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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    Whats the best way to start conversation when going around observing a class trying to get involved? I started with the usually, 'do you need help?' but they often say no. I found asking them to describe what their doing, asking slightly more advanced questions or asking 'tell me something I wont know' works better, anyone got tips?
    I'd go with making a statement rather than asking a question. 'That's an interesting way of doing that. I like the way this works.' Then you can lead onto the 'Whose idea was it?' 'How can you carry it on?' 'What would happen if you did this?' kind of question. Breaks the ice a bit.
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    How common is it for an NQT to have an A-Level class?
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    (Original post by Red Lightning)
    Is it common for an NQT to have an A-Level class?
    If it's the only way the timetable works, you're the only other qualified teacher or the head of department wants to let you have a go, yes.
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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    If it's the only way the timetable works, you're the only other qualified teacher or the head of department wants to let you have a go, yes.
    Ah I see, that explains a lot.Thank you as always!!
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    (Original post by Red Lightning)
    How common is it for an NQT to have an A-Level class?
    I've got a year 12 and a year 13 class!
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    (Original post by Red Lightning)
    How common is it for an NQT to have an A-Level class?
    I'm responsible for KS4 and KS5 computing as an NQT. I've been told it's fairly common to get some A level classes but with somebody higher up overseeing everything.
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    (Original post by Red Lightning)
    How common is it for an NQT to have an A-Level class?
    I'm only teaching A-Level. It's fairly standard I guess

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    (Original post by Carnationlilyrose)
    Hey!

    Well, it has something to recommend it, since it's standard issue to the trade, as it were. The thing about all the fancy ones is that they over-complicate things. I once succumbed to buying my own when I was on holiday in America and it had all manner of whistles and bells, but I simply didn't have time to bother with them. Maybe I was just too disorganised or whatever, but I got by with the standard one because it's pretty simple.
    That's similar to what I found. I liked the concept of the one I bought this year, but really I only used the markbook and lesson planning bits anyway.

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    How common is it for an NQT to have an A-Level class?
    I think it varies by subject. I'm physics with maths and I don't know anyone without one. Myself I have an IB HL Year 12 Physics Class.
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    One of those things that I've been wondering about is the whole progress measurements over the year and how it's dealt with in meetings.

    I have to say, it's pretty scary. I got to witness first hand recently how over-inflated grades and consequently limited progress within the year basically screws over the existing teacher. It's pretty frightening to think that this sort of thing might not be a rare thing as well.
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    I'm getting really worried because as some of you know I failed two PGCE essays. One of them I have no problem with changing but the other I am struggling with as my main feedback was that I needed more academic sources, but I tried really hard to find more last time and hit a wall. It is on literacy within my subject, but there doesn't seem to be much. So I emailed the two R.E. specialists to ask for some help, neither of them replied. So...I have no idea what to do.

    I would never recommend my uni to anyone. The support has been atrocious and the marking for essays has varied too widely between people and hasn't been in line with the question. And now that I'm actually trying to change it in line with their feedback they won't even respond to emails, so how am I supposed to improve it?

    If I fail this essay again because they didn't give me any help I'm putting in a formal complaint.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I'm getting really worried because as some of you know I failed two PGCE essays. One of them I have no problem with changing but the other I am struggling with as my main feedback was that I needed more academic sources, but I tried really hard to find more last time and hit a wall. It is on literacy within my subject, but there doesn't seem to be much. So I emailed the two R.E. specialists to ask for some help, neither of them replied. So...I have no idea what to do.

    I would never recommend my uni to anyone. The support has been atrocious and the marking for essays has varied too widely between people and hasn't been in line with the question. And now that I'm actually trying to change it in line with their feedback they won't even respond to emails, so how am I supposed to improve it?

    If I fail this essay again because they didn't give me any help I'm putting in a formal complaint.
    That really sucks. It's not appropriate at all to not help the second time around. Where are you looking for sources? Have you tried chasing references from the articles you originally found?
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I'm getting really worried because as some of you know I failed two PGCE essays. One of them I have no problem with changing but the other I am struggling with as my main feedback was that I needed more academic sources, but I tried really hard to find more last time and hit a wall. It is on literacy within my subject, but there doesn't seem to be much. So I emailed the two R.E. specialists to ask for some help, neither of them replied. So...I have no idea what to do.

    I would never recommend my uni to anyone. The support has been atrocious and the marking for essays has varied too widely between people and hasn't been in line with the question. And now that I'm actually trying to change it in line with their feedback they won't even respond to emails, so how am I supposed to improve it?

    If I fail this essay again because they didn't give me any help I'm putting in a formal complaint.
    Have a look for some sources that are on literacy in education generally? I did one of my PGCE essays last year on literacy in History and I had to fill it out with loads of general books on literacy in teaching and education. Or even literacy in humanities subjects.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I'm getting really worried because as some of you know I failed two PGCE essays. One of them I have no problem with changing but the other I am struggling with as my main feedback was that I needed more academic sources, but I tried really hard to find more last time and hit a wall. It is on literacy within my subject, but there doesn't seem to be much. So I emailed the two R.E. specialists to ask for some help, neither of them replied. So...I have no idea what to do.

    I would never recommend my uni to anyone. The support has been atrocious and the marking for essays has varied too widely between people and hasn't been in line with the question. And now that I'm actually trying to change it in line with their feedback they won't even respond to emails, so how am I supposed to improve it?

    If I fail this essay again because they didn't give me any help I'm putting in a formal complaint.
    This sounds horrible; I'm sorry to see you put in this position. My only real advice is that it's fine to use general sources on literacy for your age group, as long as they back up the points you're making. Doing this can even lead into some interesting discussion of how applicable the findings are in your particular subject.
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    Depends on the university - there is a difference between a PCE and a PGCE. At my university it was 40 for a level six pass and 50 for a level 7 pass. If you achieved 40 out of 60 masters credits (2 out of 3 essays at 50+) then you receive a PGCE. If you achieved 40-49 in 2 or more essays, you would receive a PCE.
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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Yeah, I was assuming they meant on a standard PGCE at masters level since most are. It really annoys me how much disparity there is between courses in this sense because if I don't pass my next two essays I only get QTS, not even PCE even though I am like 4 marks off 50. Yet if I went to another university in the area I'd get something at least. It's really frustrating. And you only need 40 credits for a PGCE, we need 60. Surely that type of thing should be universal. Gaaaaah. I have no trust in my university whatsoever to guide me through my resubmissions so I'm getting ready for the worst
    Well, I am going to Roehampton University and it is 50 the pass. and 41-49 as COMPENSATED pass........

    I know other unis the pass is 40%.

    For me, I just care for getting the QTS - without that you can forget teaching, anyway.
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    Well, I am going to Roehampton University and it is 50 the pass. and 41-49 as COMPENSATED pass........

    I know other unis the pass is 40%.

    For me, I just care for getting the QTS - without that you can forget teaching, anyway.
    Well yes, but speaking from experience (I've failed two essays so have spoken to people and done some research) having only QTS and no PGCE is a disadvantage. However, it does depend on your subject. My subject(s) is too competitive for QTS to be enough. If I don't get my PGCE then I will instantly be weeded out in the application process as most will have PGCE. (y)
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    If I have a masters in physics (with astronomy) would it be possible to do a PGCE/HMC teacher training course in mathematics?

    I love Physics as a subject, but pre-GCSE physics is just so dull and over simplified, you sparsely go into any depth and honestly, it doesnt feel like physics.
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    If I have a masters in physics (with astronomy) would it be possible to do a PGCE/HMC teacher training course in mathematics?

    I love Physics as a subject, but pre-GCSE physics is just so dull and over simplified, you sparsely go into any depth and honestly, it doesnt feel like physics.
    It's possible, but you may have to explain why Maths in a more positive way.

    Some providers (incl HMC schools) have a Physics with Maths course why not try for those as well?
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    (Original post by TunaTunnel)
    If I have a masters in physics (with astronomy) would it be possible to do a PGCE/HMC teacher training course in mathematics?

    I love Physics as a subject, but pre-GCSE physics is just so dull and over simplified, you sparsely go into any depth and honestly, it doesnt feel like physics.
    Do you have an A-Level in maths? You may have to do a SKE, but I don't see why you couldn't do maths instead. I've met trainees from stranger backgrounds.

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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    Do you have an A-Level in maths? You may have to do a SKE, but I don't see why you couldn't do maths instead. I've met trainees from stranger backgrounds.

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    Yes I do, whats an SKE?
 
 
 
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