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    (Original post by jam278)
    Man'll go to where your sister works with the fab no.4 shirt in a Chelsea kit.

    I only see Gnabry making it out the current crop tbh. Tbh if Wenger think he's that good a player that's probably why he ain't going for a proper winger. Will see more of him next season, or he'll be loaned to a premier league team.

    You have enough depth at LB, Jenkinson will probably assume RB, you've got 3 quality CBs. Don't see any other youth you've got.
    Zelalem and Crowley are two of the best prospects we've had in years. Expect to see them both in the League Cup this year.
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    The Fabregas transfer to Chelsea will only be countered if we strengthen in positions with world class players. That is a world class striker, CDM and a real talented RB.

    Thing is, unless players arnt available, Wenger doesn't seem to go for them. Fabregas was available and I'm concerned that he would be our only world class target.

    This is me being pessemistic, it's me making an assumption based on previous transfer windows.

    Here is what I'm envious about, when another top flight team wants a player- they'll get him. Why can't Arsenal do that? Why do we only settle for what's on the market?
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    (Original post by jam278)
    Man'll go to where your sister works with the fab no.4 shirt in a Chelsea kit.

    I only see Gnabry making it out the current crop tbh. Tbh if Wenger think he's that good a player that's probably why he ain't going for a proper winger. Will see more of him next season, or he'll be loaned to a premier league team.

    You have enough depth at LB, Jenkinson will probably assume RB, you've got 3 quality CBs. Don't see any other youth you've got.
    lmao go for it, she has some poverty hipster BVB fan on the go atm. wouldn't go with the chelsea kit though, she'll think you're special needs or suttin.

    gnabry isn't composed enough for weekly first team football yet imo would prefer walcott/ox to take his space up for now, would like to see him in league/FA cup next year but shouldn't be touching CL next season. Would like to send him out on loan to QPR or somethin though.

    Don't mind Jenko tbf, got a good engine and just needs gametime to iron out some decision making errors. We've got a few youth but don't think any are ready to move up yet, even Zelalem who is prophesised to go god mode when he gets in to the first team is nowhere near. Bellerin, Akpom and co. are kind of on the verge but don't think they'll break in either.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Getting sick of all this whining. We don't ****ing need Fabregas and stop saying " depth this and depth that" because depth can still be bought.


    Ramsey > Fabregas next season I'm calling it now.

    Stop with this " we can keep fabregas when Ramsey and co are injured" because Cesc is much more than a squad player. We're much better off buying a real CDM and like Ornstein has tweeted, we're prioritising one.

    Can you seriously imagine an XI with Cazorla/Ozil/Fabregas all on at the same time? We already have enough playmakers.

    It's unfortunate that he'd go to Chelsea of all Clubs and yes it only makes things harder. That doesn't mean we're just gonna spunk out 30m for Fabregas "just so Chelsea can't have him" when realistically they'd end up buying some one else like Koke or similar.

    Don't get me wrong, Arsene has to win the league next year, if not then 2nd place ( as long as Chelsea weren't first). But you guys are having some next crisis as if the seasons already over. We could afford Cesc, so if Wenger has rejected this deal he's probably got something bigger lined up. Stop expecting to hear our potential signings through the media because I'm sure they're going to be discreet until it actually happens.
    Thank God someone with some sense on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!11
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    Personally I would sell Santi and buy Fabregas. Solved.
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    (Original post by C.Almasy)
    Personally I would sell Santi and buy Fabregas. Solved.
    I partially agree. People are being so short sighted. Arteta, Flamini, Santi, Rosicky aren't getting younger in the next 2/3 years they should all have left or retired. Cesc is in his prime maybe 7/8 years left before he retires.
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    I partially agree. People are being so short sighted. Arteta, Flamini, Santi, Rosicky aren't getting younger in the next 2/3 years they should all have left or retired. Cesc is in his prime maybe 7/8 years left before he retires.
    I think he believes Chamberlain can play in the middle still. God, I really hope Wenger is making the right decision this time. Maybe he knows something about Cesc we don't? Maybe he has more suitable players lined up? You know, if he ****s this up then the backlash will be huge. We're not in austerity anymore ffs. Chelsea will have Matic and Cesc in CDM... that is as good if not better than our midfield. Although yes, they would have just bought Pogba or Koke anyway.
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    imo the main priorities this window (apart from replacing those leaving) are a striker, a left winger and a defensive mid.

    i'd say left wing is the most important, as cazorla or podolski just don't have the pace we need with giroud up front - we need players running in behind. Chamberlain and walcott on either wing would be great but one or both are injured most of the time. if we buy a world class winger then i'd actually be content (not happy) with giroud staying as our first choice striker (and buying a back-up).

    for defensive midfield, i think we could try out vermaelen there. he's too talented to be a squad player, and he knows this which is why he might be leaving. he's still our captain, he's an excellent tackler and is good on the ball as well. it may not work out in practice but its an idea, not sure if anyone has mentioned it already here. if we did do this then clearly we would need to buy a new third choice centre back. if not we definitely need to buy a dm.

    These are our priorities, not buying a new playmaker when we already have more than enough. People said we didn't need ozil last year, so we definitely don't need fabregas now. ramsey will continue to improve, and people seem to have forgotten wilshere's quality - i'm sure he'll be fighting for ramsey's place in the team next season.
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    So we have a supposed budget of £100m, I doubt we'll realistically spend anymore than £75m. As much as I love Cesc, blowing 40% of our transfer budget for a non-essential acquisition is ludicrous. We have no control over who else goes in for him, and as much as his return would be quality...id much rather that £30m was saved and spent on a truly world class striker.

    I don't get the reaction from the fans...I know Cesc is an Arsenal legend, but ultimately hed simply be a slight upgrade on cazorla...there is really no point for 30m. Right now I'm remaining patient. IF we are reserving this cash to strengthen where it really matters then it is a great decision, I know it will be painful seeing Cesc play for Chelsea, but again I think they are well equipped in his position and ultimately hes only a slight upgrade on their present players too!

    Please withhold judgement till the end of the transfer window. All of you fickle *******s will be rimming Wenger come August if we sign Aurier, Bender, Balotelli Griezmann (or equivalent)...its too early to judge our entire transfer policy based on the rejection of a non-essential player. In August I'll join you if we repeat our previous dire transfer exploits,however, as ever the naive optimistic, I reckon Wenger will do us proud.
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    (Original post by C.Almasy)
    I think he believes Chamberlain can play in the middle still. God, I really hope Wenger is making the right decision this time. Maybe he knows something about Cesc we don't? Maybe he has more suitable players lined up? You know, if he ****s this up then the backlash will be huge. We're not in austerity anymore ffs. Chelsea will have Matic and Cesc in CDM... that is as good if not better than our midfield. Although yes, they would have just bought Pogba or Koke anyway.
    No one in the current Arsenal midfield is better than Cesc. That is a fact.

    People are banking on Wenger to buy World class players to prove signing Cesc was not necessary. I'm looking at the market and what World class DM are available? We'll see who we sign and if they live up to our expectations. There no guarantee any money will be spent on the quality we need, just look at last summer.

    I'm not having that Chelsea would have just bought someone BS. Name me one player with the consistency at the highest level and Premier league experience Cesc has with a price tag under £30M. Cesc is world Class people are forgetting this.
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    (Original post by Kim-Jong-Illest)
    just waiting for the podolski tweet now. #friends #teammates #fun #injury #england #recovery #kneeligament
    You missed '#aha'

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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    No one in the current Arsenal midfield is better than Cesc. That is a fact.

    People are banking on Wenger to buy World class players to prove signing Cesc was not necessary. I'm looking at the market and what World class DM are available? We'll see who we sign and if they live up to our expectations. There no guarantee any money will be spent on the quality we need, just look at last summer.

    I'm not having that Chelsea would have just bought someone BS. Name me one player with the consistency at the highest level and Premier league experience Cesc has with a price tag under £30M. Cesc is world Class people are forgetting this.
    For 25m it is a no brainer. Cesc is miles ahead of Santi. I am actually livid. From a purely emotional perspective as a fan, it shows a TOTAL lack of pride. I mean, COME ON! He was the captain. And he is being let go to Chelsea even with our clause? It is ridiculous.
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    (Original post by C.Almasy)
    For 25m it is a no brainer. Cesc is miles ahead of Santi. I am actually livid. From a purely emotional perspective as a fan, it shows a TOTAL lack of pride. I mean, COME ON! He was the captain. And he is being let go to Chelsea even with our clause? It is ridiculous.
    Are we definitely not getting him? Or is it just a rumour?

    I think that we need him really, as both Flamini, Rosicky and Arteta are getting old, and will probably leave soon
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    (Original post by C.Almasy)
    For 25m it is a no brainer. Cesc is miles ahead of Santi. I am actually livid. From a purely emotional perspective as a fan, it shows a TOTAL lack of pride. I mean, COME ON! He was the captain. And he is being let go to Chelsea even with our clause? It is ridiculous.
    I actually feel sorry for Wenger here. It must have been a painful decision to turn down Cesc if he has done so. It must hurt Wenger to have one of his best talents he's invested some much time and effort into possibly playing for a punk like Mourinho
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    (Original post by sevchenko)
    I actually feel sorry for Wenger here. It must have been a painful decision to turn down Cesc if he has done so. It must hurt Wenger to have one of his best talents he's invested some much time and effort into possibly playing for a punk like Mourinho
    We better be getting some good signings.
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    I don't think all hope is lost yet over fabregas, no one knows exactly what the clause says. It might be that barca have to accept an offer (which they are still to do) before we even get a say. Has wenger or anyone at arsenal said they don't want him back? If not the info Could have been circulated to make chelsea send a formal bid, but that's just me bieng optimistic

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    (Original post by Adil96m)
    I don't think all hope is lost yet over fabregas, no one knows exactly what the clause says. It might be that barca have to accept an offer (which they are still to do) before we even get a say. Has wenger or anyone at arsenal said they don't want him back? If not the info Could have been circulated to make chelsea send a formal bid, but that's just me bieng optimistic

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    Yes, we've openly said we're not interested.
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    (Original post by jamesandwhat)
    imo the main priorities this window (apart from replacing those leaving) are a striker, a left winger and a defensive mid.

    i'd say left wing is the most important, as cazorla or podolski just don't have the pace we need with giroud up front - we need players running in behind. Chamberlain and walcott on either wing would be great but one or both are injured most of the time. if we buy a world class winger then i'd actually be content (not happy) with giroud staying as our first choice striker (and buying a back-up).

    for defensive midfield, i think we could try out vermaelen there. he's too talented to be a squad player, and he knows this which is why he might be leaving. he's still our captain, he's an excellent tackler and is good on the ball as well. it may not work out in practice but its an idea, not sure if anyone has mentioned it already here. if we did do this then clearly we would need to buy a new third choice centre back. if not we definitely need to buy a dm.

    These are our priorities, not buying a new playmaker when we already have more than enough. People said we didn't need ozil last year, so we definitely don't need fabregas now. ramsey will continue to improve, and people seem to have forgotten wilshere's quality - i'm sure he'll be fighting for ramsey's place in the team next season.
    Ewwwwww Vermaelen in DM is a no no.

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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Yes, we've openly said we're not interested.
    source? I can't find it.
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    (Original post by Basiji)
    source? I can't find it.
    Try a few pages back otherwise I'll post/find it in a bit
 
 
 
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