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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'm saying that just because of its origins doesn't mean it can't be applied differently.
    If youre not for democracy then you cant be a democrat.

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    Anyone who sees Aph's dual-membership as anything more than a technicality is trying to exploit the precise wording of non-binding rules for their own gain. Whether Aph should be a member of the Labour party is for the party as a whole to decide (and I'm sure Aph, given his history with the party, will understand the reasons for the reticence), and, to be frank, most of what's been posted in the last few pages is nothing but baseless speculation.

    Personally, I do believe that Aph would fit better in the Socialist party, but aside from his present defection (which I suspect is largely due to finding Government policy abhorrent, as any reasonable man would), he generally seems to prefer being in Government, which, to be frank, is unlikely for the Socialists in the near future, unless the Liberals decide they prefer social liberalism and economic justice over economic liberalism and the social policy of a 19th century member of the landed gentry.

    Also, regarding people seeming to take potential mental health issues, even stress, as some kind of value-less excuse: I've never had mental health issues either, but still, I have the good grace to understand that just because someone's shin-bone isn't visibly poking out through their skin, it doesn't mean all is well. Accordingly I suggest the individuals in question, who know who they are, back the **** off.
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    I sincerely apologise to whoever it was I offended with my post saying mhoc is filled with a bunch of irrational idiots.
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    I sincerely apologise to whoever it was I offended with my post saying mhoc is filled with a bunch of irrational idiots.
    Nice leprechaun. :yep:
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Anyone who sees Aph's dual-membership as anything more than a technicality is trying to exploit the precise wording of non-binding rules for their own gain. Whether Aph should be a member of the Labour party is for the party as a whole to decide (and I'm sure Aph, given his history with the party, will understand the reasons for the reticence), and, to be frank, most of what's been posted in the last few pages is nothing but baseless speculation.

    Personally, I do believe that Aph would fit better in the Socialist party, but aside from his present defection (which I suspect is largely due to finding Government policy abhorrent, as any reasonable man would), he generally seems to prefer being in Government, which, to be frank, is unlikely for the Socialists in the near future, unless the Liberals decide they prefer social liberalism and economic justice over economic liberalism and the social policy of a 19th century member of the landed gentry.

    Also, regarding people seeming to take potential mental health issues, even stress, as some kind of value-less excuse: I've never had mental health issues either, but still, I have the good grace to understand that just because someone's shin-bone isn't visibly poking out through their skin, it doesn't mean all is well. Accordingly I suggest the individuals in question, who know who they are, back the **** off.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Anyone who sees Aph's dual-membership as anything more than a technicality is trying to exploit the precise wording of non-binding rules for their own gain. Whether Aph should be a member of the Labour party is for the party as a whole to decide (and I'm sure Aph, given his history with the party, will understand the reasons for the reticence), and, to be frank, most of what's been posted in the last few pages is nothing but baseless speculation.

    Also, regarding people seeming to take potential mental health issues, even stress, as some kind of value-less excuse: I've never had mental health issues either, but still, I have the good grace to understand that just because someone's shin-bone isn't visibly poking out through their skin, it doesn't mean all is well. Accordingly I suggest the individuals in question, who know who they are, back the **** off.
    I will not comment on the middle paragraph, hence its deletion from my quote of your post. You sir, have hit the nail on the head once again and I thank you for your very thoughtful and well-reasoned post.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I also believe that with people aproaching 70, they were brought up in a different time, there are at least 2 generations between them and the youth of today so they will often have outdated veiws not in line with the realities of life.
    Why are the realities of their life less real than the realities of your life?
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Why are the realities of their life less real than the realities of your life?
    Because aph believes himself to be omnipotent, though often coming across rather impotent instead.

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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
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    Why are the ‘ex-’ in your signature in parentheses? You're just that: a former PM and Labour leader. Why do you even need to make it so huge? You're a regular MP now. :dontknow:
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Anyone who sees Aph's dual-membership as anything more than a technicality is trying to exploit the precise wording of non-binding rules for their own gain. Whether Aph should be a member of the Labour party is for the party as a whole to decide (and I'm sure Aph, given his history with the party, will understand the reasons for the reticence), and, to be frank, most of what's been posted in the last few pages is nothing but baseless speculation.

    Personally, I do believe that Aph would fit better in the Socialist party, but aside from his present defection (which I suspect is largely due to finding Government policy abhorrent, as any reasonable man would), he generally seems to prefer being in Government, which, to be frank, is unlikely for the Socialists in the near future, unless the Liberals decide they prefer social liberalism and economic justice over economic liberalism and the social policy of a 19th century member of the landed gentry.

    Also, regarding people seeming to take potential mental health issues, even stress, as some kind of value-less excuse: I've never had mental health issues either, but still, I have the good grace to understand that just because someone's shin-bone isn't visibly poking out through their skin, it doesn't mean all is well. Accordingly I suggest the individuals in question, who know who they are, back the **** off.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Why are the ‘ex-’ in your signature in parentheses? You're just that: a former PM and Labour leader. Why do you even need to make it so huge? You're a regular MP now. :dontknow:
    Oh, I'm much more than that.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Oh, I'm much more than that.
    You wish
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Oh, I'm much more than that.
    What's that? Quam's concubine? :awesome:
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    What's that? Quam's concubine? :awesome:
    Someone's part of the Neil Hamilton school of political insults.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    What's that? Quam's concubine? :awesome:
    Guilty, I am indeed

    "a modern contemporary restaurant that fuses flavours of the orient with fresh local produce, showcasing South Australia's best."

    http://concubine.com.au/
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Guilty, I am indeed

    "a modern contemporary restaurant that fuses flavours of the orient with fresh local produce, showcasing South Australia's best."

    http://concubine.com.au/
    :eek:
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Guilty, I am indeed

    "a modern contemporary restaurant that fuses flavours of the orient with fresh local produce, showcasing South Australia's best."

    http://concubine.com.au/
    I see, quam is eating from your belly! That explains a lot.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    quote quote
    emmald583 will be proxying for the vacant seat until the conclusion of the MP election.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    emmald583 will be proxying for the vacant seat until the conclusion of the MP election.
    Understood.

    Don't forget she will need to apply to the MP usergroup.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Understood.

    Don't forget she will need to apply to the MP usergroup.
    I have asked her to do that - you might to need to remind her.
 
 
 
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