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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    You failed to register the entire sentence:

    When people vote their decision is overwhelmingly decided by how they were raised to vote and/or what their values are.
    Point taken, although that is still very unlikely.

    You also failed to register that someone being raised to vote for the Lib Dems may interpret their recent corruption as contrary to how they were raised to vote and may seek out an alternative which more closely aligns with what they were raised to support.
    Who would ever be raised to vote for the Lib Dems?
    Britain is traditionally a two-party system, so people will either be raised to vote Labour or Conservative. That's why the rural areas mainly vote Tory. No-one is raised Lib Dem.

    Note this will be different in Scotland and Wales because of nationalist parties e.g. SNP and Plaid Cymru.

    Also, that argument does not work for TSR since there is no Liberal Democrat party. There is the Liberals and the Nat Libs. PetrosAC was quite clear on the fact that the Liberals is not the Lib Dems.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    I don't mean to be rude, but the Nat Lib manifesto looks like it has just been quickly thrown together at the last minute. If a neutral looks at the GE manifestos, there is a higher chance that they will vote for a manifesto which looks like it has carefully been thought through.
    I think theirs is worse than the Greens' last time round, which is saying something.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    really? It seems a lot of your ideas require a state.
    I prefer the Swiss model of direct democracy.
    Also I would say tgat I'm liberal until a persons rights harm another or society as a whole at which point the individual has to be stopped with the full force of the law.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    I think theirs is worse than the Greens' last time round, which is saying something as Aph openly admitted to having written it whilst on the train.
    Ummmmm, I haven't been on a train since I was like 7...
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Ummmmm, I haven't been on a train since I was like 7...
    what how

    unless you're 8, in which case that makes sense
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'm an anarcho-communist according to PC. I also support a lot of their ideas, at least last time I checked.
    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    really? It seems a lot of your ideas require a state.
    Yeah, in fairness some of my ideas align with the ancomms, but I'd never call myself one. I'd be more likely to call myself a Left comm or council comm, since it's more like me. LCs are knobs and impossible to debate with though.
    I find myself wandering around the Left comm, council comm, Trotskyist, DemSoc area. It's a bit confusing for me since I'm divided between the beauty of fundamentalism and the reality of reformism.
    I try not to define myself.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Ummmmm, I haven't been on a train since I was like 7...
    Then I apologise and completely retract that, I've clearly made up that piece of information and saved it into my memory somehow
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Point taken, although that is still very unlikely.



    Who would ever be raised to vote for the Lib Dems?
    Britain is traditionally a two-party system, so people will either be raised to vote Labour or Conservative. That's why the rural areas mainly vote Tory. No-one is raised Lib Dem.

    Note this will be different in Scotland and Wales because of nationalist parties e.g. SNP and Plaid Cymru.

    Also, that argument does not work for TSR since there is no Liberal Democrat party. There is the Liberals and the Nat Libs. PetrosAC was quite clear on the fact that the Liberals is not the Lib Dems.
    I disagree with you there. They're few and far between but they do exist. My immediate local area (i.e, the town of Cranbrook) has voted mainly Liberal or Lib Dem since anyone can remember and there are quite a few people here who vote Lib Dem because that's how they were raised. They also exist in places like the Orkney and Shetland Islands and some parts of very rural Wales.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    what how

    unless you're 8, in which case that makes sense
    (Original post by Aph)
    Ummmmm, I haven't been on a train since I was like 7...
    Whaaaaaaat?
    Where the hell do you live, Durness?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Who would ever be raised to vote for the Lib Dems?
    Britain is traditionally a two-party system, so people will either be raised to vote Labour or Conservative. That's why the rural areas mainly vote Tory. No-one is raised Lib Dem.
    This is my constituency.

    I think this points to a decent number of people here having been raised Lib Dem. Complete with people seeking an alternative due to "corruption" – in this case a certain Mr Lembit Öpik and one of the Cheeky Girls.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    really? It seems a lot of your ideas require a state.
    "According to PC", Aph is pretty Stalinist on a few things.

    (Not necessarily a bad thing, it's just where a lot of the policies seem to stem from)
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    what how

    unless you're 8, in which case that makes sense
    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Then I apologise and completely retract that, I've clearly made up that piece of information and saved it into my memory somehow
    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Whaaaaaaat?
    Where the hell do you live, Durness?
    Is it that hard to belive? I also haven't been on a bus for the last 5/6 years, probably more but I can't be sure.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    I disagree with you there. They're few and far between but they do exist. My immediate local area (i.e, the town of Cranbrook) has voted mainly Liberal or Lib Dem since anyone can remember and there are quite a few people here who vote Lib Dem because that's how they were raised. They also exist in places like the Orkney and Shetland Islands and some parts of very rural Wales.
    Alright, so there are a few hundred in random rural areas of the UK. (I remember a Liberal Party gathering in the 39 Steps movie, actually)
    What are the odds they are going to be on TSR?
    Next to zero.
    Ergo his argument is very weak.

    Interesting info though
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Point taken, although that is still very unlikely.



    Who would ever be raised to vote for the Lib Dems?
    Britain is traditionally a two-party system, so people will either be raised to vote Labour or Conservative. That's why the rural areas mainly vote Tory. No-one is raised Lib Dem.

    Note this will be different in Scotland and Wales because of nationalist parties e.g. SNP and Plaid Cymru.

    Also, that argument does not work for TSR since there is no Liberal Democrat party. There is the Liberals and the Nat Libs. PetrosAC was quite clear on the fact that the Liberals is not the Lib Dems.
    I was explaining the idea in RL terms.

    Some people are raised to vote Lib Dems directly and indirectly eg parental disgust of main parties. Others are accidentally raised by being a fusion of Lab/Tory parents such as David Laws
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'm an anarcho-communist according to PC. I also support a lot of their ideas, at least last time I checked.
    It seems that many members share your ideology. Quite frankly, it scares me, but they're not my views.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Alright, so there are a few hundred in random rural areas of the UK. (I remember a Liberal Party gathering in the 39 Steps movie, actually)
    What are the odds they are going to be on TSR?
    Next to zero.
    Ergo his argument is very weak.

    Interesting info though
    The odds aren't looking great for any grammar-school-attending revolutionary socialists living in decidedly un-left-wing parts of rural Kent being on TSR either, but hey, here I am
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    RayApparently am I allowed to create an opinion (not exit!) poll?
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    (Original post by a noble chance)
    I was explaining the idea in RL terms.

    Some people are raised to vote Lib Dems directly and indirectly eg parental disgust of main parties. Others are accidentally raised by being a fusion of Lab/Tory parents such as David Laws
    I was raised in a Labour household, and although I can sympathise with some Labour policies, IRL I'm more inclined to vote for a centrist alternative.
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    Aren't they banned?
    No idea, that's why I asked

    I could do a totally non-related poll in the UK politics section?
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    The odds aren't looking great for any grammar-school-attending revolutionary socialists living in decidedly un-left-wing parts of rural Kent being on TSR either, but hey, here I am
    True dat!
 
 
 
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