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    Would having an undergraduate masters (MPhys) be beneficial when applying for a PGCE or wouldnt it matter?
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    (Original post by xjay1234)
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    Would having an undergraduate masters (MPhys) be beneficial when applying for a PGCE or wouldnt it matter?
    If you're applying for a science subject like the 'MPhys' suggests then it probably wouldn't make much difference because they want people that badly anyway.
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    I can finally go back to preparation and writing up my dissertation - the uni has been great once I emailed them the latest bursary guidance.

    Are the subject handbooks in English and Maths (maybe science too) worth buying? They are on the recommended list and relate to the curriculum; whether I should buy them for future teaching references, or they are used so sparingly that the library copies would be sufficient?
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    By the way, when do we get our QTS confirmed? My uni told us that we were awarded QTS last month.But ,I looked at the NCTL and found out that they still haven't got mine confirmed yet :s
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    (Original post by hana&feather)
    I can finally go back to preparation and writing up my dissertation - the uni has been great once I emailed them the latest bursary guidance.

    Are the subject handbooks in English and Maths hand (maybe since too) worth buying? They are on the recommended list and relate to the curriculum; whether I should buy them for future teaching references, or they are used so sparingly that the library copies would be sufficient?
    Personally I'd wait until you start and see what the library has and what you actually need. I found that if its a subject you're unsure about a book with explanations of terms etc can be helpful. But I never referred to any of my books that much, apart from for essays where subject handbooks are not the most useful.

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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    Would having an undergraduate masters (MPhys) be beneficial when applying for a PGCE or wouldnt it matter?
    It will help, and make you a better candidate given all other things being equal (subject knowledge is really important, particularly for physics/maths). But honestly, even the best universities aren't very competitive for physics, maths or physics and maths PGCEs. Where it will help you, though, is in negotiating a wage after the PGCE, where a masters in physics would generally allow you to move one point up the payscale, which I think is about £2500/year.

    If you're worried about getting on to the PGCE, provided you have a little bit of experience, can show an interest in the job and aren't unsafe to work with children you won't have a problem getting onto the course.
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    (Original post by tory88)
    It will help, and make you a better candidate given all other things being equal (subject knowledge is really important, particularly for physics/maths). But honestly, even the best universities aren't very competitive for physics, maths or physics and maths PGCEs. Where it will help you, though, is in negotiating a wage after the PGCE, where a masters in physics would generally allow you to move one point up the payscale, which I think is about £2500/year.

    If you're worried about getting on to the PGCE, provided you have a little bit of experience, can show an interest in the job and aren't unsafe to work with children you won't have a problem getting onto the course.
    I was looking at Cambridge, I'll have an MPhys from Durham at 2:2/2:1 borderline with 3-4 weeks experience in 10 different schools (so far this amount want me) and 3 volunteer projects with school children. The experience side I'll be okay, im just worried if I get a 2:2 it might hinder me, even if I have a masters from a good uni.
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    I was looking at Cambridge, I'll have an MPhys from Durham at 2:2/2:1 borderline with 3-4 weeks experience in 10 different schools (so far this amount want me) and 3 volunteer projects with school children. The experience side I'll be okay, im just worried if I get a 2:2 it might hinder me, even if I have a masters from a good uni.
    I've trained at the IoE with people who've got 2.2s, and I would imagine it's similar for Cambridge (my offer also only required a 2.2 from Warwick). Your experience sounds good - try to be teaching a few lessons if they'll let you, it gives you something to talk about at interview.

    As long as you have a degree, classification is far less important than you may think - what matters more is that you have the skills to use to become a great teacher: solid subject knowledge, explanation skills and determination (off the top of my head).
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    I was looking at Cambridge, I'll have an MPhys from Durham at 2:2/2:1 borderline with 3-4 weeks experience in 10 different schools (so far this amount want me) and 3 volunteer projects with school children. The experience side I'll be okay, im just worried if I get a 2:2 it might hinder me, even if I have a masters from a good uni.
    If you're a physicist, the vice-chancellor will probably roll a red carpet down the road and drive in his Rolls Royce to come and pick you up for the interview. I wouldn't worry.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
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    What is the pass mark for a PGCE written assignment?
    Depends on the university - there is a difference between a PCE and a PGCE. At my university it was 40 for a level six pass and 50 for a level 7 pass. If you achieved 40 out of 60 masters credits (2 out of 3 essays at 50+) then you receive a PGCE. If you achieved 40-49 in 2 or more essays, you would receive a PCE.
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    (Original post by tory88)
    I've trained at the IoE with people who've got 2.2s, and I would imagine it's similar for Cambridge (my offer also only required a 2.2 from Warwick). Your experience sounds good - try to be teaching a few lessons if they'll let you, it gives you something to talk about at interview.

    As long as you have a degree, classification is far less important than you may think - what matters more is that you have the skills to use to become a great teacher: solid subject knowledge, explanation skills and determination (off the top of my head).
    Thats really reassuring to hear, asking to teach a lesson, or portion is an amazing idea thanks! Im trying to get primary school experience (although im applying for secondary, broad experience would be good) but no primary schools are replying
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    Depends on the university - there is a difference between a PCE and a PGCE. At my university it was 40 for a level six pass and 50 for a level 7 pass. If you achieved 40 out of 60 masters credits (2 out of 3 essays at 50+) then you receive a PGCE. If you achieved 40-49 in 2 or more essays, you would receive a PCE.
    Yeah, I was assuming they meant on a standard PGCE at masters level since most are. It really annoys me how much disparity there is between courses in this sense because if I don't pass my next two essays I only get QTS, not even PCE even though I am like 4 marks off 50. Yet if I went to another university in the area I'd get something at least. It's really frustrating. And you only need 40 credits for a PGCE, we need 60. Surely that type of thing should be universal. Gaaaaah. I have no trust in my university whatsoever to guide me through my resubmissions so I'm getting ready for the worst
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    If you're a physicist, the vice-chancellor will probably roll a red carpet down the road and drive in his Rolls Royce to come and pick you up for the interview. I wouldn't worry.
    I loved reading this!
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    (Original post by Juichiro)
    I loved reading this!
    It's what an admissions tutor from Brunel once said to me in the context of their Paper Science course being about to close as the result of nobody ever applying for it.
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    Hello lovely teachers

    I will be starting my PGCE in September and would like to ask a few questions, if that's ok?

    1, Which type of folders/files have you found most useful?
    2, Has anyone found a planner/diary that they have found to be super special
    3, Have you any other tips for stationary? Is there anything you have found invaluable throughout the year?

    Oooh one more question: have any of you needed to refer back to any of your undergrad work?

    I have skim read a lot of pages in this thread and I don't 'think' I have seen anything that has put me off My main concern is being able to get home at a reasonable hour because I have 4 children, 2 of them will be in after-school club. They are booked in until 6pm but I am really hoping I can collect them early each day.

    I'm starting to get excited about September (and a teeny bit nervous).
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Yeah, I was assuming they meant on a standard PGCE at masters level since most are. It really annoys me how much disparity there is between courses in this sense because if I don't pass my next two essays I only get QTS, not even PCE even though I am like 4 marks off 50. Yet if I went to another university in the area I'd get something at least. It's really frustrating. And you only need 40 credits for a PGCE, we need 60. Surely that type of thing should be universal. Gaaaaah. I have no trust in my university whatsoever to guide me through my resubmissions so I'm getting ready for the worst
    I really don't understand why it isn't standardised it's really unfair that there's such a disparity between providers.
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    (Original post by redmel1621)
    Hello lovely teachers

    I will be starting my PGCE in September and would like to ask a few questions, if that's ok?

    1, Which type of folders/files have you found most useful?
    2, Has anyone found a planner/diary that they have found to be super special
    3, Have you any other tips for stationary? Is there anything you have found invaluable throughout the year?

    Oooh one more question: have any of you needed to refer back to any of your undergrad work?

    I have skim read a lot of pages in this thread and I don't 'think' I have seen anything that has put me off My main concern is being able to get home at a reasonable hour because I have 4 children, 2 of them will be in after-school club. They are booked in until 6pm but I am really hoping I can collect them early each day.

    I'm starting to get excited about September (and a teeny bit nervous).
    A4 level arch files will become your best friend! I filled up about 5 of them over the course of the year :')
    Depending on your school, they may give you a planner - some do, some don't. Both of my placements gave me a planner
    Highlighters, post it notes and those sticky tab things! They've been the three most useful things. I also marked in bright felt tips - it was really easy to see for the pupils and it was also really obvious to my department/parents/slt that I had marked their books.

    I haven't needed to refer back to it as such - because I'm history though, I ended up going through some old essays and picking up quotes to add to my lessons from various sources
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    Thats really reassuring to hear, asking to teach a lesson, or portion is an amazing idea thanks! Im trying to get primary school experience (although im applying for secondary, broad experience would be good) but no primary schools are replying
    Primary can be tough, especially at this time of year. Most courses ask for you to complete primary school experience once accepted onto the PGCE anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much. My advice is to start asking for summer experience around christmas time - I started around March and it took a lot of schools before I was accepted for primary school experience. If you're in the area still, picking the primary school you attended will make it more likely they accept you.

    (Original post by redmel1621)
    Hello lovely teachers

    I will be starting my PGCE in September and would like to ask a few questions, if that's ok?

    1, Which type of folders/files have you found most useful?
    2, Has anyone found a planner/diary that they have found to be super special
    3, Have you any other tips for stationary? Is there anything you have found invaluable throughout the year?

    Oooh one more question: have any of you needed to refer back to any of your undergrad work?

    I have skim read a lot of pages in this thread and I don't 'think' I have seen anything that has put me off My main concern is being able to get home at a reasonable hour because I have 4 children, 2 of them will be in after-school club. They are booked in until 6pm but I am really hoping I can collect them early each day.

    I'm starting to get excited about September (and a teeny bit nervous).
    1. I used a normal A4 folder for each class I taught, so I could stick all the resources (if pupils claimed to not have them) inside and a seating plan on the back so I would always have it in the classroom. This served me well and made everything really easy to organise. I also used 2 A4 Lever Arch files to store my old teaching things - lesson plans, resources etc. - once I'd finished a term, and for the notes/evidence I'd collected on the course. Lots of people do things in all sorts of ways, so it's about finding something that works for you and sticking with it.

    2. I would recommend an A4 planner, as A5 just doesn't have enough space to write down any details at all, particularly is you also want to use it as a markbook (you will). As stated above, some schools issue planners to trainees, and some don't. Once again a lot is personal preference, but I haven't found one I've massively liked to will be watching for responses too.

    3. For me, red pens and whiteboard markers have been a must - I lose so many of them that it's always nice to have a supply in a pocket/bag somewhere. If you're that sort of teacher, stickers/stamps can be a nice touch (it's worked very well for some of my peers). One thing I really wish I had is a planner that displayed the weeks to put on my desk, just so I could make little to-do lists and remember all the non-teaching things I had to do.

    I used some of my undergraduate work to talk to pupils about what it's like to study physics at university, but not really beyond that.

    You shouldn't have to worry about getting out at a suitable time - most teaching work can be done at home provided you're organised.
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    Thats really reassuring to hear, asking to teach a lesson, or portion is an amazing idea thanks! Im trying to get primary school experience (although im applying for secondary, broad experience would be good) but no primary schools are replying
    Nearly all primary schools will have either just finished for the summer or are about to, and will be too busy to respond at the moment. I'm sure something will turn up, but this is not the best time to be asking, to be honest.
 
 
 
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