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I did Suvat at GCSE last year

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SUVAT is on the Higher Tier Physics 3 paper.
I didn't do SUVAT... which exam board is this?
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I didn't do SUVAT... which exam board is this?
I did it on OCR Gateway

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SUVAT isn't GCSE F=ma isn't either.

Grade inflation is going to happen anyway. Inflation is a fact of life and everything inflates.
With GCSEs the highest X percentage of candidates are awarded an A* allowing the number of A*s to be controlled by the exam board each year. With O-levels only candidates above 90% would achieve an A* and this boundary would remain the same every every year.
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SUVAT isn't GCSE F=ma isn't either.


Grade inflation is going to happen anyway. Inflation is a fact of life and everything inflates.
Bull**** is N2 and SUVAT not in GCSE physics, even then wasn't the first time I'd seen it in school
And grade inflation isn't possible with O-levels because the irruption getting each grade was fixed, of you got an A you were in the top ~10pc of the year (or A*if it existed in O-levels

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With GCSEs the highest X percentage of candidates are awarded an A* allowing the number of A*s to be controlled by the exam board each year. With O-levels only candidates above 90% would achieve an A* and this boundary would remain the same every every year.
Pretty sure the percentage was fixed in o level and isn't now, trivially not so now

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No I'm from a very good (but state) school. But i was in the dumb classes. I failed the iq test at the start of school (wrote on the answer paper. I panicked cuz I was intimidated by the whole process) and along with my special educational need (ADD) I got stuck in the bottom sets. To fit in I became one of the bad lads (being a geek in the bottom set of a boy's school isn't an option) so I never really studied at all before A levels and only did well in the few subjects which I enjoyed. Fast forward 2 years and with my new actually smart friends I'm working to get AAA at a level in three difficult subjects.

This experience has taught me the importance of socilaisation in performance and why we have to compromise in difficulty in order to get the kids who will more likely to become disillusioned to focus.
How are so many people having difficulty with mechanics then?

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What's wrong with people failing?
Are you one of these namby pamby liberal thinkers who believe that outdoor shouldn't be introduced to the concept of failure until they enter the real world?

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Well, when we have the pretty much established fact that failure correlates with social factors as much as intelligence, giving people the chance to do well isn't a bad thing.

We should have an education system which means that you can get those 5 Cs if you study. Then that level of candidate leaves school and you let meritocracy do its thing at A level and in the work place.
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With GCSEs the highest X percentage of candidates are awarded an A* allowing the number of A*s to be controlled by the exam board each year. With O-levels only candidates above 90% would achieve an A* and this boundary would remain the same every every year.
I was under the impression that 90% was what it was set at anyway? Well at least for A-levels.
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I did it on OCR Gateway

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I think my GCSE's were AQA...
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How are so many people having difficulty with mechanics then?

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Mechanics can be really hard.
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Bull**** is N2 and SUVAT not in GCSE physics, even then wasn't the first time I'd seen it in school
And grade inflation isn't possible with O-levels because the irruption getting each grade was fixed, of you got an A you were in the top ~10pc of the year (or A*if it existed in O-levels

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It wasn't when I did it, I only saw SUVAT for the first time at A-level and the same for N2L

And I thought that how it works now...
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How are so many people having difficulty with mechanics then?

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I dunno anything about maths at a level. Maybe it's because it is difficult. Maybe as a postgrad aiming maths student you find A level maths easy. You're not a typical a level maths student; you're experience shouldn't define the level it's set for most students. Especially considering a level maths is mostly used as mental training for the scientists and to give the arts graduates another skill set.
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Well, when we have the pretty much established fact that failure correlates with social factors as much as intelligence, giving people the chance to do well isn't a bad thing.

We should have an education system which means that you can get those 5 Cs if you study. Then that level of candidate leaves school and you let meritocracy do its thing at A level and in the work place.
The 5Cs is arbitrary and was becoming easier by the year. What the government says counts is rarely what does. Officially now as long as you don't get a U or X you have passed, even though in reality it's still C, even if that C is easy as hell to get

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With GCSEs the highest X percentage of candidates are awarded an A* allowing the number of A*s to be controlled by the exam board each year. With O-levels only candidates above 90% would achieve an A* and this boundary would remain the same every every year.
I did SUVAT in GCSE but i didnt do F=ma
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Pretty sure the percentage was fixed in o level and isn't now, trivially not so now
Yes, this is what I was saying. The news make a big story of more people getting an A* but that is because the exam boards can control A*s with GCSEs when they could not with O-Levels.

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It wasn't when I did it, I only saw SUVAT for the first time at A-level and the same for N2L

And I thought that how it works now...
It was in both Higher Tier, Unit 3 Physics for OCR, AQA and WJEC papers in 2012/3/4.
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Mechanics can be really hard.
What is supposed to be so hard about mechanics?!
Learn a handful of equations and you're practically there at least for M1 or M2

On a more jovial note, I really wish the telegraph would go back to referring to labour add the socialists like they used to

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How are so many people having difficulty with mechanics then?

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Just bc you may find it to be relatively easy, does not mean all others are the same. That'd be like asking why so many people are having difficulty with Chemistry etc, which is just beyond ridiculous. I thought you'd take a bit more time to think about things considering you're from a 'non-thick school.'


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Yes, this is what I was saying. The news make a big story of more people getting an A* but that is because the exam boards can control A*s with GCSEs when they could not with O-Levels.



It was in both Higher Tier, Unit 3 Physics for OCR, AQA and WJEC papers in 2012/3/4.
And as soon as control of the grades shifts to the competing exam boards those grades will go up, and the government doesn't care because our means they can claim that out education system is getting better even though it isn't

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Yes, this is what I was saying. The news make a big story of more people getting an A* but that is because the exam boards can control A*s with GCSEs when they could not with O-Levels.



It was in both Higher Tier, Unit 3 Physics for OCR, AQA and WJEC papers in 2012/3/4.
http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects...P-QP-JUN13.PDF
No it wasn't, I did that paper and SUVAT/N2L want on there.
I did forget we did moments at Zgcse Though.
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Just bc you may find it to be relatively easy, does not mean all others are the same. That'd be like asking why so many people are having difficulty with Chemistry etc, which is just beyond ridiculous. I thought you'd take a bit more time to think about things considering you're from a 'non-thick school.'


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Those studying a subject, particularly at A2, should be fairly competent. Of they found M1 hard drop maths or do S1 (unless the 2 AS for core maths is only if doing double). If the majority are having difficulty at A level there is clearly something wrong, nobody is forcing them to do it.

At GCSE might be another matter since you don't get a choice there, but even then, if the majority are having difficulty that would be somewhat suggestive of the ability of the teaching staff and/or competence of the average student.

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What is supposed to be so hard about mechanics?!
Learn a handful of equations and you're practically there at least for M1 or M2

On a more jovial note, I really wish the telegraph would go back to referring to labour add the socialists like they used to

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M1 is fairly easy but i find M2 hard mostly because of the fact you get a little bit of info in a question then dont know what to do with it.

On that more jovial note i really wish Labour gave them slightly more reason to.
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