorry for your situation. I can't offer a solution, I'm afraid, but vacancies do often crop up out of the blue and you'll be in the perfect position to snap them up.
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    Don't mean to hijack your guys conversation but this thread seems an appropriate place to ask!

    I'm volunteering as much as possible in primary schools to build up my experience, get used to expectations etc. I'm looking to do some reading aswell though to clue myself up.
    Can anyone recommend any good teaching books? Specifically primary. I've Seen 'how to teach' by Phil beadle but I understand this is mostly secondary teaching advice.
    'How to be an outstanding primary teacher' is the only primary based one I've seen, is it any good? Any reccomendations welcome!
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    From what I was told during my induction day to my NQT school, sometimes it's better to become a cover supervisor that's hired by a school rather than an agency?
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    In response to this and Samus' post below...

    Supply varies from week to week and can depend on whereabouts you are in the country.

    I did agency Cover Supervisor work in the year before my PGCE. At first (January) it was rubbish. In one week I only did 0.5 days work, other weeks were 1-2 days. Some of this was exams invigilation/TA work rather than covering lessons so the rate of pay was lower (£45-£55 per day).

    Once I'd been doing it for a while it got better. I think some schools gave the agency positive feedback of my work and asked for me back. By March I was doing 2 days per week as a TA in a PRU and 1-2 days of cover in various schools. I then went to a school for what was supposed to be a day or two of cover, which then turned into 5 weeks when they found I was a languages specialist. After that role ended, things really picked up - I was getting 4-5 days per week, and then landed another long-term cover role in my subject, this time for 10 weeks.

    I may have had an advantage in that I was a language specialist but not a qualified teacher at the time, so they could pay me less (I was on £65 as a Cover Supervisor, but negociated £80 for the longer term MFL roles, but it's still significantly less than a qualified teacher).

    But a friend of mine started supply in September (having just done her NQT year, but she was leaving in December to go travelling so just needed something for a couple of months) and had more or less the same experience as me - slow going at the start, but once she'd been to a couple of schools she started to build up a reputation and the same schools asked for her back so she was getting 3-4 days per week, mostly in the same couple of schools. She turned down any work at Cover Supervisor rates and this didn't seem to be detrimental to the amount of work she was offered.

    Hope this helps.
    Thanks for these replies. Very informative.

    I am avoiding cover supervisor roles mainly because they don't require you to have QTS, hence the pay is lower. I'd consider it eventually but for now I want to see what I'd get with standard supply and see what happens.

    Incidentally I have applied for one cover supervisor role because it was combined with pastoral work and it sounded quite good. I don't think it's closed yet though.

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    (Original post by Sarahs.cheddars)
    Don't mean to hijack your guys conversation but this thread seems an appropriate place to ask!

    I'm volunteering as much as possible in primary schools to build up my experience, get used to expectations etc. I'm looking to do some reading aswell though to clue myself up.
    Can anyone recommend any good teaching books? Specifically primary. I've Seen 'how to teach' by Phil beadle but I understand this is mostly secondary teaching advice.
    'How to be an outstanding primary teacher' is the only primary based one I've seen, is it any good? Any reccomendations welcome!
    Sarah x
    One book that I've recently purchased is this one.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/What-everyth...dp/1845909631/

    Haven't read it yet but from a brief glance it contains a fair amount of cognitive theory that you probably will and won't touch upon during your PGCE. As a psychology student, I'm pretty much a sucker for these things though.

    Haven't said that, some of the suggestions given in the book probably won't actually be that welcomed in the class you will be teaching. For example, the idea of making things difficult to challenge students, whilst good in theory, is an absolute nightmare when trying it in the class if you don't do it properly. You sometimes end up with just lots of confused students and the observers thinking "You needed to model/guide that better."
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    From what I was told during my induction day to my NQT school, sometimes it's better to become a cover supervisor that's hired by a school rather than an agency?
    What's induction like? I'm terrified that I don't know what's going to happen and I'd rather be prepared!
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    What's induction like? I'm terrified that I don't know what's going to happen and I'd rather be prepared!
    My induction day was amazingly boring. It was info like-

    Security codes on doors
    Fire escape plans
    Photocopying etiquette
    SLT framework
    School policies
    etc etc
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    It's only just hit me that I no longer have an income and am living off my savings with no job lined up. I don't know why it's taken so long to hit me but sat in my hotel room I was thinking about what I'm going to do when I get home and then I realised I can't do much...I will have no income for the foreseeable future. Anxiety setting in...

    I am going to sign up for supply. I don't know much about it though. Is it enough for a reliable income? How often do you get work?



    Congratulations, I can't imagine the relief you must feel!

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    The tips I were given were, speak to tutors and keep in touch with course mates as they may have links for you to find something, and go in person to schools, perhaps with a little cvish thing about you as a teacher who a picture so they remember who you are, as many schools don't like to hire random supply people through an agency because they have no idea who they're getting. You could even volunteer or visit for a short time at some schools. It's a good experience to see how different schools work while you have the time and it also gives them a chance to see and know you.

    Also look in to whether your county council has their own supply list as this won't involve agency fees, fees if you get a permanent job etc.


    (Original post by Sarahs.cheddars)
    Don't mean to hijack your guys conversation but this thread seems an appropriate place to ask!

    I'm volunteering as much as possible in primary schools to build up my experience, get used to expectations etc. I'm looking to do some reading aswell though to clue myself up.
    Can anyone recommend any good teaching books? Specifically primary. I've Seen 'how to teach' by Phil beadle but I understand this is mostly secondary teaching advice.
    'How to be an outstanding primary teacher' is the only primary based one I've seen, is it any good? Any reccomendations welcome!
    Sarah x
    Our uni recommended several books and set a project to do with childrens lives. So reading lots of books about the life of children, things like Anita and me and The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time, plus lots of childrens books (it can be handy to keep a spreadsheet by topic so you can easily find them again when you teach a certain thing). Also things about childhood... One on our list was " the story of childhood", which had writing about several real children.

    If you're looking for something more heavy I'd recommend Children, their world, their education: the Cambridge primary review (can't remember if the first part of the title is precisely right!). Or at least, some of it lol. It's very big. Probably a library job rather than a buy!

    I also read Reading Under Control before I started. I don't think that sort of thing is necessary by any means but I think it did help as I already knew and understood all the technical phonics terms etc before starting which some people didn't.

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    Thank you for the book suggestions, I will definitely have a look at them! Any more suggestions welcome
    Thanks, sarah
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    Does anyone know how failing a PGCE impacts on the uni? Is it in any statistics/ofsted? I'm just worried about passing these two essays that I have to resit and wanted to know if the lecturers have an incentive to help me, because they've been really unhelpful and untrustworthy so far.

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    Hey all, hope those who've finished the course are enjoying a well-deserved break.

    I'm due to start NQT induction in Sept...in the meantime my head of dept asked me to come in for a few weeks to do cover. I started this last week and didn't much enjoy it!

    I seemed to be covering classes whose teachers have been off sick for a long while..so they've had loads of different supply teachers...and to put it bluntly, they seem to have gone a bit wild! The HOD and other teachers have been backing me up with behaviour but at some points I felt like the kids see me as 'just another supply'; I'd lost complete control. Really demoralising start, the opposite of the 'clean slate/here are my rules' I was hoping to implement in Sept.

    Plus I'm only being paid from (I guess) the bottom of the unqualified payscale...doing 4/5 lessons a day...it feels a bit much really.

    Any advice? Is this normal?
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    (Oh and for those looking for 'alternative to teaching' jobs...I saw a job advertised the other day...'education officer' in a museum...doing tours and activities with kids. Really low paid (15k) but I would imagine a lot less stress and a lot of fun.
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    (Original post by Mr Student)
    I feel the same. However, what kills me the most is that I am starting to question the relevance of my subjects (Economics, Business, and ICT to KS3). If you asked me to honestly say whether I thought that what I teach is equipping kids for the real world of work, I'd have to say no. My main subjects (Business and Economics, and there's more Business than Economics going on in the teaching world these days) generally require students to remember facts and write essays. My school is a production line where all the senior leaders care about are grades, grades, grades and maintaining Outstanding status. We have a couple of students who will leave with 16 GCSEs across 4 BTEC subjects: Travel, Business, PE (with no physical element) and Childcare Studies. How is it possible that they don't do English and Maths? Surely they'd be better off with 8 GCSEs incl. Eng, Maths and Science?

    I know education is a political football that politicians like to kick around but I personally think that there's a lot of room for improvement. Not to make teachers' lives hell, but to allow the students to get ahead in life. Then again, if you take a back to basics approach you may create another elitist system which isolates students who don't find it engaging. This profession goes over my head. I just don't know how we can best provide young people with an education ...
    i have few friends who have been released from prison in the last year or so and they describe their time in there to their school life. set breaks. set working hours. obey do not question the man in charge. frightening.

    Most schools these days are literally designed as prisons.

    makes me think of Orwell, 1984
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Does anyone know how failing a PGCE impacts on the uni? Is it in any statistics/ofsted? I'm just worried about passing these two essays that I have to resit and wanted to know if the lecturers have an incentive to help me, because they've been really unhelpful and untrustworthy so far.

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    I think Ofsted only cares about the vocational side of the course (i.e. QTS and teaching things). The academic qualification is in a limbo I think. Your subject tutor should be supporting you, btw.
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    I've got an inset day at my NQT school this week.... I'm so nervous! I hate the 'first day' anywhere new. I think there's a few new teachers starting, so at least I won't be the only newbie
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Does anyone know how failing a PGCE impacts on the uni? Is it in any statistics/ofsted? I'm just worried about passing these two essays that I have to resit and wanted to know if the lecturers have an incentive to help me, because they've been really unhelpful and untrustworthy so far.

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    I wondered about this too. I think the reason I was under so much pressure to withdraw was because of their stats. They gave me 48 hours to withdraw when I've since realised they can't put it through the system until a certain date anyway! Do you have the opportunity to resist your essays?

    (Original post by greenbeans123)
    (Oh and for those looking for 'alternative to teaching' jobs...I saw a job advertised the other day...'education officer' in a museum...doing tours and activities with kids. Really low paid (15k) but I would imagine a lot less stress and a lot of fun.
    Yeah I have just applied to be an education officer at a football club! These jobs are uncommon but look fun.
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    What's induction like? I'm terrified that I don't know what's going to happen and I'd rather be prepared!
    My first day involved the admin side of things - who the relevant people were
    tour of the school
    staff conduct
    staffroom/lunch arrangements
    Department time
    SIMS training

    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Does anyone know how failing a PGCE impacts on the uni? Is it in any statistics/ofsted? I'm just worried about passing these two essays that I have to resit and wanted to know if the lecturers have an incentive to help me, because they've been really unhelpful and untrustworthy so far.

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    (Original post by Juichiro)
    I think Ofsted only cares about the vocational side of the course (i.e. QTS and teaching things). The academic qualification is in a limbo I think. Your subject tutor should be supporting you, btw.
    Failing the academic side of things will impact on the university just as much as the teaching side of things. It all goes to the individual tutors statistics and reports. Even if you passed the essay at level 6, that'd be on the tutors record that 98% managed a level 7 pass and 2% didn't
 
 
 
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