The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Invading a defenseless country and slaughtering thousands of civilians can hardly be described as a 'fair fight'.

But they didn't predominantly immigrate from Europe. Less than half came from Europe. Many came from America and huge numbers came from North Africa and the Middle East (in fact, many were forced to by oppression, as in the case of Libya with its pogroms). Why are you highlighting the European ones as if they are somehow worse?

Anyway you said that the "Zionists of Israel should leave and go back to Europe...", ergo you support an ethnic cleansing since that would entail millions of Jews, who are mostly Zionists, to leave their home country.

More, and worse, injustice does not cure past injustice.

Actaully that's not the pattern. The Pro Israel lobby always paints the picture of Israel 'responding'.

How about Israel blockading the citizens of Gaza and stopping basic supplies getting in?

Israel is as much the aggressor as anyone.
Israel slaughtering thousands of innocent civilians is not protecting its people.

I'm not support ethnic cleansing of all jews, I didn't say kill them off which is what Israel is trying to do with the Palestinians. My argument is many suffer at the hand of Israel not just Palestinians. Immigrant Jews from Africa also suffer at the hands of the Israeli government. Surely with you defending Israel you're also supporting the ethnic cleansing of millions of Palestinians.

I'd stick a blockade around Palestine if I was in charge of Israel to try and stop the rockets coming in that are targeting Israeli civilians.

Israel's main priority is to defend it's population. Not Palestinian civilians who the Palestinian authorities are more than happy to knowingly out into the firing line to cause casualties.

http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits-it-fired-rockets-from-civilian-areas/380149/

http://m.ndtv.com/world-news/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and-fires-rockets-641680

Israel.

Because Palestinians are Jordanians. I do not condone all of Israel's actions though, I think their economic sanctions are taking it too far. Palestine is far too radicalized to just "let it go", but I think an immediate two-state solution and a gradual release of sanctions should be in place, along with some constitutional guarantees, such as a ban on a Palestinian military and a mandatory check by Israel on all goods coming into Palestine.

And around 70% of modern Israeli's are Europeans. Does that give them the right to displace people?

Why should Israel check all the imported goods, it's not like it doesn't do that anyway. Palestine doesn't have a military. Whilst Israel's "defence" force is one of the best equipped and funded in the world.

What gives someone the right to displace people?



Yeah I don't know where you've been when the tunnels were being built and Hamas were shooting rockets and killing Israeli soldiers once a month for the past 30 years but it wasn't on Earth.

Israel should check all imported goods precisely for that reason. The only goods that should enter Palestine are capital and consumer goods. Not materiel.

It's an odd sort of apartheid where all 1.1 million Arab Israelis have the vote, and where in surveys the majority of them prefer to remain living under an Israeli government than the Palestinian Authority.

Collectively punishing the entire population of Gaza which has an average age of 17 for the actions of a few extremists is absurd.

How about Israel forcibly displacing Palestinians from their homes in the West Bank where they don't have a right of appeal?

If you think bombing Palestinian hospitals and schools in which little children are hiding for their lies is justifiable then there really is no hope.

Wow, I never knew they are reproducing like rabbits. You've actually made me more anti-Palestine, it seems they are all young and indoctrinated & radicalized at a severely premature age.




At no point have I supported that.



If you think leaving Palestinian hospitals and schools alone even though they are shooting and storing rockets is justifiable and Israel should simply take it then there really is no hope.

So you're anti Palestinian because it has a lot of young defencelss people?

You think they should bomb schools and hospitals which have little children hiding in? Most of these schools were PROVEN not to have rockets in.

Yet you support the murder of young children? Okay then.

I'm not anti-Palestinian, I am swaying to being anti-Palestinian, because they multiply at rates higher than Uganda which is unsustainable and I don't see why Israel should be responsible or be held accountable for this and any future diseases/famines/problems/riots as it seems a domestic cultural problem.

But yes, I am becoming more anti-Palestinian thanks to this website as I am beginning to notice that the majority of anti-Israelis and pro-Palestinians tend to be whiny little liberals, not a movement I want to be associated with.



3 schools were proven to contain rockets out of 7 bombed. No, I do not condone these and I believe shelling of schools and/or shelters should be prevented until the very last resorts, but the fact that 3 schools were found to contain weapons is enough to raise questions for me about the validity of the UN and the Gaza cause.



Err .. no.

So you're anti Palestinian because it has a lot of young defencelss people?
You think they should bomb schools and hospitals which have little children hiding in? Most of these schools were PROVEN not to have rockets in.

Yet you support the murder of young children? Okay then.

I suggest avoiding using conventional morality to reason with him. I've found several times that he lacks the compassion or empathy to care.

You do know rockets barely kill any civilians? Israel has an amazing Iron DOme defence system which gets pretty much everything. The only Israelis killed are soldiers who invade Gaza.

Oh yes and liberals are awful aren't they?

You literally just supported bombing schools and hospitals which had little children hiding in them. In other words you supported the murder of children.

So? Each rocket costs around 100 000 dollars. The upkeep of Iron Dome's existence goes into the hundreds of millions. Why should Israel suffer economically as a result? Would you justify Hamas shelling Israel every single day just because of the Iron Dome? (if the answer is yes, dont bother replying)

With 735 rockets hit down during that period that's a cost of 73 500 000. Funny though, because 33% of Gaza'an rockets launched by Hamas have landed in Gaza. Which is why I heavily doubt the validity of statistics.

The cost of the July/August operation was 2 500 000 billion, which is more than 1% of Israel's GDP. It also resulted in a GDP contraction of -0.4%. That's a terrible economic consequence. If this carried on for a year, Israel wouldn't be able to survive.



Yes they are terrible human beings. The world would be much better without them.



Pull another straw.