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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    No. We also have nuclear weapons.
    So it's okay for Europe to get glassed with nukes because we've got them to
    brilliant
    vote SotanianOne for nuclear annihilation
    :^)
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    So it's okay for Europe to get glassed with nukes because we've got them to
    brilliant
    vote SotanianOne for nuclear annihilation
    :^)
    Yes, we should immediately embargo The United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and North Korea, because their nuclear weapons pose a threat to Europe. Only Europe is permitted to build and maintain nuclear weapons.
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    >decent nation
    >uses white phosphorus on children
    >broken 66 un resoloutions
    >decent nation
    Because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia where the hands of children are cut off for stealing bread is a much more children-friendly alternative than Israel.
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia where the hands of children are cut off for stealing bread is a much more children-friendly alternative than Israel.
    Why bring Pakistan and Saudi Arabia into a debate about Israel? Absurd logic.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Why bring Pakistan and Saudi Arabia into a debate about Israel? Absurd logic.
    So Desmond's reply about the Earth is more Israel-centric than Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?

    K then...
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    So Desmond's reply about the Earth is more Israel-centric than Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?

    K then...
    Justifying killing children because another country is bad is an appalling logic.
    Leave the debate about Israel and Palestine.
    One of the most frequent 'defenses' of those justifying Israel's actions is to say 'look at all the other countries exploiting human rights too.'
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Yes, we should immediately embargo The United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and North Korea, because their nuclear weapons pose a threat to Europe. Only Europe is permitted to build and maintain nuclear weapons.
    The only people to not sign it are India, Pakistan and Israel. As well as south sudan although i doubt they have the capabilities to launch nuclear weapons at most of the world.

    You embargo Iran on the slight chance that they may want to develop nuclear weapons somewhere along the lines, but it's okay for Israel to brandish and threaten.

    Nice double standards you got there bro
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia where the hands of children are cut off for stealing bread is a much more children-friendly alternative than Israel.
    Israel/Palestine

    not Israel/rest of the world

    Don't change the subject. By all means open another thread entitled "Israel/Saudi-Arabia, Pakistan and Palestine"
    http://www.israellawresourcecenter.o...des/sgil3i.htm
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    The only people to not sign it are India, Pakistan and Israel. As well as south sudan although i doubt they have the capabilities to launch nuclear weapons at most of the world.

    You embargo Iran on the slight chance that they may want to develop nuclear weapons somewhere along the lines, but it's okay for Israel to brandish and threaten.

    Nice double standards you got there bro
    Because Israel is an ally, Iran is not.

    It's called national interest. There's no detriment to the UK with Israel having nuclear weapons.
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Because Israel is an ally, Iran is not.

    It's called national interest. There's no detriment to the UK with Israel having nuclear weapons.
    One can argue the whole existence of Israel is a detriment on the UK. Futhermore we cannot simply be "world protectors" enforcing the law purely for our interests. Also Iran is not an ally, but it's not an enemy either. We are allies with Saudi Arabia ,would you be fine with them obtaining nuclear weapons? I certainly wouldn't. If you actually cared about national interest you'd want the UK to cut ties with Israel because it would open more ties with Arab states which= arab oil moneys. So your argument has little substance like MDMA.
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Because Israel is an ally, Iran is not.

    It's called national interest. There's no detriment to the UK with Israel having nuclear weapons.
    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHA

    FBI Says Israel a Major Player in Industrial Espionagehttp://www.jweekly.com/article/full/7380/fbi-says-israel-a-major-player-in-industrial-espionage/
    If Israel Sold Patriot Secrets...http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/20/op...t-secrets.html
    Israel Accused of Selling U.S. Secrets to Chinahttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-secrets-to-china-1510406.html
    Israel Gave Secret U.S. Tech to Chinahttp://i-hls.com/2013/12/israel-gave-secret-u-s-tech-to-china/
    Israel Secretly Sells American Nuclear Weapons to Chinahttp://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=776
    Lavon Affairhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
    Israeli Spying on U.S. at 'Alarming Level'http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-spying-us-alarming-level-133658376.html
    Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-...ying-us-249757
    'Israel Stole U.S. Uranium to Build Nukes'http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217955.html
    U.S.S. Liberty Incidenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
    U.S. Furious at Israel Equipment Transfer to Chinahttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175404#.UwZ2-Eqdmsc

    If Israel stabs America, by far it's closest ally, in the back multiple times. Do you thin it's valuable ally?
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    (Original post by TheTruthTeller)
    Arab states which= arab oil moneys.
    If he's all for trade as he says he is then he'll understand that
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    (Original post by TheTruthTeller)
    One can argue the whole existence of Israel is a detriment on the UK. Futhermore we cannot simply be "world protectors" enforcing the law purely for our interests.
    Yes we can. And we stopped. To our clear detriment.

    Stopping middle eastern colonialism has been nothing more than a bullet in the foot. Countries in the middle east are not countries, they are family businesses. We sold land and natural resources to corporate royal families.
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHA

    FBI Says Israel a Major Player in Industrial Espionagehttp://www.jweekly.com/article/full/7380/fbi-says-israel-a-major-player-in-industrial-espionage/
    If Israel Sold Patriot Secrets...http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/20/op...t-secrets.html
    Israel Accused of Selling U.S. Secrets to Chinahttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-secrets-to-china-1510406.html
    Israel Gave Secret U.S. Tech to Chinahttp://i-hls.com/2013/12/israel-gave-secret-u-s-tech-to-china/
    Israel Secretly Sells American Nuclear Weapons to Chinahttp://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=776
    Lavon Affairhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
    Israeli Spying on U.S. at 'Alarming Level'http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-spying-us-alarming-level-133658376.html
    Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-...ying-us-249757
    'Israel Stole U.S. Uranium to Build Nukes'http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217955.html
    U.S.S. Liberty Incidenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
    U.S. Furious at Israel Equipment Transfer to Chinahttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175404#.UwZ2-Eqdmsc

    If Israel stabs America, by far it's closest ally, in the back multiple times. Do you thin it's valuable ally?
    As if an "ally" has ever meant you are incredibly close and would never do anything to be better at their own expense.

    Your greatest friend? He/she would probably sell your details to an assassin for a billion.

    The US spies on the UK actively, yet they are our greatest ally. There's no such thing as total trust, let alone in geopolitics.
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    As if an "ally" has ever meant you are incredibly close and would never do anything to be better at their own expense.

    Your greatest friend? He/she would probably sell your details to an assassin for a billion.

    The US spies on the UK actively, yet they are our greatest ally. There's no such thing as total trust, let alone in geopolitics.
    You'll literally justify anything. This is brilliant
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    You'll literally justify anything. This is brilliant
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    You'll literally justify anything. This is brilliant
    Provide a counter argument.

    I struggle to understand how Israel selling tech to China is more dangerous and hostile to the UK than the US spying on us and hosting their nukes here.
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    (Original post by SotonianOne)
    Provide a counter argument.

    I struggle to understand how Israel selling tech to China is more dangerous and hostile to the UK than the US spying on us and hosting their nukes here.
    Israel can't be trusted.
    Stop changing the subject, this is Palestine vs Israel, not Palestine,UK and US vs Israel.
    But in case you're wondering the United states have helped us numerous times in both joint offensives and on our own. They offered us two air craft carriers during the Argies invasion for example.

    Meanwhile Israel,
    They break UN Resolutions
    They answer to no country
    They have nuclear weapons and have stated they will use them if threatened
    They are the very definition of a rogue state
    But ofcourse this okay because they trade a lot and make money right?
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    (Original post by DesmondHarry)
    Israel can't be trusted.
    Stop changing the subject, this is Palestine vs Israel, not Palestine,UK and US vs Israel.
    But in case you're wondering the United states have helped us numerous times in both joint offensives and on our own. They offered us two air craft carriers during the Argies invasion for example.

    Meanwhile Israel,
    They break UN Resolutions
    They answer to no country
    They have nuclear weapons and have stated they will use them if threatened
    They are the very definition of a rogue state
    But ofcourse this okay because they trade a lot and make money right?
    I have no interest in the UN. I fully support the US Republican Party to take the US out of the UN next year.

    "They answer to no country" - We do?

    We have nuclear weapons as well.

    They're not a rogue state at all. If possessing nuclear weapons means you are a rogue state then I would most certainly ask you to leave the UK if you want to insult us this way.
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    So just because you have no interest in the UN, no one else has and Israel doesn't have to answer to them? Brilliant.

    Britain follows America in most of her actions, likewise we also follow the EU if they're sensible.

    Now let's have a look at the definition of a rogue state shall we
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    Israel has broken international law (http://www.israellawresourcecenter.o...ides/sgil3.htm) , and has the intent of destroying other nations. (http://www.timesofisrael.com/chorus-...r-iran-strike/) as well as the sampson option I've already told you about.

    Any problems understanding the above?

    Oh and about our Nuclear weapons, we've signed the Nuclear Non-Profileration treaty and there is no one close by that we don't really squabble with. So we're not an issue.
 
 
 
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